UK bans the import of *anything remotely harmful*...

In terms of doing the mods to create an E11 then yes as you are just adding bits to the sterling and not affecting its deactivatedness in any way.

In fact my E11 I have on display is a deac with all the blastery bits just screwed/glued on.

WTAC had some in the junkyard for less than £200 i think.

SAS

So... can I buy a real de-activated Sterling and modify it?

They're a bit pricey, but it's something to consider.
 
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Criminals are using replicas to terrorise their victims and some are modifying gas blow backs and airsofts to fire real rounds. A properly de-activated real firearm should be totally incapable of being modified to fire.

Lets cut through the bull**** here, and get to the REAL reason that de-activated weapons are allowed. The old coots in the House Of Lords, who brought home deactivated weapons that they took as War trophies aren't ABOUT to pass legislation to give them up.

So, a REAL weapon that no longer works is LEGALLY not dangerous, but a bloody toy is? Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the REAL weapon, still LOOKS like a real weapon, doesn't it?

And I would truly like to SEE an ACTUAL demonstration of a potmetal and plastic airsoft gun fire a real round. It's gas blow back. There isn't even a firing pin! But, of course, we have experts who will tell us that such a thing is possible. Just like we have TONS and TONS of crimes being perpetrated by them.

It's the same thing with the knives and blades laws. Antique bladed WEAPONS won't be seized because the old bastards in power aren't about to give up the weapons they took during colonialism or at war, but UTTERLY USELESS CRAP like Pakistani stainless steel Samurai Swords are dangerous and must be banned.

All I can say is good luck to you guys across the pond. They'll come for your butterknives next.

-D
 
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Lets cut through the bull**** here, and get to the REAL reason that de-activated weapons are allowed. The old coots in the House Of Lords, who brought home deactivated weapons that they took as War trophies aren't ABOUT to pass legislation to give them up.

So, a REAL weapon that no longer works is LEGALLY not dangerous, but a bloody toy is? Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the REAL weapon, still LOOKS like a real weapon, doesn't it?

And I would truly like to SEE an ACTUAL demonstration of a potmetal and plastic airsoft gun fire a real round. It's gas blow back. There isn't even a firing pin! But, of course, we have experts who will tell us that such a thing is possible. Just like we have TONS and TONS of crimes being perpetrated by them.

It's the same thing with the knives and blades laws. Antique bladed WEAPONS won't be seized because the old bastards in power aren't about to give up the weapons they took during colonialism or at war, but UTTERLY USELESS CRAP like Pakistani stainless steel Samurai Swords are dangerous and must be banned.

All I can say is good luck to you guys across the pond. They'll come for your butterknives next.

-D

The reason deactivated weapons and 'old' bladed items are because there is a trade in these items and they are VERY expensive. Compensation to owners of such items, who by the way are not likely to use such items to commit crime, would be huge. The Samurai swords you speak of could be bought cheap by anyone. Have you seen the injuries caused by these 'usless crap'? I have... it's not nice. A similar REAL Samurai sword made in the traditional manner and dating back to the 18th or 19th centuary (or beyond) would be several thousand pounds.

A deactivated weapon has been made so. Some 'replica' weapons CAN / COULD be converted to fire live rounds, as they were made of real gun metal.

Don't get me wrong, I don't aggree with this law, however understanding why there are exemptions takes effort. It is not as simplistic as you suggest. Also, it is not against the law to 'posess' the items you speak of. So there is no question of 'seizing' the 'Third Reich edged weapon collection' just as there is no chance of them 'seizing' your Han Solo blaster or MP5 Airsoft.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I don't aggree with this law, however understanding why there are exemptions takes effort. It is not as simplistic as you suggest. Also, it is not against the law to 'posess' the items you speak of. So there is no question of 'seizing' the 'Third Reich edged weapon collection' just as there is no chance of them 'seizing' your Han Solo blaster or MP5 Airsoft.

Hmmm...
A friend of mine of mine lost his deactivated rifles a few years back just because the police felt like it (they went to his house to get a witness statement, he was cleaning his prized Lanchester at the time), and after hearing from him that you face months of being stonewalled to get absolutely nowhere when you apply for the items' return, I'd say that's not entirely true. And his story predates the recent laws, I think it was the late-90s.
More recently, didn't the UK police confiscate a collector's Star Wars weapon collection? Not sure if I read that on this forum or another now, maybe I should check.
 
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Hmmm...
A friend of mine of mine lost his deactivated rifles a few years back just because the police felt like it (they went to his house to get a witness statement, he was cleaning his prized Lanchester at the time), and after hearing from him that you face months of being stonewalled to get absolutely nowhere when you apply for the items' return, I'd say that's not entirely true. And his story predates the recent laws, I think it was the late-90s.
More recently, didn't the UK police confiscate a collector's Star Wars weapon collection? Not sure if I read that on this forum or another now, maybe I should check.

Well during that time we were going through a different but similar knee jerk reaction. Quite simply if the police suspect the weapons are not deactivated, to the correct standard, they can seize them to have them checked. HOWEVER if everything is OK then they have NO power to keep them. NO offence has been committed (unless he went waveing them round in the street). I simply don't believe the Star Wars weapon incident, sounds like an urbam myth, however the same rules apply, no offence then they (polce) can't keep them. Infact a firearms officer could have attended the address and confirmed they were not real weapons (of any description) and removed the need for them to be taken away in the first place.....
 
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Well during that time we were going through a different but similar knee jerk reaction. Quite simply if the police suspect the weapons are not deactivated, to the correct standard, they can seize them to have them checked. HOWEVER if everything is OK then they have NO power to keep them. NO offence has been committed (unless he went waveing them round in the street). I simply don't believe the Star Wars weapon incident, sounds like an urbam myth, however the same rules apply, no offence then they (polce) can't keep them. Infact a firearms officer could have attended the address and confirmed they were not real weapons (of any description) and removed the need for them to be taken away in the first place.....

I thought so, too! I was angry for him and trying to get him to chase it harder, but they just chose to ignore all correspondence so he assumes they're manhole covers now.
Two possibilities:
1) These are rural coppers who tend to operate under the Wiggum rulebook. According to the Derbyshire Times, the station they operate from failed some sort of official certification for three years running in the early '00s.
2) My friend's weapons weren't deactivated in the proper manner and he had a very lucky escape when someone chose to 'lose' his letters.

Sorry, I can't remember where the blaster tale originated, and I can't find a post mentioning it on my usual haunts. Maybe it was removed?
 
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Have you seen the injuries caused by these 'usless crap'? I have... it's not nice.

Actually, yes I have seen those injuries. Most of them that I've seen are self-inflicted on the folks who buy them and have them break/bend/generally fail. They belong on walls, and the only people who try to use them in real life are drunken rednecks and mall ninjas, and as stated, those folks are more of a danger to themselves than others. Self-correcting problem.

You are far better off attacking someone with a butterknife.
 
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Just to bring this subject up again, I'm thinking of selling my wood/plastic Aliens pulse rifle on ebay, though not sure if this is legal. what do you think?
 
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Just to bring this subject up again, I'm thinking of selling my wood/plastic Aliens pulse rifle on ebay, though not sure if this is legal. what do you think?
I think these days that's a no-no. Best place would be the Junkyard here I'd think. Or perhaps on the Aliens Legacy Board.

Roughneckone
 
Well the bans working real well a bloke down the road got 6 years in jail this week shooting two teenagers in head 34 times and coshing them with a replica BB gun.
I'm sure had he been aware of the change in law this could all of been avoided but alas clearly he didn't realise these weapons had been banned some time ago. :rolleyes
Because obviously had he known he would not have possesed such an item.
 
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Just to bring this subject up again, I'm thinking of selling my wood/plastic Aliens pulse rifle on ebay, though not sure if this is legal. what do you think?

I saw a MR E-11 go through ebay last week, without being pulled.
 
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Not the UK itself, but according to this article on tf.n, Woolworths in Britain are restricting sales of toy lightsabers to folks 18 and older, as "they might be mistaken for guns."

Umm, what?
 
The UK will ban the manufacture and importation of replica firearms (yes, even 'movie props') on 1st October 2007.

Were you aware?

The airsoft fraternity have lobbied and gained an exemption - i.e. they will be able to continue to collect replica firearms.

Can collectors continue to collect? No!

Can collectors still buy from within the UK? No!

From the "Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006" http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2006/60038--e.htm#36





Yes!

See the following URL for a good debate on the issue of banning
http://www.24dash.com/localgovernment/18826.htm

How do you feel about this? I'm personally a tad enraged because, as has been suggested, the Law doesn't target the criminals (which it should be doing) and instead decides to ruin the hobby and enjoyment of countless thousands of perfectly law-abiding citizens... It also doesn't help that there seems to be no clearly defined rules or dates.






Collectors don't carry them... :rolleyes





• What's your viewpoint?
• Will it affect your enjoyment of collecting props?
• Should they be banned and why?
• What can collectors do?
• Why didn't they do anything two years ago?
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This is merely disarming the public arming a gung ho! police force as they are now a political army...protect and serve is not their remit we have armed forces to protect us..We now live in the most spied on country in the world and things will only get worse under the guise of combatting Terrorism.The laws being passed are a travesty if one person in the Uk is allowed a firearm real or not then the law should apply to everyone.If a single citizen is denied that right then all citizens should be denied the political army included.it is a warning for what is to come.We were once proud of living in a free country and boasted the fact worldwide.We are now living in a Police state and no good will become of it.As ex armed forces I am saddened to see the decline into broken Britain.
 
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What about Forbidden Planet selling the QMX Mal pistol. It isn't bright green or purple. So can I import one of Robstyle's?
 
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