The Book of Boba Fett

[Mottrex]

I was thinking the same thing, the guy in grey looks like some sort of Harry Potter meets Star Wars crossover cosplay. The girl makes me think of some sort of rocker chick from the '80s like Joan Jett.

I agree with everybody else about these guys, I enjoyed this episode for the most part, but this space Vespa gang really sucked. Totally out of place and the chase scene was rather meh

And just too long.. we could have had some decent story telling instead...

 

[mluder]

Here here...
And if anyone thinks we are a bit annoyed or feal let down Dont go on the Dented Helmets thread

After this last episode The tide is changing over there. LOL

 

[CelticRuins]

Yeah no, the Biff Power Rangers Gang did not work for me.

I was waiting for the girl to say to Boba, "You got no scrot??"

I was also hoping Boba and BK would have had some interaction to show their previous interactions. And I was really hoping the rancor that showed up would be Moochi from Bad Batch.

 

[mluder]

Totally agree, Disney Star Wars is not for me

(I wonder how much Favreau is actually involved in this….I’m praying that it’s not a lot)

J

It is kind of hard to believe that this show came from the same creative team as The Mandalorian. I'm kinda thinking they gave the keys to Rodriguez and he drove the car into a bridge abutment. He turned it into Shark Boy and Lava Grils instead of Desparado or From Dusk Til Dawn.

 

[Mottrex]

So rather than creating/writing characters who have facial scarring, but are instead presented from a ‘good place’ of which to look up to and normalize it, their logic is to have their characters physically transform to become.. ‘prettier’ ‘by removing/lessening/hiding said scarring effects? Which is something said children often cant do..

Sorry, but the logic doesn’t flow for me and if anything would come across to me as even More insulting from its virtue signaling

Theres plenty of media today with beloved characters who have significant scarring yet aren’t “bad guys”

Hey Don't shoot the messenger..
I also agree with what you are saying and everyone loves a villian..unfortunately kids in a playground love to find an way to abuse other kids... Its not my opinion its whats happening in the Industry and its why the last Bond got backlash too..

I don't think you can normalize any scar or facial disfigurement you just can't.. be it from birth a conflict or disease.

Its part of a person be it a character or real life..

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

This is my take on the speeder chase scene.

I think everyone was wanting a high-speed chase through the streets of Mos Espa ala 'Bullitt' with Mok Shaiz's Majordomo racing his speeder around like a turbo-charged '68 Camaro and the biker gang in hot pursuit driving hover Kawasaki Ninja motorcycles-- but let's think about this 'in universe'.

First, Mok Shaiz's Majordomo is an aristocrat/aid and not a trained racer. It's possible he may know how to drive a speeder, but as part of the mayors party he's probably driven around the city a lot more than he actually drives himself.

Second, that looked like a luxury speeder, not a racing model. It's possible that it can be driven faster but Mok Shaiz's Majordomo may not know what switches to flip to get his speeder to go faster.

In addition, he's not escaping- he's running for his life because he thinks Fett is going to kill him. So you have a posh aristocrat in a luxury speeder trying to get away but also trying to not run into a building or something else that would kill him or allow him to get caught, so I get why he was going as fast as he felt he could go and as fast as his speeder would let him go.

With the gang, we've seen speeder bikes and we've seen swoop bikes and you guys got it 100% correct- those kids are driving scooters. They can go fast, but not as fast as a speeder bike or a swoop. They are build for driving around the narrow streets of a city like Mos Espa, not outright high speed racing or long distance high speed travel.

So a group of teens with hover scooters are chasing an aristocrat in a luxury speeder through the very narrow streets in a crowded city. Yep, I think that chase was just about as realistic as it could have been 'in universe'.

 

[ConvergencePro]

I don't think you can normalize any scar or facial disfigurement you just can't.. be it from birth a conflict or disease.

Its part of a person be it a character or real life..

As someone with lifelong Vitiligo covering their arms and legs/body, I have to vehemently disagree with this..
Repeated exposure to a ‘thing’ is always absolutely the way to normalize something in society. The ONLY time I get ignorant comments from people in public is because people don’t know better because its not normalized in society.
The only reason scars and the like are being associated with bad guys is because that was what was exposed most to people in classic media and was visually “otherizing” for the antagonist compared to the pretty Hero/protagonist in stories. All they need do is create more good heroic protagonist characters with those same physical scarring traits in order to normalize it within in society.. ******, Japanese anime/manga is chock full of them..

But thats not what they did here with BoBF.. in fact, its the opposite… as classic ruthless hardened Boba Fett has been transformed into Filoni’s Good Guy ‘Roba Fett’ he’s gotten visually more appealing

 

[squirk]

This is my take on the speeder chase scene.

I think everyone was wanting a high-speed chase through the streets of Mos Espa ala 'Bullitt' with Mok Shaiz's Majordomo racing his speeder around like a turbo-charged '68 Camaro and the biker gang in hot pursuit driving hover Kawasaki Ninja motorcycles-- but let's think about this 'in universe'.

First, Mok Shaiz's Majordomo is an aristocrat/aid and not a trained racer. It's possible he may know how to drive a speeder, but as part of the mayors party he's probably driven around the city a lot more than he actually drives himself.

Second, that looked like a luxury speeder, not a racing model. It's possible that it can be driven faster but Mok Shaiz's Majordomo may not know what switches to flip to get his speeder to go faster.

In addition, he's not escaping- he's running for his life because he thinks Fett is going to kill him. So you have a posh aristocrat in a luxury speeder trying to get away but also trying to not run into a building or something else that would kill him or allow him to get caught, so I get why he was going as fast as he felt he could go and as fast as his speeder would let him go.

With the gang, we've seen speeder bikes and we've seen swoop bikes and you guys got it 100% correct- those kids are driving scooters. They can go fast, but not as fast as a speeder bike or a swoop. They are build for driving around the narrow streets of a city like Mos Espa, not outright high speed racing or long distance high speed travel.

So a group of teens with hover scooters are chasing an aristocrat in a luxury speeder through the very narrow streets in a crowded city. Yep, I think that chase was just about as realistic as it could have been 'in universe'.

I agree with everything you say, especially about the MD driving slow-ish because he doesn't know WTF he is doing or knows that if he goes too fast, he's going to wipe out in those narrow streets and put a definite end to his escape.

Still, it's clear that that sequence was intended to be somewhat high-pace. Probably could have been edited better, for sure.

But here's a question I have about the woman going up the stairway and them dropping down onto the speeder (and full disclosure, I am no physicist) - if she is chasing him at full speed - her scooter can't go any faster - what does shooting up to the second level do for her?

If the idea is that the acceleration due to gravity when she drops back down is going to give her an extra boost to catch up with the MD, is that sound physics? Does gravitic acceleration "stack" on top of a boosted descent? And even if it does, would the acceleration due to gravity from a height of 15 feet really close that gap? Especially since she probably lost both speed and distance going up the staircase in the first place?

I know this was probably a callback to what Anakin did in the Boonta Eve Classic to catch up with Sebulba, but 1.) Anakin dropped down from a much greater height; and 2.) he jiggered his engines for an extra double-secret probation boost as he started his descent, if I recall correctly.

Honestly, of all the things for me to nitpick about.......

 

[tgtiw]

BoBF is really just a story about an elderly couple, Boba and Fennec. They eat a meal, talk to some neighbors, take a walk into town, and then Boba has to get back for his nap. 3 episodes in and everything that's happened so far could have been covered in 1. I'm not a fan of Rodriguez and thought he was a bad fit for Star Wars, but this is even boring by his standards.

 

[HMSwolfe]

So, i've purposed in my heart not to complain so i'm gonna TRY to just ask questions this week. I've found i learn a lot more in life when i ask questions then when i complain and i tell you what....i can win a complaining contest with anyone hands down...lol.

My question/questions:

If most of our complaints or the complaints being posted are about the character of Boba as he stands now, and Favreau is writing the series episodes, then why are we putting so much emphasis on who's directing it each week?

Who is ultimately responsible for the writing of the character of Boba Fett and his arc?

I didn’t want to have to do this…

Yes, bad writing is bad writing, but good or bad direction can always affect that. So far, the writing for the whole show has been flat, stilted, and awkward. The difference is the episode not directed by Rodriguez doesn’t feel quite so bad because the director did their job, and directed the actors to get the performances they wanted, and collaborated with the crew, from the DP to the editor, to get the feel they wanted from the episode. Not to mention, hammy dialogue can always get changed on set. Maybe Steph Green was more open to input from the actors, or changed lines themself to better tell the story.

 

[AnubisGuard]

It is kind of hard to believe that this show came from the same creative team as The Mandalorian.

There was a rumor going around, oh, a year or so back that there were contract negotiation issues with Pedro Pascal and that it was up in the air if he would be back for a Mando season 3. BoBF being slotted into the production schedule where Mando would have been and then being...not good...makes me think that a.) the rumors were accurate, and b.) that BoBF was cooked up really fast to fill the void.

 

[squirk]

Maybe it's just me. It isn't the greatest photo. But I see two scars. I tried to brighten it and point them out. I don't if that helps.
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Ah. I see what you're saying. I didn't see those as scars; just more striations in his hair, especially since they don't match the placement of the scar we see in the comics. But maybe? The comb-over idea makes a whole lot of sense, but since the eye is also healed, I'm still putting my money on "bacta".

 

[squirk]

There was a rumor going around, oh, a year or so back that there were contract negotiation issues with Pedro Pascal and that it was up in the air if he would be back for a Mando season 3. BoBF being slotted into the production schedule where Mando would have been and then being...not good...makes me think that a.) the rumors were accurate, and b.) that BoBF was cooked up really fast to fill the void.

I thought BOBF is a reconfiguration of the Boba Fett movie that was in early planning before Josh Trank lost his mind and **** the bed during the production of "The Fantastic Four"? In other words, maybe indeed green-lit when Pascal was stonewalling, but also maybe not cooked up from scratch?

 

[squirk]

The thing that's getting me is that they're not being consistent, or at least definitively telling us, just how much Boba currently holds and how much Jabba held. In ep, 1 & 2 Boba is referred to or refers to himself alternately as the Daimyo of Tattooine and the Daimyo of Mos Espa. Then in ep .3 he's suggesting that he only controls Mos Espa when he tells the Power Rangers (I think it was them) to go to Mos Eisley if they don't like the way things are in Mos Espa. So what is Boba and what was Jabba the Daimyos of? Just Mos Espa or all of Tattooine?

I took that just to mean that Boba was implying that Mos Eisley is an even worse ******** than Mos Espa.

Notice in Ep 3, he tells the Twins they can have BK back if they renounce their claim to Jabba's holdings on Tatooine. Not Jabba's holdings, period (and Jabba surely had vast holdings on other worlds), but specifically Jabba's holdings on Tatooine.

Seems like further evidence that Boba really isn't interested in taking over Jabba's entire empire - he just wants Tat insulated and protected from any and all crime syndicates like the Hutts, Pykes, Crimson Dawn, etc.

 

[Halliwax]

There was a rumor going around, oh, a year or so back that there were contract negotiation issues with Pedro Pascal and that it was up in the air if he would be back for a Mando season 3. BoBF being slotted into the production schedule where Mando would have been and then being...not good...makes me think that a.) the rumors were accurate, and b.) that BoBF was cooked up really fast to fill the void.

This makes total sense to me!

 

[Mottrex]

As someone with lifelong Vitiligo covering their arms and legs/body, I have to vehemently disagree with this..
Repeated exposure to a ‘thing’ is always absolutely the way to normalize something in society. The ONLY time I get ignorant comments from people in public is because people don’t know better because its not normalized in society.

I totally agree with what you are saying and if if it sounded anyway disrespectful I apologise.
What I was saying in my OG post was about a specific group of people usually uninformed sometimes ignorant youngsters..

The only reason scars are being associated with bad guys is because that was what was exposed most to people in classic media and was visually “otherizing”

Which is what the Industry are trying to address.

for the antagonist compared to the pretty Hero/protagonist in stories. All they need do is create more good heroic protagonist characters with those same physical scarring traits in order to normalize it within in society.. ******, Japanese anime/manga is chock full of them..

But thats not what they did here with BoBF.. in fact, its the opposite… as classic ruthless hardened Boba Fett has been transformed into Filoni’s Good Guy ‘Roba Fett’ he’s gotten visually more appealing

The OG post which we replied too was about the Wookie Bounty Hunter BK not Boba but yes said BK's Scar as my OG post seems to be covered over..

Regards

Mott.

 

[Mottrex]

When the Hutts showed up last week I didn't realise they were using that fluffy white niep! creature as a Wet wipe

 

[CopperRevan]

I didn’t want to have to do this…
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Yes, bad writing is bad writing, but good or bad direction can always affect that. So far, the writing for the whole show has been flat, stilted, and awkward. The difference is the episode not directed by Rodriguez doesn’t feel quite so bad because the director did their job, and directed the actors to get the performances they wanted, and collaborated with the crew, from the DP to the editor, to get the feel they wanted from the episode. Not to mention, hammy dialogue can always get changed on set. Maybe Steph Green was more open to input from the actors, or changed lines themself to better tell the story.

that doesn't answer why Boba Fett's character is under the most scrutiny right now. Are we blaming Rodruiguez for the Boba Fett character now?

 

[CopperRevan]

There was a rumor going around, oh, a year or so back that there were contract negotiation issues with Pedro Pascal and that it was up in the air if he would be back for a Mando season 3. BoBF being slotted into the production schedule where Mando would have been and then being...not good...makes me think that a.) the rumors were accurate, and b.) that BoBF was cooked up really fast to fill the void.

Wasn't those same negotiations/rumors having to do with Pedro wearing the helmet a lot or not? He took it off in the finale' so wouldn't that debunk it if the rumor was true?

 

[AnubisGuard]

Wasn't those same negotiations/rumors having to do with Pedro wearing the helmet a lot or not? He took it off in the finale' so wouldn't that debunk it if the rumor was true?

It was yeah.

And not necessarily. Maybe he wanted even more than that; maybe the helmet removal in "The Believer" and then in the finale were added to appease him.

Or maybe the rumors are just rumors and aren't true. I don't know. I just find both the timing and the drop in quality of BoBF suspicious.