Deep Dive: Han ANH Droid Caller (Kobold vs. Linhof)

Theres some noticeable and subtle differences between them. Also the black one is smooth to a step down.

Looks like your black one has a top that's of a third variety! Still has a curve, though slightly less pronounced than the Han variety, but with a step (though smaller than the step of the silver Kobold/other black Kobolds). From what I'm seeing in the reference though, I do still think the Han has the full curve, no-step top. It's most apparent in this B&W pre-pro photo that Jedifather posted in another thread:



The black seems to be 1/4 20 but the silver is 3/16 on the bottom

Wow, really? I've always heard that the silver Kobolds had the smaller 1/4"-20 thread while the black Kobolds have the larger 3/8"-16 thread. You're sure the silver Kobold has a larger hole than the Kobold?

Also the black is a krinkle finish but worn smoothish. I look at that reference pic and i don't see smooth i see worn smoothish. I wouldn't say its proof that they painted it.

Agree to disagree, I suppose. I agree that it's pretty ambiguous in the Parts of Star Wars photo posted directly in this thread, but it looks like regular old paint to me in the B&W photo. Though you're certainly correct that it's not definitive proof!

The size bulb socket definitely seems standard and I've come across many of those types of bulbs in my selling gear over the years but never that variety. I'd lay money on the brass ring being a protector of sorts. Maybe they were proprietary to Kobold...

Not quite sure what you mean by a "protector". I agree that it's likely designed to protect the glass bulb, but I don't think the bulb would work without this piece as the electronic connection itself is part of that same brass piece. If these bulbs weren't once available to purchase on their own, then how were they to be replaced? Perhaps proprietary, yes, but still what I'd consider "part of the bulb".
 
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there you go, Markus has a silver Kobold with a smooth transition. :) those flashes have lots and lots of small variations.

edit: or the bottom part was switched with a linhof, who knows...
 
Here are mine:

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Lingering Questions with Big Implications:

1) Is there a version of the Silver Kobold that has a smooth transition at the top?
2) Is there a Linhof that doesn't have a cold shoe mount on the bottom, with just a proper 1/4"-20 or 3/8"-16 hole instead?
3) Does a Linhof smooth-transitioned top fit on a Kobold bottom? More specifically, a silver Kobold bottom?

3) Who's got the GOOD REFERENCE?

1) This one is answered: yes probably
3) Yes, I swapped the bottom here:

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Roy
 
Yes mine is definitely a variation. Especially now that odiwan has shown us his we can see many variations. And i do agree that it is a smooth no step top on tbe original prop.

Also back to the bulb assembly. The brass one like yours that screws out is the correct one. Odiwan has at least 2 100% correct and accurate flashes with smooth top and brass bulb assembly as you can see in his pics and one of them is silver which brings me to the paint. I still think i see krinkle on the original prop but with there being an identical silver flash, paint most definitely is a possibility!
 
Actually reminds me that DEC had a replica out there a few years back - I never saw one, though. Were any of the parts interchangeable with originals?
 
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Actually reminds me that DEC had a replica out there a few years back - I never saw one, though. Were any of the parts interchangeable with originals?

Not sure if his was interchangeable with real parts (I don't think it was) but this definitely isn't a DEC replica.
 
Parks did a replica a long time ago. I don’t remember if he sold them by themselves, but they were definitely in a 3-pack with a graflex flash and MPP flash replica.
 
We’re currently traveling around New Zealand and often pop into antique/junk stores searching for buried treasure. After substantial rummaging in 2 separate stores I did indeed find treasure…

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I paid $20NZD ($14usd) for each. I know right!

The only thing I can really contribute here is to confirm the textured grip on the Kolblt is definitely a paint finish. As you can see, mine is chipping off…

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Here are the 2 flashes that I've got ... one with the brand name Kobold and one without :

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and for those looking to acquire a vintage Kobold for an accurate Luke's ESB D-ring clip, always check the flash with the reflector dish removed, because there's a variant in the clamp-screws :

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Ever since prices went bazinga on these Kobold flashguns online, I stopped collecting them ... so as we can see, best to score them in the wild ... congratulations tmax

Chaïm
 
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The silver single swoop shoulder is accurate for the severed hand saber too. Sort of, either they lathed off the knurling or some exist unknurled
 
I don’t have much to add, but I stumbled upon this gem today at a local antique store here in Australia. Really nice condition, No step, and at a steal of $20. It’s really trippy looking at a receipt that reads Vintage Kobold. I’ve never found much of note at any of the nearby antique places, but I feel like I lucked out today.

Funny thing is I just ordered myself an ESB shirt and Jacket yesterday. It was meant to be
 

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