The Official Boycott Star Wars Bluray thread

[MooMooEgg]

I want a re-release after this current Blu-ray release...

Except that the next one would be where the Criterion Collection gets a hold of the reels of the actual original OT and spends the time and money to properly remaster the three films since they seem to actually care about preserving film history. Sure, it'll probably cost us an arm and a leg, but man, that would be so worth it.

-Sigh- I can dream... :cry

 

[Frosteon]

almost 30 pages. I didn't read them all, so if this has been said, then pay no attention here. First off, I have never had any major issue with GL. (yes, his romance writing can use a lot of work, though) and I didn't think too badly of the prequals. I think there might be a point to be made, so just bare with me here. At the end of RotS when Vader/Anakin was asking if Padme was alright, found out she was dead, etc.. he yelled "Noooo!" depending how you look at it, that could be seen as Anakin's final moments before he truly becomes Darth Vader. By adding the "No.. No!" to Vader turning against the Emperor, that could be presented as the true moment Anakin resurfaces within himself. All this is a "certain point of view". Does GL see it like this? perhaps. If so, then I suppose I can understand, yet still don't agree. I'm going to agree The "No!" stuff isn't needed. It's obvious when he keeps looking back and forth between Luke and Palpatine that he will turn against him. Why change it?

Despite all this, I still enjoy the films. Prequals included. There was some debate as to what a "true fan" is... I've seen insults hurled around before "you're not a true fan if you like the prequals" or "no self respecting SW fan would stoop to watching the prequals" I have never ONCE insulted anyone for what They do and don't like, and I'm not insulting anyone now. Being a true fan is simply how you feel... are you passionate about these films? just the originals? It's all in how you feel. There is no more definition in "true fan" than that.

 

[Cal]

Well then... since it's your experience then it has to be true! C'mon, give it a rest.
If you want us to believe that then you can at least give us the exact date he said this. Since you claim to know his exact words still. Or could it perhaps be that you remember it wrong?

I'm not trying to prove anything to you, just give you my point of view and opinion. Same as you did.

 

[Psab keel]

That cartoon with the stormtrooper heads was pretty funny! haha

 

[niennumb1]

almost 30 pages. I didn't read them all, so if this has been said, then pay no attention here. First off, I have never had any major issue with GL. (yes, his romance writing can use a lot of work, though) and I didn't think too badly of the prequals. I think there might be a point to be made, so just bare with me here. At the end of RotS when Vader/Anakin was asking if Padme was alright, found out she was dead, etc.. he yelled "Noooo!" depending how you look at it, that could be seen as Anakin's final moments before he truly becomes Darth Vader. By adding the "No.. No!" to Vader turning against the Emperor, that could be presented as the true moment Anakin resurfaces within himself. All this is a "certain point of view". Does GL see it like this? perhaps. If so, then I suppose I can understand, yet still don't agree. I'm going to agree The "No!" stuff isn't needed. It's obvious when he keeps looking back and forth between Luke and Palpatine that he will turn against him. Why change it?

Despite all this, I still enjoy the films. Prequals included. There was some debate as to what a "true fan" is... I've seen insults hurled around before "you're not a true fan if you like the prequals" or "no self respecting SW fan would stoop to watching the prequals" I have never ONCE insulted anyone for what They do and don't like, and I'm not insulting anyone now. Being a true fan is simply how you feel... are you passionate about these films? just the originals? It's all in how you feel. There is no more definition in "true fan" than that.

If it's what he originally intended it to be then it should have already existed in the film. You don't just write a script, not revise it and forget to put something crucial in and then just go into production and finish the film, then have an epiphany 29 years later after several film revisions (1 of which was post-Episode III) and decide that should now be put in this release. You'd think they would have decided that change to come about in the 2004 or 2006 DVD releases when the scripts were already written or filmed for Episode 3.

I personally think it was just an afterthought of him thinking, "Let's see.... what would I have done differently if I went back AGAIN and did this film?" I think these things being done to the Blu-Ray releases are all just fun little unnecessary additions to keep it as something to talk about.

For me, welcome acceptable changes to the classic OT for me would have simply been this:
- Fix up any blue screen compositing issues, keeping all same footage
- Any lightsaber/laser issues be fixed
- Transparent matte removal on the fighters
- Improved sound mix with all original elements
- Leave Sebastian Shaw ALONE!

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

But think of this:

For every moment you sacrifice in rage over a movie/book/work of art evolving, you are giving up time in your own life to create, love or change your actual circumstances for the better. That choice is yours.

I do it in my breaks!

For me, the issue here is one of cultural conservation. The kind of thing that goes on in museums and so on. And hey, unlike museum curators, we're working for free in our spare moments! We should be getting paid for this!

 

[Nwerke]

I only want those for prosperity though,

"I do not think that word means, what you think it means"...

Sorry to burst a billion bubbles

Yep, you really changed my whole world view with that cogent, searingly well-argued piece. angel

I do it in my breaks!

This!! Isn't it possible, just possible, you know, that some of us might dissent with Lucasfilm's approach without being excessively worked up about the whole thing?!

 

[cayman shen]

All you freaks calling for a boycott... You can do what ever you want....

"Freaks," huh? Wow.

This thread is like going to Wal Mart on the first warm day of spring. All these really unpleasant people I've never seen around before are just coming out of the woodwork...

 

[SVTStingRay]

for those who think us as fans dont have a effect, check this out
from digital bits

Also today, it turns out that all 6 Star Wars films might not get the full 3D conversion after all. Why? Well, it seems demand MIGHT not be what Lucasfilm was expecting. Producer Rick McCallum now says they're starting with Phantom Menace and will do one per year in chronological order "if they work." Good luck with that, after pissing off fans with more pointless tweaking of the films. Hey Rick - you want to know what MIGHT get people back in theatres for these? 3D-convert the ORIGINAL theatrical versions, and then promise to release them on Blu-ray with the original versions in both 2D and 3D in PROPER, remastered quality. Yeah, I won't hold my breath.

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-en...massive-star-wars-3d-remakes-may-be-cut-short

 

[NAZGÛL]

for those who think us as fans dont have a effect, check this out
from digital bits


Massive Star Wars 3D remakes may be cut short | TG Daily

I read an interview with him saing that before we were aware about details being changed in the BR version. In that he said that they didnt know how many who would would be interested in going to the cinemas, and that they would try it with Ep 1.

I cant say I think its strange that ILM wants to test it with one before deciding to do all 6 episodes. I hope they do, as it would be nice to see them at the cinemas again. :thumbsup

 

[Solo4114]

Ok, even if you LIKE the Prequels, you have GOT to recognize that dumping a bunch of cash into TPM to convert it to 3D and release in theaters AS A TEST RUN is going to fail miserably. Even if you LOVE the Prequels, you have GOT to realize that TPM is the least favorite of all the films. And you have to at least recognize that there is a sizeable contingent out there who absolutely HATE TPM and view it as Exhibit A in the case for "George Lucas has either been kidnapped by space aliens and replaced by a dopelganger, or has simply lost his ***king mind." This is the film that gave rise to the "George Lucas raped my childhood" meme.

As a business decision, setting aside the merits of the movie entirely, whether the prequels are good, whether that film itself is good....why would you lead with your weakest film in the series? Why would you put money into the project LEAST likely to see a significant return?




You know what I think? I think it fits, actually. Here's what I bet happens. I bet, as a business decision, that there is actually a GREAT case for leading with TPM....depending on how you do your 3D conversion. I think a cynical, penny-pinching, miserly effort to convert the films to 3D in a very slap-dash, slip-shod way is what will happen, so that even if the film underperforms, it'll still be a good testbed to see if they can generate the kind of profits they want by going the el-cheapo route. They'll probably figure "Well, yeah, it only took in $200mil domestically, but come on, it's TPM. If the fans went $200 mil in for that one, and we made the kind of profit we just did by doing the crappy work we did, we'll make boatloads more with the next five!"

 

[NAZGÛL]

LIking them or not, it would be strange to release them in the order of the (hard core) fans liking. I guess ep 5 is the most popular among fans (nowadays...), then 4, then 3, 6, 2 and finally 1.

Doing 4-6 first, then 1-3 feels strange imo. Better to do them chronologically. ILM always presents SW as 6 episodes.

For sure ILM knows Ep1 is the least liked, and they will most likely think of that when deciding if the profit was enough and if all 6 would be good business.

 

[Lutso]

This thread is like going to Wal Mart on the first warm day of spring. All these really unpleasant people I've never seen around before are just coming out of the woodwork...

Golly, that's such a perfect way of describing it. Seriously, what is going on in this place?

2011 RPF Civil War

 

[Jeyl]

FANS REJOICE!

The BluRay Set does indeed contain an ORIGINAL THEATRICAL CUT of a Star Wars movie!

:eek

And which of these movies has Lucas deemed to be worthy of being released unaltered and unmodified when it was first theatrically released?

REVENGE OF THE SITH



Yep. Revenge of the Sith is, according to Lucas, the most perfect Star Wars movie in existence that doesn't need anything fixed to make it better. Now you're probably wondering why I would make such a post since most would probably conclude that Revenge of the Sith wasn't altered at all. Well, there was a wipe transition that was missing from the original DVD release that has now been put back for the BluRay release, thus making it identical to it's theatrical version.

Still doesn't fix the galaxy devouring plot hole where strong women with great leadership skills can just spontaneously lose the will to live just because some dbag of a husband did things that he's done before, only to different people. Makes Leia act almost out of character since she didn't die immediately lose the will to live following the destruction of Alderaan, seeing a frozen Han being taken away by Boba Fett, or being introduced to the now CGI eyed Wicket.

 

[Lutso]

Jeyl, you are a *******.

I read the first part of your post and...

:behave

 

[Nwerke]

I ROFLd.

 

[clancampbell]

Spot on, Jeyl!

Rich

 

[Shade88]

EPIC POST!!!

:lol That was awesome... (And yet, probably true)

 

[Nwerke]

I'm not sure about the "strong women with great leadership skills" part though; there's no female character matching that description in the Prequels. Heck, there's no male one either. :lol

 

[gonk27]

Yep. Revenge of the Sith is, according to Lucas, the most perfect Star Wars movie in existence that doesn't need anything fixed to make it better. Now you're probably wondering why I would make such a post since most would probably conclude that Revenge of the Sith wasn't altered at all. Well, there was a wipe transition that was missing from the original DVD release that has now been put back for the BluRay release, thus making it identical to it's theatrical version.

..or it's the deleted 'Back to the Future homage' that sees 3PO slam the ship into a truck load of manure.