The Book of Boba Fett

I would actually like an animated series like the Marvel what if? It would be cool to see how the universe would play out if solo was the Jedi and Luke was a smuggler. If Vader had never turned evil, and the emperor seduced his son, etc.
 
Good reviews, all. My post-mortem is: They should have spent the hiatus plotting out more material for Din and Bo, kept Grogu out of it (and kept his training stuff for the Ahsoka show), condensed the Boba stuff into two or three episodes, added a couple others and called it The Mandalorians. With the different plotlines the different characters are up to re-crossing again at the end of the season.
 
Good reviews, all. My post-mortem is: They should have spent the hiatus plotting out more material for Din and Bo, kept Grogu out of it (and kept his training stuff for the Ahsoka show), condensed the Boba stuff into two or three episodes, added a couple others and called it The Mandalorians. With the different plotlines the different characters are up to re-crossing again at the end of the season.
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Watch an OT movie then watch this and you will see the problem. The tone is so wrong, it is just a live action cartoon, it feels like power rangers. A live action show should be cut from the same cloth as the movies. Mandalorian season 1 had a lot of promise, but season 2 and this went off the rails (this show, moreso). Filoni should not be indulged.

It is like when I played with all my SW figures when I was 10, the same kind of plots. The weird pastiche, like the wild west theme (cowboy hats and southern accents for aliens.. really?), the 'mods' and their 60's mod scooters, the cheesy AF Mandalorian Klingon warrior culture stuff, traffic cop x-wing pilots. It is all tonally wrong and shows a huge misunderstanding of the original movies.

Watch ESB and remember how you imagined that world, that universe beyond what was on our screens. It could be pretty dark, right? Pretty real?... These TV shows are just a 'Happy Meal'. It is all just content nowadays, shovel it down and destroy your palate. The audience is being infantilised.

You ready for Obi Wan? I predict we will see Grogu's temple escape, Ahsoka will be there for some reason, and Cad Bane will probably show up. There will be inquisitors hamming it up, they will probably even do the lightsaber helicopter. We will probably see how the N1 got to Tatooine. There will be a little girl with crazy hair that is meant to be the mechanic lady. I'm a huge Ewan fan so I'll end up seeing it.

The high points of these shows are only ever average, compared to top tier TV. I knew as soon as TROS was over, they'd turn to the shows as the tentpole and mess it up. That coincided with the shift between Mando seasons 1 and 2.
 
To echo what HMSwolfe said, I also disagree with this to an extent. Chapter 6 especially stands out in my mind as being written exclusively for super-nerds. It relies solely on cameos and the Cad Bane reveal, neither of which have much impact on the overall story in that episode. I've realized this is why I didn't feel as excited after it as I did with Chapter 5; it doesn't have any real meat. I watched it with my dad and brother, both very casual fans, and my dad fell asleep during the overly long training sequence and my brother felt very "meh" about the episode overall. He didn't get any excitement from seeing R2, Luke or Ahoska again, and had no idea who Cad Bane was and rolled his eyes at his dramatic entrance and the cliche western duel.

Even the Boba/Bane showdown in the finale fell completely flat in my opinion; there's nothing there. No history for casual fans (or super-nerds) to understand, and it feels like it was written with the assumption that super-nerds would love it just because of the fabled unfinished Clone Wars episode of their duel, which also lacks any context or real character development.

Idk how impossibly high your expectations were, but given it was the same creative team (plus Rodriguez), I think all of us expected the level of quality of The Mandalorian. Which I think it's safe to say most people feel is pretty solid. We know Disney is capable of producing good Star Wars, they've done it before. I know Star Was is a difficult franchise because of how many generations it has impacted, and by no means do I want to discourage Disney from making more. I'd genuinely love to see them learn from their mistakes and correct course. I have faith there is still amazing content on the horizon, I just hope they can decrease the amount of blunders going forward.
Well, I think we agree but are coming from it from different angles.

When I say the show isn’t written for us super-nerds, I guess what I should have said was “It’s not written just for us super-nerds.”

They toss in all these bits of fan service, but all of it seems “off.” As you said, they plop them in with no context and no history, and some unnecessary continuity conflicts, and as such, the fan service doesn’t really hit right with the very people this stuff was meant to appeal to.

It almost seems like it’s token - just thrown in for “nerd-cred” - but shoved into a story meant for more mass appeal than just us.

I get it. They don’t want just us watching. They need a viewer pool far, far larger than us. But I guess I’m just saying - if you’re going to do the fan service, do it right. Don’t just wedge it into your story half-ass and expect us to lap it up, y’know?
 
Well, I think we agree but are coming from it from different angles.

When I say the show isn’t written for us super-nerds, I guess what I should have said was “It’s not written just for us super-nerds.”

They toss in all these bits of fan service, but all of it seems “off.” As you said, they plop them in with no context and no history, and some unnecessary continuity conflicts, and as such, the fan service doesn’t really hit right with the very people this stuff was meant to appeal to.

It almost seems like it’s token - just thrown in for “nerd-cred” - but shoved into a story meant for more mass appeal than just us.

I get it. They don’t want just us watching. They need a viewer pool far, far larger than us. But I guess I’m just saying - if you’re going to do the fan service, do it right. Don’t just wedge it into your story half-ass and expect us to lap it up, y’know?
I suppose I agree with that. They drop in the “super-nerd” stuff, but it’s not quite done right and it alienates that audience, but then they generalize stuff on the other end to try appealing to a larger audience that falls flat too.
 
Well...I went in with low expectations and they were met.

I'll admit...it wasn't really as horrible as I thought it might be... but it certainly was lackluster. I agree with the notion that it all just somehow felt cheap. Like the premiere, I felt the finale was just...fine?...but that's not much praise for a premiere or a finale. It didn't make up for the rest of a sometimes "blah", sometimes bizarre season.

With everything now said and done, for me the fact is cemented that this story and the weird benevolent crimelord iteration of Boba Fett they decided to go with just isn't compelling and this show failed to sell me on it. And no, I don't care whether or not OT Fett was ever the steely, ruthless badass Fett fans hoped he was. The fact remains that's the Fett I wanted to see and I think many Fett fans did too. As mentioned many pages ago, I sorely wish they had gone Unforgiven with this. How meta it would've been to study the myth and legend of Fett within his own canon, through the eyes of a young admirer and up and coming bounty hunter. Cad Bane would've been a great inclusion as well. Maybe he kills Fett in the end. Anyway I digress...

The scene at the end in particular was pure cringe, with Fett beaming and people offering him fruit. Yeesh. I'm surprised he wasn't kissing babies. Contemplating the season as a whole, I just find myself thinking that I'm kinda glad it's over and how much better it all could've been. For such a fan favorite, what a wasted opportunity. Fennec got a lot of the cool moments Fett should've had. Hanging the defenseless Mayor from the ceiling was exactly the kind of hardcore stuff as I would've expected from Fett.

While I think this episode was the best of the RR directed episodes, I hope he is not involved if there is a season 2. He's just not a great fit for SW.

No one is infallible, but I was wondering how Favreau could've dropped the ball on what ultimately felt like a cobbled together, halfhearted effort. Then I remembered this was original going to be a movie. I wonder how much freedom he was given? Was the framework of the movie's story already hashed out and he was forced to work within the confines of adapting an existing treatment for a TV series? It this why the pacing was so weird, and it was tonally so far off? Was this all him or was this him adapting and modifying an existing, mothballed story? Maybe there really wasn't enough content to warrant a full season so he was forced to stretch the content out as much as he could (which is why it felt like a lot of tire spinning and not much happening) and failing that, also had to include what amounted to two episodes of The Mandalorian to further pad out the episode count? Could also explain why there's only seven episodes instead of the customary eight episodes of a Mandalorian season.

Killing live-action Cad Bane seems like such a waste...and I'm not a fan of it...but he really needs to stay dead. I liked him and thought he added a lot but just leave him dead now. No more miraculous resurrections. Vanth coming back is a stretch but it is a bit more believable as he was just winged. Having Thundercat mutilate him seems a bit much for a shoulder wound unless there's something funky about Bane's blaster.

I really wish Grogu had stayed gone longer and his reunion with Mando was under different circumstances. Oh well. I guess Luke's attempt to train his first student has already ended in failure. Poor Luke. None of that should've been in this show anyways.

Ultimately none of this really matters. That's not always a terrible thing but the story needed to at least be interesting and compelling. Now on to Obi-wan but I have significant reservations about that as well. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised but I won't hold my breath. BoBF should've been easy by comparison and hard to screw up but here we are. The stakes are much higher for an Obi-wan show and the odds of really goofing it up are much higher as well. So much can go wrong there but I hope they succeed.
 
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if there is one thing the people of FREE TOWN should have learned from the Krayt Dragon.......serpentine motions baby....

I'm just saying when your running from a slow moving droid straight down a street. Serpentine motions baby. It's all good, they all want to die as a giant single unit. Take cover in one of the thousand home alley ways all around you? nah just clump up and run right down the middle of the road in a straight line.
 
The way they were fighting, no one who's name isn't in the opening credits should've been alive.

They could've even TRIED to make the modded kids have a purpose, like the dude with the eye could've been a can't miss sharpshooter. Someone could've had a Gatling gun arm. Wolverine claws. SOMETHING.
 
Hey you know what I want to do? replace the random middle section of my arm with a pointless, useless, robotic arm. Keep my shoulder and the top part of the bicep and my hand, but just replace the rest with a cylinder that does nothing. It will look super wizard.

You either replace the full arm and shoulder, or the forarm and hand. The middle part? who **** passed off that design.
 
Hey you know what I want to do? replace the random middle section of my arm with a pointless, useless, robotic arm. Keep my shoulder and the top part of the bicep and my hand, but just replace the rest with a cylinder that does nothing. It will look super wizard.

You either replace the full arm and shoulder, or the forarm and hand. The middle part? who **** passed off that design.
Beats the hell out of me.. I’ve been asking myself this question since 3am
 
I suppose I agree with that. They drop in the “super-nerd” stuff, but it’s not quite done right and it alienates that audience, but then they generalize stuff on the other end to try appealing to a larger audience that falls flat too.
Exactly.
 
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