THEWRAPOFCONS bad person to deal with

<div class='quotetop'>(apollo @ Jun 8 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1258502[/snapback]</div>
Is it me or do threads about TWOC pop up about every 6 months?
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no its not you and yes they do :)
 
Funny, I had the exact opposite problem...from a JY thread posted a few months ago, I ordered a Large X-Men jacket from WoC, and what I received was an XL...with stains & fabric pulls on the upper chest. Plus the snap was set backwards.

WoC did refund my money and I sent the jacket back, and then I later repaid him when a jacket in better condition was sent as a replacement, although I would've rather had your Large. LOL

<div class='quotetop'>(trekkieb47 @ Jun 8 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]1258561[/snapback]</div>
I also had a dealing with TWOC a few months back. It involved me getting the wrong size X-Jacket (I told him XL I got a L) he was selling, and after looking at the quality of it decided to send it back for a refund. A lot of back and forth in PMs over weeks, just to get a simple refund.

Anyways the paypal I sent money to originally had a different name (Cliff) than the paypal he sent the refund to me from (Max).


Berry
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<div class='quotetop'>(Jon8712 @ Jun 8 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]1258688[/snapback]</div>
Funny, I had the exact opposite problem...from a JY thread posted a few months ago, I ordered a Large X-Men jacket from WoC, and what I received was an XL...with stains & fabric pulls on the upper chest. Plus the snap was set backwards.

WoC did refund my money and I sent the jacket back, and then I later repaid him when a jacket in better condition was sent as a replacement, although I would've rather had your Large. LOL
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No you probably would not have wanted the Large, it also had stains (from bleach I'm guessing) and the patch was on the wrong sleeve, he did send an extra patch so I could put it on there myself, but the quality was not what I expected at all. I think the snaps were honky on mine too.

My problem with him was that he said he's shipped it at a certain date, kept delaying getting me a tracking number, and actually shipped it 3 weeks later. I thought it was odd that he listed my name (Eric B.) twice during his shipping updates. Unless your initials are Eric B. too like he claimed when we were going back and forth in PM's for a couple months (which I saved).

Berry
 
I've asked WrapofCons to cease his sales in the Junkyard until he can resolve any outstanding transactions and all problems with RPF members.
 
He's been selling a lot on The League Of Heroes forum lately, so he's probably backed up. I had some issues with him on some resin parts a while back, but we resolved it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>(trekkieb47 @ Jun 8 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1258715[/snapback]</div>
Unless your initials are Eric B. too like he claimed when we were going back and forth in PM's for a couple months (which I saved).

Berry
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Nope, mine aren't EB. I wasn't that impressed with the quality either, but I didn't want to back out on the deal. To be fair, he did give me 4 raw casts of X collar pins with the second jacket.

Art
 
<div class='quotetop'>(Jon8712 @ Jun 9 2006, 08:38 AM) [snapback]1258949[/snapback]</div>
Nope, mine aren't EB. I wasn't that impressed with the quality either, but I didn't want to back out on the deal. To be fair, he did give me 4 raw casts of X collar pins with the second jacket.

Art
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Then as I previously thought he was just making another excuse. And also being fair he offered me other props to trade since I wasn't happy with the jacket, but it was nothing I was interested in. I'm just glad I got my refund.

Berry
 
i purchased an ambassador kosh costume from him a few months ago....an item that was already in hand and would "ship in two days"...
after something like a month, i contacted him and he said it was held up cause it wouldnt fit in his car but would go out "in a few days" ...
thats when the communication stopped...wouldnt return email, or PM....
after a few more WEEKS of waiting i filed a paypal claim...magically, two days after i filed my complaint, it was shipped.....
after i got it, and opened it, it horrified me.
it was damaged (not from shipping) cracking, falling apart, and overall POORLY constructed.....i requested a refund and was denied...(he claimed he told me of the damage...which he DIDNT).so now im stuck with a $350 P.O.S that i have to try and salvage to make it look decent....which is gonna cost a lot of money....'
i'll NEVER deal with TWoC again....and i wouldnt reccomend him if someone payed me to.
if you have outstanding orders, that were "gonna ship" and havent....i'd suggest filing a complaint.
 
Sorry to hear about your experiences UFO, I remember that selling thread. I should've made a thread like this once I got my refund... maybe it would've helped others after me make a better decision.

Berry
 
Well I don't know about anybody else but I feel that at the very least TOC should NEVER be allowed to sell anything in the Junkyard ever again.

Time after time I see threads on his customer service or rather lack there of.
 
Any replies Max? Last reply was on June 2nd.

On May 30th, you posted the following on this thread: http://www.replicaprops.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=638

"As I have said in one of my post I dont do this as a buisness, but for fun, and this takes a backseat to work. for the last year I have worked 12 hour days 7 days a week for allstate I had some time between storms at the first of the year wich I used to get majority of the bugs out of molds. I have been very vocal about the progress and hve tried to keep everyone updated. I am moving forward with these and they will go out. I have asked for a list of people owed and have heard from 3 people all of which will recieve the box they ordered. I am not at home at the moment and can not work on anything I have there which is why it is taking so long, I travell from state to state doing contents and structure claims. when I am not in the field I am i a hotel doing paperwork or looking up items on my computer, If I have freetime I help a buddy I have here work on some of his props. I will be relesed from this storm in about a week and will be back hme it was my intenton to shipp these orders out then, I should have been out of here over a week ago."

It's been more than a week since that was posted, and over a year since we paid. When should we expect our boxes?
 
Well,
Max has taken about $350 of mine and I never got anything...it's been about a year and a half now, but he calls me periodically to give me minor updates....I shall not judge quite yet.
Brad
 
I got totally hosed a few yrs ago from THEWRAPOFCONS. He screwed me really bad on a "big ticket" trade deal & sent a bunch of junk in a box instead of the said items. When I voiced this a few yrs ago, it just fell to the wayside. I would stay clear of him.

-Zoid
 
I also had a rade with him and it took forever for him to keep his end of the trade, when I got what I traded for it was busted and not due to shipping. I repaired the damage but will never deal with him again.
 
i have sent 3 pm's with no response i am awaiting a jedi belt and robe which i paid for ages ago so if you read this can you let me know the tracking details as it should have arrived by now ? cheers
 
i just got a response to an email i sent Max says he will get the stuff shipped out as he doesnt think they have left yet so fingers crossed :)
 
<div class='quotetop'>(teecrooz @ Jun 12 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]1260772[/snapback]</div>
Any replies Max? Last reply was on June 2nd.

On May 30th, you posted the following on this thread: http://www.replicaprops.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=638

"As I have said in one of my post I dont do this as a buisness, but for fun, and this takes a backseat to work. for the last year I have worked 12 hour days 7 days a week for allstate I had some time between storms at the first of the year wich I used to get majority of the bugs out of molds. I have been very vocal about the progress and hve tried to keep everyone updated. I am moving forward with these and they will go out. I have asked for a list of people owed and have heard from 3 people all of which will recieve the box they ordered. I am not at home at the moment and can not work on anything I have there which is why it is taking so long, I travell from state to state doing contents and structure claims. when I am not in the field I am i a hotel doing paperwork or looking up items on my computer, If I have freetime I help a buddy I have here work on some of his props. I will be relesed from this storm in about a week and will be back hme it was my intenton to shipp these orders out then, I should have been out of here over a week ago."

It's been more than a week since that was posted, and over a year since we paid. When should we expect our boxes?
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That post there is a big flashing warning sign.

Anybody who has to ask their customers to contact them because they don't know who they've taken money with is suspect. If your affairs are so complex and convoluted that you can't remember the people who've paid you, you shouldn't be selling anything. Period.

Bruce
 
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