The Book of Boba Fett

Grievous

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I wonder if there's a backstory for Mando's N-1 ending up in Tatooine
Could it be linked with baby Luke getting there with Obiwan all those years ago?
Maybe an escort fighter flown by one of Padme's kickass bodyguard doubles, like Sabé (?)
"That is a story for another time..." and would be super cool but we just had an entire episode about Mando with no Boba leaving us with only 2 left. That and almost nothing has been resolved in the current plot lines. Maybe in the new Obi-wan series? (Here's to hoping!)
 

Wolfsburg

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I think that might be a little reductionist... Qui-Gon tells Anakin we all have midi-chlorians, and that they're our connection to the Force. There was stuff in George's notes and conversations with ADF back in '75 when the novel was being written that, basically, had that anyone could learn to wield the Force to some degree. Higher midi-chlorian count means more of a conduit/more ease/more inherent talent. Even Anakin needed years or training to be able to do more than have the precognitive/instinctive flashes that let him be a good pilot. Why I have such a problem with Broom Boy in TLJ.


But, beyond the dent and physical construction, the helmets are otherwise entirely different, from paint colors used to specific color scheme to weathering to detailing. Hot Toys actually helped me out a lot, here. Their notorious pursuit of accuracy led them to color-match the original props in the LFL Archives, and they recreated all of the topical weathering and markings. This is the best side-by-side comparison under the same light you'll probably ever see:

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Regardless of anything else, we're supposed to believe those are the same helmet.


I have a feeling Boba and his apparent age-mates would've been in a lot of the same areas getting the same training at the same time. Probably what helped one young trooper, at least, develop a fixation on his "father" and want what Boba had.


Simple. Two ships. One came and went with Boba -- Slave I -- and the other was the imposter's ship -- unnamed Firespray.
No arguments here! Besides being the same style Mandalorian helmets, they really are almost entirely different. The hardest thing to reconcile is the identical dents.

If Omega can be another unaltered clone, there could be yet another.

I was operating off the belief there are no more Firesprays or they’re very rare but not sure why I thought that. I will say it would be quite the coincidence they fly the same model of (rare?) ship with similar/identical paintschemes though.
 

Mottrex

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Or even Obi-Wan, himself. He knew how to fly, even if he didn't like it. And the fewer people who knew where he took the boy (like, just him), the

"That is a story for another time..." and would be super cool but we just had an entire episode about Mando with no Boba leaving us with only 2 left. That and almost nothing has been resolved in the current plot lines. Maybe in the new Obi-wan series? (Here's to hoping!)
Isnt that another time line
 

Wolfsburg

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I wonder if there's a backstory for Mando's N-1 ending up in Tatooine
Could it be linked with baby Luke getting there with Obiwan all those years ago?
Maybe an escort fighter flown by one of Padme's kickass bodyguard doubles, like Sabé (?)
I thought I was gonna have a hard time accepting the N-1 starfighter but in my mind, I can accept that maybe Peli simply used her junker/spaceport contacts to source it from somewhere quite possibly beyond Tatooine. I mean, she does run a docking bay and knows her way around fixing ships so it at least seems plausible she probably has some far reaching contacts.

It seems Mando had commissioned her to find him a ship and so maybe she cast a wide net and that’s what she came up with, a rare and unusual ship that somehow left Royal Naboo auspices…but also a total, decomissioned basketcase.

I don’t see these being contracted out or being used beyond the Naboo royalty and even upon decommissioning, probably done so by the Naboo themselves. However, maybe somehow one fell through the cracks or was otherwise obtained through unique circumstances.
 
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BlandoCalrssian

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I wonder if there's a backstory for Mando's N-1 ending up in Tatooine
Could it be linked with baby Luke getting there with Obiwan all those years ago?
Maybe an escort fighter flown by one of Padme's kickass bodyguard doubles, like Sabé (?)

Not everything needs a back story. I doubt the N-1 is a front line fighter at this point, probably just an old airframe sold as scrap or surplus.
 

Inquisitor Peregrinus

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I wonder if there's a backstory for Mando's N-1 ending up in Tatooine
Could it be linked with baby Luke getting there with Obiwan all those years ago?
Maybe an escort fighter flown by one of Padme's kickass bodyguard doubles, like Sabé (?)
"That is a story for another time..." and would be super cool but we just had an entire episode about Mando with no Boba leaving us with only 2 left. That and almost nothing has been resolved in the current plot lines. Maybe in the new Obi-wan series? (Here's to hoping!)
Isnt that another time line
I mean, the Kenobi series is between ROTS and ANH. This is years later. No reason that ship wasn't rotting in a Mos Eisley impound lot for some years, then made its way through the hands of several ship mechanics who thought to restore and mod it, before it ended up at Amy's. If this was set before ROTS, it's be a continuity problem, but this is nothin'.

No arguments here! Besides being the same style Mandalorian helmets, they really are almost entirely different. The hardest thing to reconcile is the identical dents.
Not if a clone trooper found a green painted Mando helmet after deserting and got the idea to replicate Boba's dent.

If Omega can be another unaltered clone, there could be yet another.
I need to finish watching Bad Batch. Is it ever explained how an unaltered clone can be the opposite sex of its parent? Especially male-to-female -- there's a whole leg of the second sex chromosome that'd have to be added.

I was operating off the belief there are no more Firesprays or they’re very rare but not sure why I thought that. I will say it would be quite the coincidence they fly the same model of (rare?) ship with similar/identical paintschemes though.
Ancillary material at the time of AOTC had Jango stealing the prototype and blowing up the facility to ensure it was the only one. That always seemed bad writing to me. I liked the old, '80s-vintage lore that they were contracted by the Mandalorians to interdict their space from intruders. As designed, they took a crew of three -- one up in the pilot seat, two below at the lower stations. In the Marvel comics, we saw Boba's crew -- the only Mandalorian Protectors to survive the Clone Wars out of the 212 mustered -- Tobbi Dala and Fenn Shysa. Fenn, especially, hated Boba for abandoning his people to Imperial subjugation. Presumably he took their ship and left. If they were fleet vehicles, it makes sense they'd be painted in uniform manner.

One of the many things about the Prequels where I felt they dropped the ball on continuity (chance to depict a clean, freshly-painted Slave I, chance to recreate the ESB cockpit set, with the added lower stations this time, etc.)
 

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(Dogius Ignoramus) finally figured out the ONLY way to get the fans back

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Wolfsburg

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I mean, the Kenobi series is between ROTS and ANH. This is years later. No reason that ship wasn't rotting in a Mos Eisley impound lot for some years, then made its way through the hands of several ship mechanics who thought to restore and mod it, before it ended up at Amy's. If this was set before ROTS, it's be a continuity problem, but this is nothin'.


Not if a clone trooper found a green painted Mando helmet after deserting and got the idea to replicate Boba's dent.


I need to finish watching Bad Batch. Is it ever explained how an unaltered clone can be the opposite sex of its parent? Especially male-to-female -- there's a whole leg of the second sex chromosome that'd have to be added.


Ancillary material at the time of AOTC had Jango stealing the prototype and blowing up the facility to ensure it was the only one. That always seemed bad writing to me. I liked the old, '80s-vintage lore that they were contracted by the Mandalorians to interdict their space from intruders. As designed, they took a crew of three -- one up in the pilot seat, two below at the lower stations. In the Marvel comics, we saw Boba's crew -- the only Mandalorian Protectors to survive the Clone Wars out of the 212 mustered -- Tobbi Dala and Fenn Shysa. Fenn, especially, hated Boba for abandoning his people to Imperial subjugation. Presumably he took their ship and left. If they were fleet vehicles, it makes sense they'd be painted in uniform manner.

One of the many things about the Prequels where I felt they dropped the ball on continuity (chance to depict a clean, freshly-painted Slave I, chance to recreate the ESB cockpit set, with the added lower stations this time, etc.)

Ehhh, I would think it would really take some doing to replicate an identical dent on a beskar helmet, given how impossibly impervious beskar has been established to be. Frankly, at this point I don’t really get how it happened on *one* helmet!

Regarding Omega, I’m not sure. I haven’t watched the show and am only aware she exists. Lol!

I guess Fauxba could’ve replicated real Boba’s Slave I paintscheme although I assumed Jango’s paintscheme was closer to “stock”. Maybe not though.
 

Inquisitor Peregrinus

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Ehhh, I would think it would really take some doing to replicate an identical dent on a beskar helmet, given how impossibly impervious beskar has been established to be. Frankly, at this point I don’t really get how it happened on *one* helmet!
It's messier than that. Technically speaking, that's not a dent, but a crater. When metal dents, it tends to have rounded edges down to the point of impact. Sharp edges like the put in five of the six helmets cast... that's where material was forcibly removed. Like active armor/CHOBAM. So I don't have a useful explanation, just vague notions. Regardless, if Captain America's shield can be broken, if the adamantium can be ripped off Wolverine's skeleton, if the One Ring can be unmade, then something can knock a crater into a beskar helmet -- and if something can do that to one, it can do it to two.

I guess Fauxba could’ve replicated real Boba’s Slave I paintscheme although I assumed Jango’s paintscheme was closer to “stock”. Maybe not though.
I mean, that was one of the many things about how AOTC treated it I had problems with, right up there with radically altering the cockpit area. All they needed to do was a clean(er) version of the one on the left. Instead, we got the one on the right...

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Lightning

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I need to finish watching Bad Batch. Is it ever explained how an unaltered clone can be the opposite sex of its parent? Especially male-to-female -- there's a whole leg of the second sex chromosome that'd have to be added.

They don't go into it, but it should be super simple for the Kaminoans. Just remove the Y chromosome and add a duplicate copy of the existing X. A male clone of a female would need a donor Y, but not the other way around.
 

Wolfsburg

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It's messier than that. Technically speaking, that's not a dent, but a crater. When metal dents, it tends to have rounded edges down to the point of impact. Sharp edges like the put in five of the six helmets cast... that's where material was forcibly removed. Like active armor/CHOBAM. So I don't have a useful explanation, just vague notions. Regardless, if Captain America's shield can be broken, if the adamantium can be ripped off Wolverine's skeleton, if the One Ring can be unmade, then something can knock a crater into a beskar helmet -- and if something can do that to one, it can do it to two.


I mean, that was one of the many things about how AOTC treated it I had problems with, right up there with radically altering the cockpit area. All they needed to do was a clean(er) version of the one on the left. Instead, we got the one on the right...

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Well I suspect it would've taken a special circumstance to produce such distinctive damage to beskar. Even if it's possible, it's not necessarily readily repeatable even if he knew how to. That's also assuming he knew exactly where to place said damage. Otherwise I agree though. I always thought the dent looked more like a gouge. Only other thing I could figure is perhaps a very localized acid drip or a persistent energy beam of some duration? Perhaps that could deform into a recess while also preserving such sharp, defined edges? I dunno. As I recall, the dent actually was cast from C-3PO’s dent in ANH and added to cover a flaw, but I dunno if that’s true. That dent’s context with C-3PO would make more sense considering the thinner sheetmetal than thicker helmet grade beskar though.
 
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