Just curious, what were the respective sizes of the varios studio models of the refit enterprise and enterprise A.
Dan
Dan
Was there a studio Enterprise refit model at 1/350 scale?
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There was one studio model, one kit built up for distance shots, the destroyed refit, and a large scale of the upper deflector, engineering, and neck area. At one time I thought there was a version scaled to spacedock, but haven't seen mention of it. :350 isn't Studio Scale.
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Dan
Dan
Actually, Robert Abel's group did plan to utilize a smaller scale Enterprise for the long shots inside V'ger. I believe it was going to be around 20" long (about the size of the AMT kit). It was started, but I don't know if it was finished before Trumbull/Apogee took over. And I could have sworn Apogee said somewhere that they did make one for some of their shots.
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mb1k
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I had heard before that for a few shots in STMP and TWOk that there was a large sized model of the upper primary saucer.
These were for close-up scenes of the Vulcan Shuttle docking, and for the RELIANT fly-over in the opening battle scene of TWOK.
Anyone have proof? Until recently many of us didn't even know of the existence of the large photon-torpedo launcher only model either.
[Edit] Actually, I just remembered where I saw it. It was either the 25th Anniversary VHS tape or a special feature on a DVD where I saw what looked like a 8 to 10 feet primary hull saucer only being pulled around on at dolly. I then think someone on the old CultTVman forum told me that it was used for the above scenes and also redressed as the 1701-A for close-ups in TUC where the primary hull takes a direct hit and gets breeched.
These were for close-up scenes of the Vulcan Shuttle docking, and for the RELIANT fly-over in the opening battle scene of TWOK.
Anyone have proof? Until recently many of us didn't even know of the existence of the large photon-torpedo launcher only model either.
[Edit] Actually, I just remembered where I saw it. It was either the 25th Anniversary VHS tape or a special feature on a DVD where I saw what looked like a 8 to 10 feet primary hull saucer only being pulled around on at dolly. I then think someone on the old CultTVman forum told me that it was used for the above scenes and also redressed as the 1701-A for close-ups in TUC where the primary hull takes a direct hit and gets breeched.
minieffects
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<div class='quotetop'>(MB1K @ Nov 19 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]1361691[/snapback]</div>
I believe they used the 8 foot model for those shots. Dave stewart shot the enterprise model for sttmp and got right on top of it and it still held up.
I dont remember if there was a larger scale saucer section but there was a model of the officers lounge interior for the vulcan shuttle docking shots. Ive seen pictures as I was an apprentice for one of the modelmakers that worked on the enterprise model and built the drydock. The sad news is that they cramed the camera in so far that you really didnt see the model, just windows and seat backs. As far as the oversized hull section for the travel pod docking,this did exsist on sttmp and if you look closely on the directors cut dvd you can see a face in the porthole to the right that is slightly large for the scale. The face is Mark Stetson. He was the miniature supervisor on bladerunner, ghostbusters, 2010 and went on to run his own shop (stetson visual services) for about 6 years. He is now a vfx supervisor, most recently on Superman Returns. I know those models were used at Ilm for st2 and they were modified, repainted etc. The sad part is that the enterprise model was one of the most beautiful models ever built until ILM got a hold of it. They ruined it in my opinion.
models are still an option
minieffects
I believe they used the 8 foot model for those shots. Dave stewart shot the enterprise model for sttmp and got right on top of it and it still held up.
I dont remember if there was a larger scale saucer section but there was a model of the officers lounge interior for the vulcan shuttle docking shots. Ive seen pictures as I was an apprentice for one of the modelmakers that worked on the enterprise model and built the drydock. The sad news is that they cramed the camera in so far that you really didnt see the model, just windows and seat backs. As far as the oversized hull section for the travel pod docking,this did exsist on sttmp and if you look closely on the directors cut dvd you can see a face in the porthole to the right that is slightly large for the scale. The face is Mark Stetson. He was the miniature supervisor on bladerunner, ghostbusters, 2010 and went on to run his own shop (stetson visual services) for about 6 years. He is now a vfx supervisor, most recently on Superman Returns. I know those models were used at Ilm for st2 and they were modified, repainted etc. The sad part is that the enterprise model was one of the most beautiful models ever built until ILM got a hold of it. They ruined it in my opinion.
models are still an option
minieffects
mb1k
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minieffects,
Great information and thanks for sharing. For the record, I neve caught on that the docking ring was considered a large scale model. I just thought it was a set and never keyed on the slightly large for scale head.
I know I saw that "huge" primary saucer on a video/DVD somwhere. I just wish I hadn't donated all my ST VHS tapes to Goodwill now, and I don't have the time to go through all my ST DVD special features to track it down.
More than a few people here would love to learn as much as possible about the Officer's lounge model. If there were only more pictures than the measley screen caps we have.
Great information and thanks for sharing. For the record, I neve caught on that the docking ring was considered a large scale model. I just thought it was a set and never keyed on the slightly large for scale head.
I know I saw that "huge" primary saucer on a video/DVD somwhere. I just wish I hadn't donated all my ST VHS tapes to Goodwill now, and I don't have the time to go through all my ST DVD special features to track it down.
More than a few people here would love to learn as much as possible about the Officer's lounge model. If there were only more pictures than the measley screen caps we have.
minieffects
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<div class='quotetop'>(MB1K @ Nov 19 2006, 11:45 PM) [snapback]1361744[/snapback]</div>
Yea there really isnt much out there. I will contact my old mentor and see if he has anything.
models are still an option
minieffects
Yea there really isnt much out there. I will contact my old mentor and see if he has anything.
models are still an option
minieffects
Rogue Studios
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I saw an ertl refit kit I think Greg Jein built it for one of the films it sold for like $42,000 at the Christies auction LOL. But technically if it was made for a film no matter the size it's studio scale.
mb1k
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Treadwell @ Nov 20 2006, 07:11 PM) [snapback]1362313[/snapback]</div>
You're a lot of help aren't you? :lol
minieffects
That'd be great. For all of us.
Oh, and that footage was in a video that had nothing to do with Star Trek. Boy, that helps narrow it down.
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You're a lot of help aren't you? :lol
minieffects
That'd be great. For all of us.
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PHArchivist
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Treadwell @ Nov 21 2006, 01:11 AM) [snapback]1362313[/snapback]</div>
I've seen it too (and have it somewhere). Sure it wasn't the 25th anniv?
Oh, and that footage was in a video that had nothing to do with Star Trek. Boy, that helps narrow it down.
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I've seen it too (and have it somewhere). Sure it wasn't the 25th anniv?
