The Book of Boba Fett

BobaFettSlave_1 said:
Yeah originally in early storyboards Boba was going to lose a hand to Luke, and when he turns around to shield himself Luke then slices the pack sending Boba flying into the pit.
Somewhere in PreProduction this got changed over a bit to having just Bobas ROTJ Blaster getting cut in half instead, and Boba using his whipcord on Luke, only to get shot in the back by that schmuck with the DOOM canon at the same moment Luke cuts himself free, and then Han gets his "revenge" sending Boba flying after. The stupid closeup shots like something out of Das Boot certainly don't help understanding the mess though hahaha

ROTJ Boba got dun dirty
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When I met dicky beer, we talked a lot about the sarlacc stunt. He mentioned how they fought for much longer and after the zip cord he used his flame thrower on luke which never got used

He said he not only played fett in that scene but they dressed him in Luke’s setup as well, and he was the one that the fire was aimed it “so it was like fighting myself” he mentioned

Hope one day those pictures or video surface
 
Thain said:
To preface this, much like Halliwax, I've never been a huge Boba Fett fan. Don't get me wrong, I've always thought he looked cool and he certainly always piqued my interest, but he served his purpose in the OT and at this point it feels like he's overstayed his welcome. I love good well written characters and I find Din Djarin to be a much more compelling character, so this show has a lot to prove that the OG-Mandalorian-who-now-feels-like-he's-playing-catch-up-to-his-superior-copy is worth caring about.

That being said, this first episode was a big disappointment, nothing remarkable. A lot of how I feel has already been said here so I won't retread, however I had a couple major gripes I haven't seen discussed much yet.

The first being where's the hook? Why is Boba Fett suddenly taking interest in becoming the next crime lord? What's the reasoning? What are his motives/endgame? Also he keeps talking about doing things "differently" but we really have no idea what things were like before he decided to take over the throne, so there's nothing to compare it to and it ends up feeling empty. An opening episode for a show should hook the audience with an interesting dilemma or premise, but this felt void of that. I don't know any more about what this show is than I got from the trailers.

The second thing, and possibly the more frustrating for me...this episode looked awful. I had the same issue with Mando season two's 'The Tragedy,' it looked cheap and felt like a fan film. In this episode the lighting is flat, the colors feel blown out, and it lacks any interesting cinematography. In terms of direction, the choreography feels soft and lifeless especially, an issue 'The Tragedy' actually didn't have. I'm assuming most of this can be attributed to Robert Rodriguez's directing, which after his 2 episodes of Star Wars I can confidently say I am not a fan. But, I can't overlook that it is likely a mix of him and the DP David Klein, who was the cinematographer for both his episodes. What worries me is Klein is attached to 5 of the 7 episodes, so we'll see how much changing up the directors actually affects the look of the show. Maybe I'm just incredibly spoiled by Dune, but they need to take some notes on how to shoot desert environments in the blazing sun and make them look absolutely breathtaking. Overall, this felt like a huge step down in quality from both seasons of The Mandalorian, which were generally gorgeous.

Last note for now, and related to above, is The Volume is not doing any favors for open desert environments here. For half of this episode the set was clearly a flat floor covered in sand with giant LED screens behind them 'extending' the embarrassingly small stage footprint. This was especially noticeable when Fett has the little tussle with the Tusken guy at night after he runs away and he gets his ass kicked (again). Would it kill them to place the Tusken camp in some rock formations instead of the open "dunes" so they can hide the limitations of The Volume a little better?

Anyway, leading up to this show I didn't care much for Fett and I'm hoping the show will convince me why I should. Jury's still out on that one, but as of now I care less about him than I did last week.
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You hit the nail on the head when you mention the fight scene. The scene with fennec was far more interesting then the shield circle fight with fett..

Also not picking on Temeura but he was like moving in slow motion compared to the mando episodes.

Maybe this was done on purpose because of the whole bacta thing? But I noticed right away I was like “when is he going to start kicking ass!?!”

I’m curious if he is dependent on bacta now.. like is bacta a opioid..
 
Inquisitor Peregrinus said:
There was a bit of a music cue for the bounty hunter briefing, but then Boba himself had two -- the low bassoon one of him tracking the Falcon and the lovely horn piece as he's taking the Han-cicle to Slave I and leaving. And neither was re-used in ROTJ.

I am doubling down that the "Boba" in ROTJ, The Mandalorian, and TBOBF is Spar (or similar) and, as Jabba's henchman, he had dreams of being top dog. And all of this is a PTSD-fueled nightmare he's having while waiting for Fennic to rendezvous with him after he jumps out during the infiltration of Gideon's cruiser. That's why Bib and Max are there even though they were on Jabba's barge when it blew up. That's why the throne has his name carved into it before he takes over. That's why there's no one in the sarlacc with him but a random Stormtrooper. That's why he he looks off after getting out. And the real Boba is still out there somewhere...

That's my headcanon and I'm sticking with it. I'd rather "it's all a dream" than 21st century Star Trek levels of continuity fail.
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It’s unlikely, especially considering the footage of young Boba they already showed, but at this point I’d agree with you. Honestly, I’d rather see Daniel Logan show up as your “real” Boba Fett simply because he’s closer to the right age and body shape. They can explain away the difference in appearance with some slight retcon, or whatever. It would be neat to see the ESB scheme show up again in a showdown between Tem and Daniel.
 
TK4611 said:
Probably not an ideal place to be then if you want to avoid spoilers or general discourse on the subject...
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I understand people who mind spoilers and I respect that, but personally don't mind spoilers, never did.
 
Uber Fett said:
There were a bunch of story holes that are real glaring.

1. When Boba escapes from the Sarlacc, it's apparently only a few days after he went in. So he went in a fit Fett, but a few days later, came out much thicker. He had quite a bit of damage to his armor for being slowly digested over a 1,000 years.

2. Where were all of Jabba's henchmen who also went into the Sarlacc? They were no where to be found, yet a Stormtrooper was next to Boba? Where'd the trooper come from?

3. When Boba went into the Sarlacc, he would have been 36. However, he pops out of the Sarlacc a few days later and not only is he thicker, but he's almost thirty years older.

4. So Boba was this badarse bounty hunter. After only a few days, not only has he gotten thicker, aged 30 years, but now can't fight off Jawas? Only thing I can think here is he was out cooking in the sun in that armor without food or water. But even after regaining some health, he can't whup a Tusken youngling?

5.

I could go on.

Now for the costume:
1. Was it me or did it look like Boba's helmet was a reworked Rubies from about 2004?
2. The new Tuskin's were pretty cool.

As for the story:
1. I agree that they've taken the mystique away from Boba.

2. If they were looking for some fan-service, where the frack was Dengar? The story of how Boba was able to survive for a few years, repairing his jet pack and finally using a thermal detonator to blow his way out of the Sarlacc was way better than what this was. Dengar finds Boba and nurses him back to health. Far better than the Tuskins... Though perhaps, Dengar will appear in a few episodes down the line rescuing Boba from the Tuskins, Or they let him go and he has to fend for himself. Who knows...

3. Yah...how did Bib get off the barge and away from the blast zone? Was that Max Rebo? How'd he get his chunky behind off the ship? Was he with Bib and a few of the other Jabba soldiers?

Again...there are a lot more, but a lot of that has been touched upon already.
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The age of Temuera is the least of worries. Either way you slice it, he's way too old to be playing Boba 5 years after ROTJ. But then so was Obi-Wan. Tatooine and the Sarlacc just aged him up.
 
Joek3rr said:
The age of Temuera is the least of worries. Either way you slice it, he's way too old to be playing Boba 5 years after ROTJ. But then so was Obi-Wan. Tatooine and the Sarlacc just aged him up.
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Agreed...but I like Tem and Alec so much i can't imagine anyone else ever in the roles. good points
 
Whenever you could see people standing on the trap door in the palace, it looked like it wasn’t even there, just flat, like they’re using the volume as a floor now as well.
 
Kylash said:
Whenever you could see people standing on the trap door in the palace, it looked like it wasn’t even there, just flat, like they’re using the volume as a floor now as well.
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Which I’ve got to assume is possible, it would just require some kind of transparent floor to stand on to protect the screens.
 
First off, i've been severely critical of anything that has come on screen since ROTJ..."Get off my lawn!!" because it's like an infringement on our known territory. With that being said, I remain critical because i want it to be GREAT. To me, Mandolorian was phenomenal and i'm glad i opened myself to it.
Now, we will forever compare live action Star wars TV shows to it. We want it to be, at the very minimum, equal to its' predecessor and/or even better...The Book of Boba, i will not criticize as a whole until i watch it as a whole. Within each episode we will complain, dissect, find holes have problems with etc. We are human and i'm guilty as charged.
The problem i think many of us have with The Book of Boba from the first episode is the fact we were given that flashback in the Sarlacc pit. Everyone clamoured for them to touch on it and they did and like i said before, trying to answer these questions just creates more because we want to fill in every gap. Luke and the gang is still out there while Boba is in the Sarlacc. We've now reversed perspectives of the story because we've now added one, and want it to be the central theme and have the Larger OT universe center around a Much smaller part..Boba. We forget that the earth revolves around the sun not the sun around the earth.
With that being said, you would think that Boba's first ambition out of the pit is to assess what happened...find out where everyone he was affiliated with is or isn't and since he already has had connection with Vader in ESB, now that Han, Luke etc. has escaped, maybe contact Vader again? And he's a bounty hunter who needs to get paid.IDK, i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. Why do we struggle so much on this first episode? Gaps!!! We want more info for things to make sense.."Stay tuned for the next episode of..." (Dangled Carrot).
I agree that Mando seems to be the more intriguing character..why? He was new and fresh and his backstory was a hook and his connection to the present(Grogu) was heartfelt. We wanted to root for a Bounty Hunter. Boba is a much different endeavor. I was intrigued without knowing his back story. Then we added the boy Boba. It would be much more intriguing to now know what happened between the years of Boba as a boy and how he dealt with seeing his father beheaded leading up to his eventual transition into adulthood. Maybe these Bacta tank flashback sequences will end up doing that but we have to be patient...but we may not like what we seem to so desperately want.
Think about it. What expectations did we have with Mandolorian?...none..we didn't know him yet. What expectations do we have with Boba?quite a bit since we do know of him.
 
As for a weaker fett....ever seen someone go through chemo? You have to get worse (and usually a lot worse) before you get better.

He is trying to heal so much, that that very well could be the case. Undoing all the damage takes a toll and you gotta get through to the other side and then do your rehab. The only other person we've seen pop out of a bacta tank is luke and he just got smacked upside the head.

There's also what's mentioned above - he took the brunt of his rocket blast without a helmet. He also took the equivalent of what? 10 shots with a cattle prod during that bit. I don't care who you are, you take all that, it has a large effect.
 
cboath said:
As for a weaker fett....ever seen someone go through chemo? You have to get worse (and usually a lot worse) before you get better.

He is trying to heal so much, that that very well could be the case. Undoing all the damage takes a toll and you gotta get through to the other side and then do your rehab. The only other person we've seen pop out of a bacta tank is luke and he just got smacked upside the head.

There's also what's mentioned above - he took the brunt of his rocket blast without a helmet. He also took the equivalent of what? 10 shots with a cattle prod during that bit. I don't care who you are, you take all that, it has a large effect.
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Anyone else get the feeling that his nightmares are interrupting the bacta cycle? So he’s not taking complete treatments?
 

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