There's no way anyone can make this lightsaber...

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by Kal-L, Jan 1, 2006.

  1. Kal-L

    Kal-L New Member

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    My friends all know I love vintage sci-fi weapons and such, and so a buddy of mine dug up this picture of a really cool art-deco type lightsaber.

    I absolutely LOVE it, but I feel that turning it into reality would be a near impossibility.

    Right?


    What do you guys think?


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    -Dave
     
  2. MarkG

    MarkG Well-Known Member

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    Looks nice.

    I would think that it could be made. There's plenty of 'other' sabres out there that are far more complex than that IMHO.

    What can't be done on a lathe or via resin nowdays isn't worth worrying about.
     
  3. ob1al

    ob1al Sr Member

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    I'm no expert, but I reckon that would be totally doable as a custom job.

    Nice design.
     
  4. Darth_Pain

    Darth_Pain Well-Known Member

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    So, who's saber is it? It looks like it could've been one of Mara Jades or lieas.

    Either way it's nice and I'm sure it can be made.
     
  5. Gigatron

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    It looks a lot like one of the ones that was being considered for the "official" RPF saber a fw years ago. Either that or one of the other saber contests that were held. I'm almost sure it was designed by one of us a while back.

    -Fred
     
  6. RedTwoX

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    The clamp is going to be the tricky part. All the rest of will be fairly easy turns for anyone with a metal lathe and a little experience. The clamp might be done with a replica graflex clamp and dremel tool. It will take some work, but I think this saber is totally doable.

    If you don't have a metal lathe, or don't know someone who does, then you are in for a tough go of it. Trying to make that emiter out of found parts is not impossible, but tough enough that it might not be worth the effort.

    I have not personally done any work with Random Sabers (yet), but they do custom machining of saber hilts and they come recommended by several RPF members. You might send the design to them and see if they can do it and get a price quote.

    Random Sabers
     
  7. Darth Lars

    Darth Lars Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    If I'm not mistaken, that is Darth Saber's design. He was going to have it made, but I don't know if it ever was.
     
  8. Sluis Van Shipyards

    Sluis Van Shipyards Master Member

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    Go to a couple hardware stores, piece of cake.
     
  9. Darth Detroit

    Darth Detroit Sr Member

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    Thats a nice clean design. :thumbsup
     
  10. Darth Mawr

    Darth Mawr Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Looks like a fancy die grinder to me. Clean, art deco design. I like it. And yeah, it could be a hardware saber.
     
  11. Kris

    Kris Sr Member

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    That looks great. Slick saber.
     
  12. Kal-L

    Kal-L New Member

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    Man, do you really think someone here made this design?

    Figures...it's a killer.


    Sadly, I don't have access to a lathe, so maybe I can give that Random Saber thing a go....

    I'm just glad to hear it's do-able. It's too cool to let go.

    :)
     
  13. Jedi Lawja

    Jedi Lawja Well-Known Member

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    The clamp doesn't seem that hard to me. All you'd need is a section of pipe just a snit larger than the handle. If one were making this from sinkpipe, all that they would have to do is take a section of the wider end off of a sink-pipe with a connector neck, dremel out the curved shape and slip it over your main hilt pipe. :) The activator box would have to be fabricated and added.

    The emitter fins look like pully wheels. Too bad they're oddly numbered.

    Jay
     
  14. amish

    amish Sr Member

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    Ryan at randomsabers.com is great guy. Definitely check him out.
     
  15. _Lee_

    _Lee_ Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Most of the main body of the saber would be relatively easy to do on a lathe,but the end towards the emitter would be more difficult and may require a specialist tool.I work in engineering and make items that have that sort of groove profile and keeping it to a nice finish on a lathe could be very difficult :) CNC would be the way to go.

    Lee
     
  16. lesternessman

    lesternessman Well-Known Member

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    that can be made. contact random sabers and have them whip it up for you.
     
  17. defleshjedi

    defleshjedi New Member

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    easily acheivable........... if any measurements are in mind

    over all on a scale of 1-10 (10 more difficult) 5.5 IMHO due to the the emitter
     
  18. DuneMuadDib

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    Only problem with them is the LONG waiting list ;)

    That and my e-mails never get returned. They do good work though.

    If you're up for waiting 6 months to get the saber made go for it.
     
  19. Prop Runner

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    Being as I love all things art-deco, I decided that this would be my first "virtual prop" of 2006 (hey, it rained all day... :p ):

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    Spring-action lever in the open and closed positions:

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    and finally, the exploded view:

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    As the images demonstrate, I designed the saber to be manufacturable. Assuming the brass spacers and radial fins are not painted, they and the rings would have to be stacked. Also, in order to align the lanyard ring insert with the activation lever, I used two 4.5" long 1/4-20 socket cap screws instead of the traditional 3/8" threaded rod. I then stack the front elements and secure them to the "clamp body" using a 6.5" long 3/8-16 socket cap screw. All the parts would either be finished in a high polish or plated, for that true art-deco look. :)

    Who's ever design this is, I really enjoyed interpreting the 2D drawing and piecing the 3D assembly together. I make no claims to and reserve no rights to the original design or the manner in which I interpreted it for fabrication and assembly. If anybody would like copies of the 3D files in IGES or SAT file format, please let me know. I don't plan on generating 2D blueprints for any of the parts, although that can be done once the 3D files are imported into your CAD software.

    Hope you enjoyed my little exercise, and thanks to Whacky for hosting. :D

    - Gabe
     
  20. RedTwoX

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    "Nice work" doesn't quite seem to say it Prop Runner ;) How about, "Impressive... Most impressive".

    Any lingering doubts that this saber is doable should be sufficiently blown out of the water at this point.
     
  21. Jedi Lawja

    Jedi Lawja Well-Known Member

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    "WOW". That just blows me away. I feel as if I could almost reach in to the display and grab it. :)

    Jay
     
  22. Kal-L

    Kal-L New Member

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    Holy jump to bald headed jesus palomino.

    THAT is astounding.

    PR, you have stunned me into non-speech.






    Whoah.
     
  23. allosaur176

    allosaur176 Sr Member

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    ehhh, looks like its been done with Crayola crayons, I'm Dissapointed...









    Just Kidding :p ... Thats awesome work. I love the reflections on it.... :eek
     
  24. Prop Runner

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    Well, I can't take credit for the reflections - it's the default reflective scene that comes with Autodesk Inventor. :p What would really impress ME is if someone could make out the make, model, and year of the car in the reflection... :D

    Thanks for the kind words, guys - now if someone would actually PAY me to do this kinda stuff. Oh, wait - they do... :lol

    So... whose saber design is this? Come on, don't be shy. I'm not into most fan-saber concepts, but this one really lit my fire. :)

    - Gabe
     
  25. ob1al

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    Prop Runner, that is pure brilliance.

    I really love this saber design. I've never considered owning a 'custom' saber but this could be the exception - it's one great looking piece of kit. :thumbsup
     
  26. Noeland

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    Nice saber desing made possible.

    Dang. This is why I love this place. It's like magic.. :love :eek
     
  27. MegaPrime33

    MegaPrime33 Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That is definitely one slick looking lightsaber that needs to be made. Definitely contact Ryan at Random Sabers. I'm sure he'll be able to make it for you, as long as it's not a copywritten design. Be warned though, I have an order with him right now and they were at a 14 week turnover time for new projects. It's possible it might be higher now.
     
  28. Sluis Van Shipyards

    Sluis Van Shipyards Master Member

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    This can be done easily as a hardware saber. Don't waste money having someone machine it.
     
  29. forcefx

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    OMG..
    Prop Runner
    what program did you do that in,the silver looks GREAT,reflection and everything..
     
  30. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    PropRunner, Great Work..

    I'll send you the specs for my saber. :D

    FB
     
  31. Prop Runner

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    Scroll up, bro - I posted the name... :) It's Autodesk Inventor, a middle/high-end engineering 3D parametric CAD program that runs about $3,500 for the basic module bundle. I also use Pro/Engineer and Solidworks, but there are a dozen other leading competitors, each with a strength in a particular field, since most were developed for custom applications. With Inventor, for instance, you can choose from a pallet of dozens of colors, textures, and metallic, wood, plastic, organic, pattern, and other finishes - even smoked glass. You can also manipulate the opacity and transparency of a solid, the directness or diffused nature of the ambient light source; you can add additional light sources or redefine the default source and change any surface color or texture cosmetically so the part's engineering properties don't change, only the look. You can scale up or down the grain and direction of a texture, and also upload your own custom textures or download them from online libraries and other Internet resources. You can also wrap or project text, photos, and graphic files onto any part geometry. Nice self-hijack, Gabe, lol. Anyway, the silver you refer to, for instance, is called "Black Chrome" in Inventor. On a couple of shots you see the foregrip and midsection cylinder (I call it the "thorax" ;) ) in a slightly paler and less reflective metal: that's "Nickel (Bright)." The yellow parts were assigned "Metal-Brass," the torsion spring in "Gunmetal (Antique/Polished)," and the two 4.5" screws are in "Rubber (Black)"because I wanted somethig non-reflective.

    Thanks again for the appreciative comments, peeps - I love how this kind of software can bring to life preliminary designs and make them look almost as real as how they'd leave the factory or we'd see them in a movie. :) And the newer versions include built-in bad-* tutorials that make it easy for any person to become proficient. It just helps to have an engineering degree and industry experience when you're designing a real-work product. :D

    - Gabe

    [EDIT] Sluis Van Shipyards: Jason, could you please humor me and tell me what I should be on the lookout for at my Home Depot, ACE, True Value, or OSH? I'd love to spare myself expensive machining costs, as I don't have any of my own tools or machining capabilities... So if a hardware saber could approach even 75% of the original design without spending 100 times more on new tools than on the found items, I'd be very interested. Thanks. :)
     
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  32. Crimsonnaire

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    Amazing CAD, PR. The latter views of your work just shocked me with their realism.

    This is an interesting saber design. It's got that classical look that is moderately displayed by the Obi ANH, but much more refined. It looks like something that could be in Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow.

    I wonder if this design would count in the annual lightsaber contest.
     
  33. Kal-L

    Kal-L New Member

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    Let's hope the person who designed it will step forward, then. :)

    As for me, I'd love to build it, and PR's incredible renderings certainly make that task easier...

    Wow.
     
  34. amish

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    Gabe,

    Astounding... As for the car, I am going with a Jaguar and the runner up being a Saab.

    hmmmmm
     
  35. thedap

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    the only thing I would do different compared to your cad breakdown of the saber, would be make the emitter from individual layers to make finishing and polishing alot easier.

    And I think the shadows from the separate parting lines would make it look more complex and form functional. maybe even a thin steel or aluminum shim (washer) between the pieces for a sharp contrasting color.

    and maybe drop the two bolt assembly to a single full length bolt design and just make sure the pieces are timed when tightening the bolt, since the end loop and activator are the only parts that need timing
     
  36. Prop Runner

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    Appreciate the constructive feedback, dap. :)

    Regarding your emitter comments, maybe I misunderstood, but if you look at my exploded view of the assembly, the emitter IS made up of stacked edged brass discs. In the cutaway views, however, they do look like one piece because the software doesn't show the edge lines. Perhaps that's what you meant?

    The loop and activator alignment can indeed be eyeballed using a single centered screw, or a simple fixture could be made to stack all the parts in their correct orientation (assuming this was ever mass produced :lol ).

    - Gabe
     
  37. Sporak

    Sporak Sr Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    Prop Runner, you're 3d version is wonderful...it really could be built...
    I'll bet theres a salt shaker or canister of some kind that would make a good main tube...
    Looks great, that's always been a favorite design...
    That is in fact Pat's (Darth Saber) design.

    He had a couple different versions...and yes, it was for the official RPF saber... based on an old Buck Rogers ray gun toy...
     
  38. Rabittooth

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    If it ever was to be done in a small run, I'd be interested.

    :)

    -Rabittooth
     
  39. Gigatron

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    I think it should be re-submitted as the official RPF saber. Put a nice little enamel RPF badge on the same plane as the activator lever, midway between the activator and the base of the emitter.

    -Fred
     
  40. russrep

    russrep Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hi guys looking at it that would be ok to machine. May be a bit tricky with the clamp part but the rest OK to do.. Just drop me a line if you want it done... :)
    Russ
     
  41. Prop Runner

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    Russ,

    I could e-mail you the 3D IGES files of all the parts if that'll help you. If you need them laid out in plan views, I could do that if you can't. Let me know.

    - Gabe
     
  42. OldKen

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    98 black mazda miata?

    thought it to be a boxter, but the taillights (assuming im even looking at what i think is the rear) look just like the last body style miata.

    what do i win gabe? :p

    great 3D work as always. :D
     
  43. Prop Runner

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    LOL. Thanks, Ken - sorry, no prize this time because I don't have the answer myself... The reflection only shows up well on a convex surface. I tried flat and concave, but the scene goes out of focus. Here's the best I could capture it, and keep in mind everything is distorted by the curved surface:

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    It does kinda look Miata-ish, but I have no way to confirm - hopefully this view will help ID some of the car's details better. :p

    - Gabe
     

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