"The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Space Adventure on Fox
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I feel like this was similar to what Barclay's holoprograms would have looked like if TNG was being filmed today.
At least Bortus didn't go full creeper and have holo versions of the crew in the programs.
Also, anyone else notice that the porn provider alien looked like a giant penis and also bore more than a passing resemblance to the tardigrade from Discovery?
At least Bortus didn't go full creeper and have holo versions of the crew in the programs.
Also, anyone else notice that the porn provider alien looked like a giant penis and also bore more than a passing resemblance to the tardigrade from Discovery?
AS much as his ceremony was a tip of the hat to the Klingon/Vulcan ones we have seen before, I was expecting something a bit weirder at the end, like Bortus having to fight (with dramatic music) a rival to reach his ancestral urinal...
I love the fact we saw the entire story- holo-porn addiction has consequences and some rescues have only partial success.
TNG danced around the issue- can you imagine Barclay and holo-Troi in those Bortus scenarios? Trek would have also found some technobabble to save everyone instead of having half die.
The Orville is a show with humor, but the fact it has the balls to deal with uncomfortable issues in a direct manner raises it to the next level...
TNG danced around the issue- can you imagine Barclay and holo-Troi in those Bortus scenarios? Trek would have also found some technobabble to save everyone instead of having half die.
The Orville is a show with humor, but the fact it has the balls to deal with uncomfortable issues in a direct manner raises it to the next level...
Checked out the first two eps last night.
Yeah, this show is one of my favorites. I haven't liked Trek since TNG and now I'm back into... Trek?... again!
At one point I was forgetting this was a jokey show... I actually cared watching the ship burning up even though I knew they were fine.
Good job, Seth.
Yeah, this show is one of my favorites. I haven't liked Trek since TNG and now I'm back into... Trek?... again!
At one point I was forgetting this was a jokey show... I actually cared watching the ship burning up even though I knew they were fine.
Good job, Seth.
Neat.
Loved the fact as the Orville was getting toasted we saw actual damage accumulating. We have had close passes to stars and atmospheric heating in TNG and ST-V before, but most of the time it is just somebody calling out numbers on the bridge. The way the showed it you got an almost visceral feel for what they were going through
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patrickivan
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It's remarkable how this is the Star Trek I didn't know I needed.
It's humour just pops out at the oddest time, with the strictest of non-response from other characters. There's an incredible and surprising no nonsense real dramatic story telling. Not so much in your face "messages" but more matter of fact things that they seem to make so normal, it makes our real world take on uncomfortable topics seem ridiculous.
Star Trek Discovery, for all it's alleged desire to be Star Trek, can take some cues from The Orville. There is no way in hell you'd see a group of "men" getting ready for an orgy (ugh-
) on Star Trek. But The Orville makes it seem like the most normal thing in the world somehow. Yes, I would have preferred women, but I'm not their sole audience
It's humour just pops out at the oddest time, with the strictest of non-response from other characters. There's an incredible and surprising no nonsense real dramatic story telling. Not so much in your face "messages" but more matter of fact things that they seem to make so normal, it makes our real world take on uncomfortable topics seem ridiculous.
Star Trek Discovery, for all it's alleged desire to be Star Trek, can take some cues from The Orville. There is no way in hell you'd see a group of "men" getting ready for an orgy (ugh-
) on Star Trek. But The Orville makes it seem like the most normal thing in the world somehow. Yes, I would have preferred women, but I'm not their sole audience
Was watching Red letter Media talking "Discovery", and more or less just crapping all over it...
Loved when Rich Evans now just flat out says "I watch The Orville to get my Star Trek"
And I don't mind the humor at ALL, I laugh/cringed when Mcfarlane "drove by" her place in the shuttle and panic turned the cloaking on... I have a friend who drive by's all her ex's so looking forward to her catching up on that ep.
Loved when Rich Evans now just flat out says "I watch The Orville to get my Star Trek"
And I don't mind the humor at ALL, I laugh/cringed when Mcfarlane "drove by" her place in the shuttle and panic turned the cloaking on... I have a friend who drive by's all her ex's so looking forward to her catching up on that ep.
kristen jones
Master Member
The Orville is indeed our new Star Trek, as far as I'm concerned. And it's free to give us all of the Star Trek notes we've wanted precisely because it isn't technically Star Trek. It isn't using names, places or characters from actual Trek, so they avoid all of the copyright nonsense which is plaguing Discovery (Since ownership of actual Trek is split between CBS and Paramount) and therefore can deliver us a wonderful scratch for that 90's era Trek itch while also doing it's own thing because it's it's own thing.
Lovely show! I hope it Lives Long and Prospers.
Lovely show! I hope it Lives Long and Prospers.
In a weird way I like it better than prime Trek ST-V & DS-9 - it does not play it safe...
Axlotl
Master Member
The Orville is everything I wanted from Star Trek. At first I thought it would be too much of a parody, as much of Seth's work is. However, most of the jokes are done in context of the moment, and work well.
They have also struck a good balance already with stories covering all the major characters, and building an interesting universe. I like that they haven't cheated on the sci-fi also, or when they did, there was valid excuse. Compared that to Star Trek Discovery's literal magical pixie dust excuse for everything new in that show, and you will see what I mean.
It is obvious that Seth McFarlane grew up with Star Trek and understands the moral stories that the show needs, but is adding his own style of comedy, with it toned down just a bit that I can tell my parents to also watch it.
Star Trek Discovery just fell into the trap of copying previous popular shows like Lost, and Game of Thrones, where they just decided to make "Game of Thrones, in space!"
They have also struck a good balance already with stories covering all the major characters, and building an interesting universe. I like that they haven't cheated on the sci-fi also, or when they did, there was valid excuse. Compared that to Star Trek Discovery's literal magical pixie dust excuse for everything new in that show, and you will see what I mean.
It is obvious that Seth McFarlane grew up with Star Trek and understands the moral stories that the show needs, but is adding his own style of comedy, with it toned down just a bit that I can tell my parents to also watch it.
Star Trek Discovery just fell into the trap of copying previous popular shows like Lost, and Game of Thrones, where they just decided to make "Game of Thrones, in space!"
PotionMistress
Sr Member
Wow, I really have to disagree with you on The Orville. While I was very disappointed in ST Discovery, I'm even more so in the Orville. The sets and special effects are just wonderful, I have to say; and the storylines are decent, but the writing on that show is so embarassingly awful it makes me cringe. The dialog is like it was written by a high schooler, and the acting is equally flat. I had to stop watching the first season after about half way through, I just couldn't bear it. I gave it another shot recently, after my husband (who's watched all of it) told me Robert Picardo and John Billingsley were going to be in a season 2 episode, so I watched that. They were the only good actors in that episode, and having seen the difference in their performances with all the others in that show really solidified my opinion that its as bland as yesterday's noodle pudding.
Zombie_61
Master Member
Oh good, for a change I'm not the only member here who's dissatisfied with the show. I've only seen the first two episodes of season two and thought the second episode was marginally more entertaining than the first, but if this is the best they can do they should just call it quits now. Good special effects (including the "alien" makeups and costumes) and the performances are as good as they need to be for a show like this, but the scripts are very hit-and-miss and for a show labeled as a "comedy drama" I find it to be rather lacking in humor. I was "on the fence" about this show throughout most of it's first season but ultimately liked more than I disliked about it, so I kept watching. Now I'm back on the fence.
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