Things you're tired of seeing in movies

[blewis17]

It would be quite appreciated to see an immediate effect spell that didn't have to be aimed and couldn't be shield blocked. It is magic. It doesn't need to physically manifest and then travel between point a and b.

But blewis17 is right and it is likely due to screen presentation of large fight scenes, so there isn't the focus on the magic being prepped and then the closeup of the unblockable and invisible effect taking hold. I have the distinct feeling that riceball would agree (always has a good grasp of why for screenplay choices).

I agree, with some enthusiasm, that it begs the question "Who needs Hokey religions and ancient weapons when you have a good blaster at your side."

But then on the other hand: one of several things about the SW sequel trilogy and Rogue One is adding sound effects to The Force in use... the sudden woosh and hard sound stop, so you "know" it is at work. Was never required in the OT or PT as I recall.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Magic in movies like Harry Potter and Doctor Strange devolves into just shooting energy beams out of their hands. They seem to ignore all of their magic spells and become generic superheroes instead of magicians. Multiverse of Madness did try to incorporate some new twists, but there's still too little creativity in the "magic" seen in these types of battles onscreen.

“Magic” in Marvel movies comes from the swirling of the hands in circles like you are rolling around an invisible basketball in your hands.

True magicians know that magic comes from the heart and mind and not from the hands.

 

[Bloop]

Thought of another: unrealistic wounds in movies and TV.

Whenever people get injured, like in a fight, they often get "pretty" wounds, especially women. That is to say, people get punched or cut in the face, but the wounds are very superficial, and not usually in places that detract much from their looks. They don't experience any swelling or bruising as the scenes go on, only having small cuts that don't bleed much. Often, their wounds are gone with little or no effect shown over a small passage of time.

Same thing with when a group attacks one person, whaling away, kicking the individual when they're down. Usually, the guy gets up, maybe acts a little sore for a while, but has no meaningful damage.

I understand why it's usually done this way, but it creates an unrealistic idea that human bodies can take way more abuse than it actually can.

 

[Bloop]

As a follow up, I've always wondered why superheroes that have incredible strength but no described "healing factor" (like Wolverine's) are able to trade blows with other superpowered beings and not but crushed to a pulp intlstantly. Being physically strong doesn't mean your tissue and bones can't get damaged.

 

[Strikerkc]

As a follow up, I've always wondered why superheroes that have incredible strength but no described "healing factor" (like Wolverine's) are able to trade blows with other superpowered beings and not but crushed to a pulp intlstantly. Being physically strong doesn't mean your tissue and bones can't get damaged.

The general rule of thumb is that the ability to be that strong means if your muscle fibers, tendons, and bone structure are inherently strong enough to survive using your own strength, then they are strong enough and durable enough to take a beating from similar strength.

I don't remember which one, but there was an anime or manga at some point that had a character with super strength, but not super durability.
The first time the character threw a punch he shattered his whole arm, split every muscle in the arm apart, and broke half his rib cage on that side because his own super strength tore him apart.

 

[Riceball]

The general rule of thumb is that the ability to be that strong means if your muscle fibers, tendons, and bone structure are inherently strong enough to survive using your own strength, then they are strong enough and durable enough to take a beating from similar strength.

I don't remember which one, but there was an anime or manga at some point that had a character with super strength, but not super durability.
The first time the character threw a punch he shattered his whole arm, split every muscle in the arm apart, and broke half his rib cage on that side because his own super strength tore him apart.

Jessica Jones is kind of like that. She has super strength but not the invulnerability that usually comes with it. So she ends up being a glass cannon, she can dish it out with some of the stronger characters in the MCU but she can't take the hits like they can and in that regard, she's not much stronger than any other woman her age, size, and general fitness level.

 

[Strikerkc]

I've always felt like that's because, while she's very strong, she's "defenders strong", not "avengers strong". Meaning that she's "Defenders durable" to go along with it. She can take way more of a beating from regular people than any normal person could, but she's also not built to get hit by a mac truck, because she can't quite HIT like a mac truck.

But it means she responds to getting his with a mac truck, the way a normal person responds to getting hit by a honda civic. It's very very bad, potentially survivable, depending on a lot of factors.

Doesn't Jones also have some faster healing? Not "by bullet wounds have healed" kind of stuff, but more "I should be in this cast for 3 months. But i'll be healed up in 1 month. but I'm taking the cast off after a week and just hating life."

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

Whenever there's a kid main character one (or both) of their parents is dead. There are ways to tell good stories about kids without killing off their parents.

 

[Riceball]

Whenever there's a kid main character one or both of their parents is dead. There are ways to tell good stories about kids without killing off their parents.

Tell that to Disney. Disney animated movies and shows are full of either orphans or kids with only one parent. Or, in the case of Huey, Louie, and Dewey parents that are just unexplainedly MIA.

 

[Treadwell]

The "any one of us could be an alien/robot (or controlled by them)" trope.

Invaders from Mars
It Conquered the World
The Invaders
The Thing (1982)
War of the Worlds (TV series)
Battlestar Galactica reboot
(and a gazillion others)

ENOUGH. I'm so sick of it.

And I don't find the paranoid feeling it induces entertaining.

 

[pengbuzz]

The "seems like an ordinary guy but is actually a retired super secret spy/ operative/ hitman/ mercenary/ soldier/ cop/ special forces member/ superhero/ etc."

How about for once we just have an ordinary man who is just ordinary, who rises to the challenge and finds a way to beat the bad guy?

 

[greenmachines]

The "seems like an ordinary guy but is actually a retired super secret spy/ operative/ hitman/ mercenary/ soldier/ cop/ special forces member/ superhero/ etc."

How about for once we just have an ordinary man who is just ordinary, who rises to the challenge and finds a way to beat the bad guy?

So this eliminates every segall film ever made.

 

[pengbuzz]

So this eliminates every segall film ever made.

Yup.

 

[AJK001]

The "seems like an ordinary guy but is actually a retired super secret spy/ operative/ hitman/ mercenary/ soldier/ cop/ special forces member/ superhero/ etc."

How about for once we just have an ordinary man who is just ordinary, who rises to the challenge and finds a way to beat the bad guy?

Even though he was a cop I think we got that with the original Die Hard movie. The sequels did got off the rails a bit but I still liked.them.

 

[The Goon]

So this eliminates every segall film ever made.

Yes please. This is LONG overdue.

 

[genZOD]

What is the one thing you are sick of seeing in movies?

For me, it's the slow motion fight scenes, especially if it also involves the high wire

Two dudes making deep gashes in the palms of their hands to become blood brothers. Related, any character slashing the palm of their hand to give blood/get something their blood.

EDIT: I just noticed that this conversation extends for over 300 pages. I apologize if I’m repeating someone.

 

[Cephus]

So this eliminates every segall film ever made.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[jkno]

So this eliminates every segall film ever made.

 

[Riceball]

Two dudes making deep gashes in the palms of their hands to become blood brothers. Related, any character slashing the palm of their hand to give blood/get something their blood.

EDIT: I just noticed that this conversation extends for over 300 pages. I apologize if I’m repeating someone.

Yeah, that's something that I brought up I don't know how many pages ago. But it's all; right, it's still annoying as hell when they do that. A part of a bonding ritual I can kind of understand, but I really hate it when they do it just because they need some blood. I'm always like, why can't they simply prick a finger to get a few drops of blood>

What's even worse is, when they slice their palms and the actors don't even so much as wince when doing it. Unless they've done it so often that they've completely killed most of the nerve endings in the middle of their palms, I can't imagine slicing open your palm not hurting and causing someone to at least wince when doing it.

 

[genZOD]

Yeah, that's something that I brought up I don't know how many pages ago. But it's all; right, it's still annoying as hell when they do that. A part of a bonding ritual I can kind of understand, but I really hate it when they do it just because they need some blood. I'm always like, why can't they simply prick a finger to get a few drops of blood>

What's even worse is, when they slice their palms and the actors don't even so much as wince when doing it. Unless they've done it so often that they've completely killed most of the nerve endings in the middle of their palms, I can't imagine slicing open your palm not hurting and causing someone to at least wince when doing it.

I still have a small scar from the time a paint scraper (a safety razor in a flimsy plastic handle) broke and sliced through two inches of the heel of my left thumb. My hand was useless for days and ached for months. I was in college at the time and the cut would reopen constantly… in class, at a cafeteria, on a date… We had this on-campus medical center that kept sealing it with superglue and butterfly bandages.