The OT stunt lightsaber blades research thread

Okay, so I appreciate the input, and I especially like disagreeing on this because we still haven't a clue what these blades are made of and maybe something will come of the different ideas.. Hopefully future us is giggling reading this.


These are my gut reactions:
Yes - Mark's does have the black stripe. This means the blade was painted black and reflective stuff was added basically. For the rehearsal? I had originally thought these were left-overs from ANH, which would suggest wood. but they flex and clack and would be new composite blades for Star Wars at the time. Why decorate the blades?
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Does the emitter damage match any other pictures?

Also, a side thing, how can the emitter on the V3 looking thing freely spin (like we've seen in this Warehouse) without also spinning the blade? Think about that for a minute, the emitter is usually attached to the blade and not the handle. In ANH it un-locked itself, and separated from the blade but it was being held upright. Halliwax may have some insight here.

It looks like the ANH stunt was rigged for sparring and we get some good shots of it in action. Not sure how many there are, since by ESB one of the ANH ones had bolts. Maybe it's the same one.
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This clamp. Since we know the little graflex bar replacement blocks aren't a special one-off thing, I find it less conclusive that this is the V2 lever we see today, since they exist on other clamps. The shape doesn't seem to match to me, never has. But it DOES match the stunt saber. I know, I know, why would they remove a clamp, etc. but this just doesn't feel like that scenario. Either way, if this is or isn't the current V2 lever... these two seem to match to me.
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The blades... I'm thinking the more expensive item we look at, the less chance there is they were used. Bob Anderson, Peter Diamond, etc. probably had to decide what would be safe for actors if it broke and what would flex and hold up to light dueling. I've been searching for interviews, hoping for an anecdote about it.
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Does the emitter damage match any other pictures?

Also, a side thing, how can the emitter on the V3 looking thing freely spin (like we've seen in this Warehouse) without also spinning the blade? Think about that for a minute, the emitter is usually attached to the blade and not the handle. In ANH it un-locked itself, and separated from the blade but it was being held upright. Halliwax may have some insight here.

That is the V3 for sure, you can tell by the nipple

Are you saying the emitter on the v3 is freely spinning?

If so I think I have a explanation but have to word it carefully..
 
That is the V3 for sure, you can tell by the nipple

Are you saying the emitter on the v3 is freely spinning?

If so I think I have a explanation but have to word it carefully..
As careful as you can, I would be very intrigued. (privacy issues, or is it just stupid complicated?)

It seems, when Mark is talking to the camera, that he twists the emitter one way and the rest of the blade/handle the other way. I know he's just fidgeting, but that set-up is really durable and it's what I want to make one day
 
As careful as you can, I would be very intrigued. (privacy issues, or is it just stupid complicated?)

It seems, when Mark is talking to the camera, that he twists the emitter one way and the rest of the blade/handle the other way. I know he's just fidgeting, but that set-up is really durable and it's what I want to make one day

Do you have a direct link? Or a time stamp on Disney+

Don’t forgot the emitters just float on the v2, I imagine it was the same way on the v3..
 
Do you have a direct link? Or a time stamp on Disney+

Don’t forgot the emitters just float on the v2, I imagine it was the same way on the v3..

Technically 7:08 but just before 8:00 he twists the emitter one way and the body another. I'm assuming it's not also spinning the blade and I can't figure out how the emitter doesn't fall off if it's loose on the blade

 
From 7.56 carefully watch how Mark transfers it from his left hand to his right. Carefully track the emitter & weather vane in relation to his hands. When in his left hand he is holding it by the blade with the emitter resting on top of his hand, he moves his left hand up onto the emitter at app 7.57 Late 7.57- early 7.58 - because his left hand is on the emitter - he grips the blade with his right hand with emitter resting on top (like he was prev holding it in his left hand) & then moves his left hand onto the weather vane / end of grenade & you can then see the emitter resting on top of his right hand only then does he start twisting - with the emitter clearly visible.

Clearly very hard clacky blades from later in the same sequence you posted earlier too.
 
Clearly very hard clacky blades from later in the same sequence you posted earlier too.

Watched that sequence now 20 times or more. I‘d say these blades are tapered spring steel rods covered with some other material such as scotchlite tape or a thin layer of plastic similar to a shrink wrap tube.
 
Watched that sequence now 20 times or more. I‘d say these blades are tapered spring steel rods covered with some other material such as scotchlite tape or a thin layer of plastic similar to a shrink wrap tube.


Spring steel rods? Like a golf club? Would metal have the flexibility we see without permanently bending?
 
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I am still convinced that the ESB and ROTJ stunt lightsaber blades were found parts. Just found this in the www: „Early ski poles were made of pine and bamboo, US patents for steel ski poles began in 1933 when John B. Dickson invented a new design calling for the use of steel as the shaft material.“

Steel ski poles, golf club shafts, antennas. The sound, the bending just screams spring steel tubes to me.
 
Here's the very last frame from the twisting sequence 'archives' video. Blue is the grenade section, red the weathervane, green the emitter - resting on top of his right hand.

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Technically 7:08 but just before 8:00 he twists the emitter one way and the body another. I'm assuming it's not also spinning the blade and I can't figure out how the emitter doesn't fall off if it's loose on the blade


Watched it a few times.. I can’t say the emitter is turning in that picture.. maybe it is? I still think it’s separate at this time. I don’t think the motor is in it though.. maybe? Don’t think it ever had one..

I wonder if that’s gaffers tape on the neck, looks pretty black?

It would make sense that he’s turning it but I don’t think it is..

The blade has a rod coming out of it. And the nipple acts like a bushing, and keeper, the v3 nipple looks bigger and sits on top of the emitter plate. Possibly having a.. easier for me to draw something up.. give me a minute I got photoshop now.. doesn’t mean I know how to use it lol
 
From 7.56 carefully watch how Mark transfers it from his left hand to his right. Carefully track the emitter & weather vane in relation to his hands. When in his left hand he is holding it by the blade with the emitter resting on top of his hand, he moves his left hand up onto the emitter at app 7.57 Late 7.57- early 7.58 - because his left hand is on the emitter - he grips the blade with his right hand with emitter resting on top (like he was prev holding it in his left hand) & then moves his left hand onto the weather vane / end of grenade & you can then see the emitter resting on top of his right hand only then does he start twisting - with the emitter clearly visible.

Clearly very hard clacky blades from later in the same sequence you posted earlier too.

Well I'll be damned. If anything, he's holding the blade, emitter resting on his hand and turning the body. It does look, towards the end, like he's tightening it, which really suggests to me it's locked together
Watched it a few times.. I can’t say the emitter is turning in that picture.. maybe it is? I still think it’s separate at this time. I don’t think the motor is in it though.. maybe? Don’t think it ever had one..

I wonder if that’s gaffers tape on the neck, looks pretty black?

It would make sense that he’s turning it but I don’t think it is..

The blade has a rod coming out of it. And the nipple acts like a bushing, and keeper, the v3 nipple looks bigger and sits on top of the emitter plate. Possibly having a.. easier for me to draw something up.. give me a minute I got photoshop now.. doesn’t mean I know how to use it lol

Did you ever get around to this? I'm intrigued in your analysis.

I am still convinced that the ESB and ROTJ stunt lightsaber blades were found parts. Just found this in the www: „Early ski poles were made of pine and bamboo, US patents for steel ski poles began in 1933 when John B. Dickson invented a new design calling for the use of steel as the shaft material.“

Steel ski poles, golf club shafts, antennas. The sound, the bending just screams spring steel tubes to me.

spring steel I think is used for theatrical swordfighting on stage, because it bends and doesn't risk breaking. I seriously wonder where you'd find tubes like this
 
which really suggests to me it's locked together

Carefully (slow mo) watch from 7.45 / 46 your above video & from 0.59 'archives' video (just after his demo of Peter Diamond as tuscan raider). Mark is holding it only by the blade & gives it a little 'twirl' - the whole thing rotates. Blade is definitely lock to the body to do this. Can't tell what the emitter is doing.
 
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Well I'll be damned. If anything, he's holding the blade, emitter resting on his hand and turning the body. It does look, towards the end, like he's tightening it, which really suggests to me it's locked together


Did you ever get around to this? I'm intrigued in your analysis.



spring steel I think is used for theatrical swordfighting on stage, because it bends and doesn't risk breaking. I seriously wonder where you'd find tubes like this

I fiddled for a hour with Photoshop.. one of the most complicated programs I’ve ever used.. lol I’m just gonna draw a picture

You guys now think it screws into the hilt?

So much going on and so little time I can’t keep up

Sure does look like gaffers tape on the neck to me, anyone else see it? We know I ANH the windvane is brown, here it’s clearly black

Could you imagine if we had this footage in 4k

Only crap...
 
Well I'll be damned. If anything, he's holding the blade, emitter resting on his hand and turning the body. It does look, towards the end, like he's tightening it, which really suggests to me it's locked together


Did you ever get around to this? I'm intrigued in your analysis.



spring steel I think is used for theatrical swordfighting on stage, because it bends and doesn't risk breaking. I seriously wonder where you'd find tubes like this
Well I'll be damned. If anything, he's holding the blade, emitter resting on his hand and turning the body. It does look, towards the end, like he's tightening it, which really suggests to me it's locked together


Did you ever get around to this? I'm intrigued in your analysis.



spring steel I think is used for theatrical swordfighting on stage, because it bends and doesn't risk breaking. I seriously wonder where you'd find tubes like this

I've been looking all over on line for these tubes. Closest thing I can find is blank steel golf club shafts. The only thing that comes up is the real thin "modern" antennas from cars and trucks.
 
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I've been looking all over on line for these tubes. Closest thing I can find is blank steel golf club shafts. The only thing that comes up is the real thin "modern" antennas from cars and trucks.
My gut feeling is they used military antennas.
 
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