Vader cheek mark (c-scar)

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If however the pics of the master show no remnants, we are still back to square one unfortunately: was the scar filled in or did it never exist.

I would still love to hear from JRX, is he aware of these discussions? He may have helpful info to add.


He knows about this thread and he has infos about it but he is not interested in these discussions anymore. I understand this completly. Why should he have any interest to proove something? He has left the scene mainly because of such bullsh....it.:rolleyes
 
Thanks for the info Darth Niob.

I have no axe to grind and really do just follow these threads out of genuine interest and curiosity. I really would love to know if the scar was there and what it looked like during filming. I really hope we get to know someday.

Still would love to hear from JRX. I understand why he would be tired of the nonsense, I am just sad this could go on indefinitely with no real answer for those who care.
 
There has now been one casualty (although only temporary) due to this thread. Please make sure your comments stay on topic which is the props and not the personalities, or there will be more.
 
Qui, the only guy I ever saw slamming eFX was yourself. Way back in a thread you yourself started about an oversized trooper bucket and eFX's supposed misleading advertisement. You were wrong about eFX then and you're wrong to try to drag them down now by putting your own words in other's mouths. So just let it go man. I've purchased every offering from eFX that fit my collection. You are smoking crack or somthing. Do you own any eFX products Qui?
Are you REALLY trying to make this discussion about the eFX Stormtrooper? Really?

Wow man. We are talking about Vader. Period. Apples and oranges here. The Legend is not anywhere near as idealized as the Trooper and you know it. I really cannot believe you went there with this. Let's go look back at the discussions on the eFX Vader, shall we? Try to keep the personal attacks out of this, alright?

Try to stay on topic. I have said from the beginning that this is one of the BEST Vaders out there. It is. Period. They have brought their A game with this one.
 
Qui, I'm actually trying to assess your motive for your behavior in this prop thread. I'm a huge eFX supporter on this entire forum. As I was an MR supporter and an Icons suppoerter. My record is clear. All you have to do is look at my collection to see my undying support of Bryan and the guys at eFX. All I have to go on about you Qui is based on your own conduct towards eFX. I say stop trying to paint me an eFX hater and I'll do the same for you. Let's stick to the prop discussion. I have no problem staying on topic.........but I will respond when you create un-truths about me.

ALL my friends know I love eFX and they know I love what products they create. Let's just leave it at that where I'm concerned. eFX is not misleading people, that would be gino. I just don't get your part in all this???
 
Here is the long and short of it, Dave. I think the eFX Vader is the best thing to be offered up by them...well, ever. No slams, no hidden agendas. Then I see people slamming the pre-production pieces as inaccurate. Based on...what exactly? Second hand proof. Here is a piece offered up from the Baker molds. Basically, people who love the ANH Vader look (Remember, I am not on that list, ESB all the way) are being offered up a pedigreed piece. It is a piece that is better than just about everything else out there and on par with the DJ and the SL. Nothing else comes close.

Based on the proto pics, people have assumed the worst when even those pics have looked better than any other fan-made offering. Then we have people who are apparently disenfranchised that theirs is no longer top of the heap. People who have altered castings. We have people uttering cries of "Prove it!" because they assume Gino will not back up his statements...again. So, he does. Pretty clear images too. Then it is not enough. "Show us the divot" you say. "Well, it isn't there and here is why" is explained to you, and again...it is not enough.

Dave, nothing you have done since this has come about has shown you love eFX. If anything, people perceive it as you being one more voice trying to tear it down. I am NOT alone in this perception.

Now, since you brought up the Trooper, can you honestly tell me it was anything but idealized? Going back to MR, can you HONESTLY tell me that the Fett helmet was a solid piece? Much like you, I own MR and eFX pieces that suit my needs. Much like you, Vader holds a special place in my Geekdom. I want to see it done CORRECTLY. What we have been offered as fans is a top shelf offering. Nothing they have done helmet wise can touch this. I think they see now that people will accept the dings and dents as readily as they accept an idealized offering.

Now, as to behavior, I am trying to piece yours together as well. So far, all it has been is "Compliment, tear down, ask for this or that, compliment." eFX is not misleading anyone and frankly, people just cannot stomach that Bryan chose Gino to head this up. So, they are attacking, albeit in a subtle way, but still attacking. I am trying to defend a company that I feel is FINALLY doing it right. Quite frankly, I am hoping against hope that they see the sales and interest this offering has generated and offer up MORE screen accurate stuff. (ESB VADER PLEASE!)
 
Qui when I own one will you drop it???

As for the trooper, you were wrong how you approached it. You made them look like they were misleading and that their product was hokey. I'll always admit that the eFX is the very very best licensed Vader helmet ever made...........up to this point in time. :) By comparison, so was their trooper helmet...........best licensed helmet up to that point in time. Deny it.

only thing we disagree on is that the c scar is dimensional. :)
 
The reality is that the castings you have (the TM and SL group) aren't as special as you thought they were and have had modifications done to them (including the addition of a dimensional scar which is not on the original helmet).

I am very sorry, but I have to disagree.

The original TM faceplate has a "C-scar" on the right cheek, and it is in fact dimensional. It features the same shape and is located in the same position than the C-shaped artifact which can bee seen on Vaders right cheek in ANH, especially in the Tantive scenes at the beginning of the movie.

I am more than happy to show my original TM faceplate to any Vader fan who plans to visit Berlin in the future. I'd also like to re-new my offer to send it to the States again for a comparison meeting.

To eFX: thank you for making this possible - I just wished that such a wonderful helmet would have been available 20 years ago ;) - that would have helped me saving a lot of money and energy.
 
Qui when I own one will you drop it???

As for the trooper, you were wrong how you approached it. You made them look like they were misleading and that their product was hokey. I'll always admit that the eFX is the very very best licensed Vader helmet ever made...........up to this point in time. :) By comparison, so was their trooper helmet...........best licensed helmet up to that point in time. Deny it.

only thing we disagree on is that the c scar is dimensional. :)
Do you remember how I approached it? Was it against something about being a replica of what was on the screen?

Edit: Vadermania, didn't you say you did not know that scar was there until Jesper told you?
 
I am more than happy to show my original TM faceplate to any Vader fan who plans to visit Berlin in the future. I'd also like to re-new my offer to send it to the States again for a comparison meeting.

Do you pay the ticket for the plane? If yes, I'm in the list :)
 
Well said Tom. Can you imagine if we could have gotten this eFX helmet when we started in this hobby? Oh and by the way, I have chosen the Limited as the helmet I want from eFX. :)
 
Tom, may I ask why you do not want to share photos of the TM during the restoration process in this thread?
 
Tom, may I ask why you do not want to share photos of the TM during the restoration process in this thread?

I simply do not have photos from that particular step of the restoration, Gino. The only person who might have pics of the right cheek during the restoration is Jesper/JRX.
 
I simply do not have photos from that particular step of the restoration, Gino. The only person who might have pics of the right cheek during the restoration is Jesper/JRX.

Below is s PD screen cap from earlier in the thread showing your personal pics.
There were more on the site that was hosing them but they have since been removed.
Since these are your photos, would you be willing to post the ones that were removed?

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I think I posted those in the priv section on TPD some time ago.

What exactly would be the purpose of this?

Below is s PD screen cap from earlier in the thread showing your personal pics.
There were more on the site that was hosing them but they have since been removed.
Since these are your photos, would you be willing to post the ones that were removed?

propdenpost.png





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