Without wanting to derail the conversation, I wholeheartdly agree with your observation, modern Star Trek could learn a lot from Marvel.
WandaVision
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Lightning
Master Member
I guess I'm mostly unclear exactly what his position as head of SWORD gives him authorization to do, and by extension, what he can't do.
Looks like the Pandemic caused things to get cut because they ran out of production time.
'WandaVision': Matt Shakman Opens Up About How the Pandemic Changed the Finale - Murphy's Multiverse -
relevant bit:
"It also seems that the engineer’s tease was 100% intended, but was getting worried when people suddenly expected Reed Richard to show up. A lot was left on the cutting room floor, so it may have originally had a bigger pay-off. They also confess that a lot of CGI edits were a bit awkward, as pointed out by Smith, as they had to finalize those post-lockdown. Monica was even originally going to have a bigger role in the finale, such as her, the kids, Ralph, and Darcy trying to steal the Darkhold from the basement. There we would find out that the bunny Scratchy was a demon. It was all filmed but they couldn’t finish the VFX for it."
I was halfway through listening to this today.
Thanks for posting the article and the segment about the unfinished VFX.
I would say despite the pandemic enforced changes the series was still a success and it made Fridays the highlight of my week for 9 weeks.
I'm very satisfied that Phase 4 has started so strongly.
Thanks for posting the article and the segment about the unfinished VFX.
I would say despite the pandemic enforced changes the series was still a success and it made Fridays the highlight of my week for 9 weeks.
I'm very satisfied that Phase 4 has started so strongly.
CelticRuins
Sr Member
Vishawn is about my favorite thing from the end, I'm not gonna lie.
Gimpdiggity
Master Member
Agnes had a spell put directly on her. She’s also a “real” person...the twins and Vision were not.
I was a tremendous fan of what this show did, acknowledging the warts & all.
That said, this right here is perfect...
That said, this right here is perfect...
Paul Andrew
Master Member
I really hate the way screen rant promos its videos with hideously anime'd eyeballs in real people. Something about it feels like they're mocking whatever they're doing the video about, whether they are or not. I can't confirm because I find it so distasteful that I won't even watch the videos.
I honestly completely agree with you about their thumbnails. I've seen them for years & never watched Pitch Meetings, but after talking about how bad the live-action MULAN was, a student in my class sent me the one for that, & I've been hooked ever since.
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Well. One of my questions answered. Distilled from Bettany's recent Esquire interview:
Wanda took down the Hex to allow the Wesview residents return to their regular lives, it is no longer present and so the twins and one form of the Vision disappeared with it.
As Gimpdiggity said, Agnes along with the residents aren't components of the Hex so she lives on, albeit de-powered and is the only resident to have a dedicated spell put on her to give her a role, for the safety of everyone else.
Correct.
When Agatha offers Wanda the false promise to fix the spell that created the Hex, she reveals that once cast it cant be changed and since Wanda realised what her grief was unintentionally doing to the Westview residents she ended the hex which had to claim the kids and Vision as they were constructs within it.
Agatha now lives amongst the freed Westview residents, the only one playing a role thanks to Wanda's dedicated spell cast after Agatha was depowered.
I'm thinking it's more like a Glamour Spell, which would hide Agatha's true form/identity from all the residents.
harrisonp
Sr Member
Now that I’ve finished the show I do feel like they dragged their feet with how dedicated they were with the different era episodes. If they had done 2 eras per episode, or jumped around as Wanda discovers the limitations of the Hex and how it’s affected by her emotions then they would have had more time for the real plot. I think everyone pretty much knew the TV settings were Wanda’s coping mechanisms so laying it on so hard didn’t really turn that into an earth shattering revelation or anything.
I also personally think we needed an “Agathavision” episode where Wanda sees her life and lives through all the tribulations of witches in that time.
I also personally think we needed an “Agathavision” episode where Wanda sees her life and lives through all the tribulations of witches in that time.
SPWilliams
New Member
Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. I think that both tell stories about grief, but I found Picard to have much, much deeper personal resonance. While both end with the leads saying goodbye to their android loved ones in artificial living rooms, Picard's goodbye felt significantly more real. Data says, "No, I died and I'm not coming back." Vision's goodbye is cut short by the fact that, in his relatively few onscreen appearances, we've already seen him die twice before this and he just put his memories into a near-identical version of himself.
In a universe where Coulson, Loki, Bucky, Gamora and Groot have all had onscreen deaths that, through various explanations, have been undone, I think that the MCU is a fundamentally poor franchise to attempt an accurate portrayal of grief.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
And then Picard died....and came back in HIS android body!
Don't forget his body appeared to be the exact same physical age as
I'm keen to see the behind the scenes episode this week.
I recall the promo clip on Youtube where one of the designers is sat in the art department with an out of focus piece of concept art showing Simon Williams, which would be a character to include in the MCU and tie into Carol's Story in Captain Marvel 2.
I recall the promo clip on Youtube where one of the designers is sat in the art department with an out of focus piece of concept art showing Simon Williams, which would be a character to include in the MCU and tie into Carol's Story in Captain Marvel 2.
