The Walking Dead Season 4

I agree with you on some of your points Annanake. But your posts come off as abrasive, fussy and cranky. So it's hard to back "that guy" up. Until l read these posts. l had never heard of anyone getting all bent about magazine v clip terminology. It reminds me of those people who correct spelling and grammar on internet posts. You have to ignore that crap or ya just end up digging yourself into a hole.

I agree with the cranky and even abrasive at times but I was railing against fussy damn it. and anything that came of as fussy was supposed to be sarcastic.

I tried just to post yep but it was disallowed for not being long enough . now come on that is funny I don't care who you are.
 
Maybe they'll find a Hyundai factory.

I just realized why Rick and Carl walked away from all those cars sitting outside the gate: No sponsorship dollars!
 
So he takes what he considers to be his only remaining option: kill the hostage he knows is most likely to cause Rick's group to open fire on is people and force them to fight. His family is already off the table, so he settles for his revenge. Lilly comes to him as he finishes butchering Hershel to confirm his choice and pound it home for the audience.

I agree with everything you said, just quoted a small segment. I figured that Rick was getting through to him and no one would have been surprised if he killed Michonne so he went for Hershel to get a bigger reaction. I still say the writers missed the boat when after the Governor says "Not after Woodbury." that Rick didn't say "Ok, let's talk about Woodbury." Then tell his people who he really is and what he did. The Gov. mentioned Andrea, and Rick didn't correct him and say "No you killed Andrea." That makes sense.
 
I would think the zombie as a shield wouldn't work either except a story a Vietnam vet and family friend told me about a standoff with two enemy combatants behind some kind of foliage. they are exchanging fire and a couple of our boys get wounded so they back off . there getting pissed you know they cant go back like mission failed we ran into two guys in a field hiding behind a rock so we gave up. finally hours later they rotate men around and some guy with (some sort of hunting style rifle I don't think he even remembered .) get up to the front and they hit 'em again everybody blasting away . then back off and wait for the expected reply. nothing a while later nothing . eventually they get the nerve to creep up and they find both men dead shot multiple times. and instead of a rock or some kind of structure they see the guy's were hiding behind a friggin bush nothing else . but that 5 or 6 feet of jungle bush kept out at least a hundred rounds from there m16's and he didn't have an agenda he wasn't bitchin it was just something that happened to him . maybe he is a lying ******* I don't know .

I took from the governor saying "not after Andrea" that he (in his mixed up head) blamed rick and the prison crew for her death because, hell, he had to kill her, she betrayed him for rick and the others . he was also falling in love with her in his possessive way. and if she did not know where her former group was then he believed even though she found out what a ******* he was she would have stayed .
 
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I agree with everything you said, just quoted a small segment. I figured that Rick was getting through to him and no one would have been surprised if he killed Michonne so he went for Hershel to get a bigger reaction. I still say the writers missed the boat when after the Governor says "Not after Woodbury." that Rick didn't say "Ok, let's talk about Woodbury." Then tell his people who he really is and what he did. The Gov. mentioned Andrea, and Rick didn't correct him and say "No you killed Andrea." That makes sense.

I also think this is part of why the Gov started the conflict off when he did, before Rick could reveal what sort of person he was
 
I also think this is part of why the Gov started the conflict off when he did, before Rick could reveal what sort of person he was

Probably true. Also, Rick may only see a group of people led by the Governor with a tank, a crapload of guns, and holding hostages who want them gone, period. Pointing out that their leader is kind of nuts is a valid tactic only to us viewers.
 
This is the direction I've been leaning, but I'm still far from certain. Also this little bit of knowledge would support the claim: that little girl is creepier than hell.

I have some ideas as to where her character might fit in with some of the comicbook- The twins?

I was wondering the same. If so, I wonder if that gets resolved the same way as the comic... that character already had their "disturbingly practical solution" scene a while back...
 
So I'm watching Talking Dead now... Which replays Herschel's death... The look on his face is so Obi-Wan before Vader cuts him down... I hadn't thought of it till now.

I think the Governor cut down Herschel because he was in front of him at the moment Rick started trying to appeal to the Governors new group, and because Herschel was also trying to appeal. It wasn't premeditated as to whom he'd kill; it just worked out that way.

I'm not a hundred percent convinced the governor is dead... Seems cut and dry, but they left the actual death off screen... Could talking dead be misleading us? A bullet in that location would be death... But a single sword blade could miss all the vital organs. Just throwing it out there. I'm 90% sure though...
 
The thing that you have to keep in mind with The Walking Dead is that wounds that would normally be survivable here and now may not be so in TWD because they no longer have the sort of medical care they used to. They're lucky if they have someone with medical training around but with a severe lack of medicine and medical equipment they back to Middle Ages level medicine and a person isn't very likely to survive a sword through the chest with that level of medical care.

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Made this. Thought it was a little funny.

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This episode was almost almost as shocking and heartbreaking as the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones. As soon as the sword was out, I knew Hershel was going to die. The musical cues didn't fool me at all.

I kept saying this to myself in my head, "I know it's coming, and I'm not going to like it anyway. I know it's coming, and I'm not going to like it anyway. I know it's coming, and I'm not going to like it anyway."

For what he did to Hershel, the Governor deserves to have his small intestine slowly pulled out of his belly inch by inch while he's still alive.
 
They're lucky if they have someone with medical training around but with a severe lack of medicine and medical equipment they back to Middle Ages level medicine and a person isn't very likely to survive a sword through the chest with that level of medical care.

They wish they had the practical knowledge of the middle ages. No, I'm not kidding. We (modern society) view the previous centuries from a very skewed perspective. The average person 500 yrs ago had a wider breadth of knowledge allowing them to live and thrive in the "wild" than our modern civilization. The vast majority of our medical knowledge is based on centuries old discoveries. I'd dare say a group of people from the 11th-15th centuries would survive a zombie apocolypse better than any of us.

Both these groups facing off have survived for ~3yrs post-apocolypse ... Neither acts like it. If anything at this point it should more closely resemble scenes from Mad Max. Rick's group are supposed to be hardened warriors by now; so being "shaken" by a shotout is BS. The Gov's new group (though desperate for leadership) should've had serious misgivings about his plan to take the prison. Even more so once Rick started talking peace, and especially after he killed Herschel unprovoked.

What the hell is wrong with Lily? She's a fricking moron! Her daughter is nearly killed multiple times for days ... "Hey go play in the mud while mommy sits safely ontop of an RV looking the other direction for long periods of time. Oh, and go ahead an' holler for me because that never attracts walkers."

Also did anyone else notice how dozens of walkers went right past the Gov/Rick epic slugfest creeping up behind the tank?
 
"Son, don't bother. Those cars won't run like a Hyundai."

:lol Yeah, because a Korean car made of lowgrade steel and plastic with a questionable drivetrain is a far better Z world choice than what are argueably the best trucks ever made (late 70's-early 80's) ... And when would they ever need 4x4? :lol
 
I'm not a hundred percent convinced the governor is dead... Seems cut and dry, but they left the actual death off screen... Could talking dead be misleading us? A bullet in that location would be death... But a single sword blade could miss all the vital organs. Just throwing it out there. I'm 90% sure though...

I can confirm 100% he is dead and is not coming back in any form what so ever, not even in flashbacks.
 
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