NZ17
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It looks like Warner Bros. has started sending sets of the cowl and chest piece as surprise gifts to certain social media individuals.
The Batman costume research and found parts ID
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Unfortunately, I don’t currently have plans to sell just the files. Perhaps in the future, but I’m deep into manufacturing them in metal at the moment.Hey Man, would love a copy of these 3d files
Also, this is accurate. The gun is still a work in progress as I’m waiting for better pics of the prop to be released. Got the basic form down, but don’t want to keep falling into the trap of having to completely rework it when new pictures get released haha.
Mattman1138
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Do you have plans to offer the gun, sticky bombs, and holder on Etsy or by dm?
I’m offering the sticky bombs and holder right now via DM. Don’t know about the gun until finish modeling it.
Toa Quarax
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Toa Quarax
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A few pages from The Art of The Batman posted by Two Faced Fool/@DSweevilon Twitter, who Walmart sent the book to early by mistake, I guess:
Thanks to Roberto Gonzalez for sharing the pages in the The Batman 2021 (costume sourcing group) on Facebook.
Thanks to Roberto Gonzalez for sharing the pages in the The Batman 2021 (costume sourcing group) on Facebook.
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Toa Quarax
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I think I found the elusive front left pouch: the "Protec Tactical Smart Phone pouch" (SKU PT20) manufactured by MC Products UK Ltd.
If you compare it to the pouch on the Batsuit displayed (currently?) at Toy Sapiens in Tokyo, the Protec pouch looks like it has the same distinctively shaped flap, folds on the bottom edges, fabrics, placement of the stitching lines, etc. If you look closely at the suit's pouch, you can even see evidence of the tab having been removed, just like on the holster:
The only problem is the way it attaches to the belt. The pictures of the (same) Batsuit on display in London clearly show that the pouch is attached with a simple strap that snaps onto the pouch (and you can also see another random strap with a snap hanging behind the pouch):
The Protec pouch, on the other hand, uses a Klick Fast system belt mount:
It definitely could just have been modified by the costume department for the movie. I'll still try asking MC Products if they ever made a version without the Klick Fast dock, though. There's also a second, larger version of the pouch available: the "Protec XL Smart Phone pouch" (SKU PT21), which uses the same product shots as the smaller PT20, plus this new one:
Based on my incredibly rough attempts at measuring the costume's pouch from photos, I think they probably used the PT20, but I'm really not sure. It does look to me like the Batsuit pouch has more space in it than the pouch in the product shots, so maybe that's the PT20 pictured in both listings and they really used the PT21 in the movie, but then why would only the PT21's listing have that picture of the one that looks smaller? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
While on the topic of the belt's gear, another thing you can see in those pictures from London and Tokyo is a seam line on the ring part of the baton/flashlight ring holder, which means that it's likely made of plastic:
Ring holders with identical-looking rings seems to be sold under a number of different brand names. Here's a few different listings:
So, you could probably just take the clip or ring out of those and insert the plastic ring from one of the baton/flashlight ring holders. The size of some things on the Protec products (at least in the product shots) don't seem quite right to me, but I still ordered one of each and a ring holder to try and see what they look like together.
They also showed this page in The Batman behind-the-scenes footage at DC FanDome 2021:
A shame none of these notes showed up in the movie, assuming they are supposed to be from Bruce's journal; maybe they're just really elaborate concept art.
Edit: based on the longer-looking flap and the extra space the Batsuit pouch seems to have, I now think it’s probably the bigger pouch.
If you compare it to the pouch on the Batsuit displayed (currently?) at Toy Sapiens in Tokyo, the Protec pouch looks like it has the same distinctively shaped flap, folds on the bottom edges, fabrics, placement of the stitching lines, etc. If you look closely at the suit's pouch, you can even see evidence of the tab having been removed, just like on the holster:
The only problem is the way it attaches to the belt. The pictures of the (same) Batsuit on display in London clearly show that the pouch is attached with a simple strap that snaps onto the pouch (and you can also see another random strap with a snap hanging behind the pouch):
The Protec pouch, on the other hand, uses a Klick Fast system belt mount:
It definitely could just have been modified by the costume department for the movie. I'll still try asking MC Products if they ever made a version without the Klick Fast dock, though. There's also a second, larger version of the pouch available: the "Protec XL Smart Phone pouch" (SKU PT21), which uses the same product shots as the smaller PT20, plus this new one:
Based on my incredibly rough attempts at measuring the costume's pouch from photos, I think they probably used the PT20, but I'm really not sure. It does look to me like the Batsuit pouch has more space in it than the pouch in the product shots, so maybe that's the PT20 pictured in both listings and they really used the PT21 in the movie, but then why would only the PT21's listing have that picture of the one that looks smaller? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
While on the topic of the belt's gear, another thing you can see in those pictures from London and Tokyo is a seam line on the ring part of the baton/flashlight ring holder, which means that it's likely made of plastic:
Ring holders with identical-looking rings seems to be sold under a number of different brand names. Here's a few different listings:
- 8.0US $ 20% OFF|ROCOTACTICAL Baton Ring Holder, Basketweave, D/C Cell Flashlight Holder for Duty Belt, Slide on Style| | - AliExpress
- Streamlight Ring Holder-SL20XP/SL20X/35X Mfg# 22911 – OpticsandAmmo.com | Hunting, Shooting, Sport Optics and Ammunition Products with Free Shipping
- Buy Compact Flashlight Holder(Open Top) 1680 Denier Nylon Ballistic+ Flashlight Ring Strap Holder Nylon Webbing Hold Mag Lite and Other D/C Cell Flashlights Online in Indonesia. B095LHSDH5
- Armymania ΗΗ-4357 Flashlight & Baton Ring
- Uncle Mike's Nylon D Cell Flashlight Holder
- https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/82952938
- Synthetic Leather Baton Ring Holder (Gold, Nickel or Black Snaps) - West Coast Uniforms and Accessories -
- Police Duty Nylon Baton Ring Holder by Dakota Sports. Supplier from Pakistan
- Amazon.com: Magnum Gear 1 Flashlight Baton Ring Holder Ballistic Nylon C/D Cell Compatible : Sports & Outdoors
- Durable Baton Ringer Holder Army Military Tactical Police Nylon Baton Ring Holder Tactical Gear - Buy Baton Ring Police Baton Ring Special Unit Baton Ring Baton Expandable Police Army Batons Military Tactical Batons Other Police,Ring Main Unit Baton Police Baton Baton Ring With Button Baton Holder For Police Baton Holder Telescopic Baton Anti Riot Baton,Ring Shank Button Nightstick Baton Ring Police Baton Extendable Baton Pocket Baton Security Baton Tactical Baton Retractable Product on Alibaba.com
- MTP Plastic baton holder ring for police belt | MTP tactical
So, you could probably just take the clip or ring out of those and insert the plastic ring from one of the baton/flashlight ring holders. The size of some things on the Protec products (at least in the product shots) don't seem quite right to me, but I still ordered one of each and a ring holder to try and see what they look like together.
They also showed this page in The Batman behind-the-scenes footage at DC FanDome 2021:
A shame none of these notes showed up in the movie, assuming they are supposed to be from Bruce's journal; maybe they're just really elaborate concept art.
Edit: based on the longer-looking flap and the extra space the Batsuit pouch seems to have, I now think it’s probably the bigger pouch.
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NZ17
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Good find! It looks like the correct size is the one that is shown on the police vest, since the flap goes down lower than the one shown in the other pictures. The problem is that the pages for the regular and the XL both show the same set of pics, so you can't tell which one is shown on the vest.
As far as the screen used pouch appearing to have more space, they probably just stretched it out. The toys show a pair of hinged handcuffs, and a set I found has a width of 3.2". The XL pouch has a max phone width of 90mm (3.54"), and the regular has a max phone width of 67mm (2.64"). It would have to be the XL size to fit the hinged handcuffs.
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Toa Quarax
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A loop of fabric that probably connects to the inner belt. You can see a tiny bit of poking out from behind the buckle in this image:
Toa Quarax
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A few more and some in slightly higher quality:
Thanks to Eric Lavik and Keith Hernandez from the Facebook group for the nice screenshots. Here's a link to watch it, but it seems to only be available in the US for now: Watch Unpacking the Icons | Prime Video
Edit: it’s on YouTube now:
Thanks to Eric Lavik and Keith Hernandez from the Facebook group for the nice screenshots. Here's a link to watch it, but it seems to only be available in the US for now: Watch Unpacking the Icons | Prime Video
Edit: it’s on YouTube now:
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Toa Quarax
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I wish I could watch it, but it's not available to watch in Canada for some reason.
Here's a few observations:
I don't recognize all of the gear here, but I do see a pair of a pair of folding handcuffs in the back and some zip cuffs in the front. Maybe the hand cuffs were used for Penguin's hands and the zip cuffs for his legs.
This shot shows two contact lens docks for the Batcomputer/laptop (odd choice to put in the lineup), the flashlight he uses in the orphanage and Riddler's apartment (unfortunately mostly out of view), a fabric something (maybe the bag for Penguin's head), and some kind of belt holder I don't recognize. Also interesting is that the snap on the belt's flashlight/baton holder looks to be silver here, instead of black like on the suit that were displayed in the London, and Tokyo:
You can also see a remnant of the tab on the Protec pouch and clearly see the difference in texture between the fabric flare holder and leather UV light holder on the back of the belt, as well as the way the belt connects to itself at the back of the suit.
A case with circuit board-looking things in it that I can't remember. Maybe it's for the contact lenses he gives to Selina, but they don't show him taking them out of anything in the movie. I wonder if that and the case for the earpiece are supposed to be kept in the double speedloader pouch.
This shot gives us a great close-up of the Fidlock female Snap fasteners for the chest piece or cape (might be better for the cape, based on the way they're facing). Weirdly, some of the finer details don't seem to perfectly match, but I still think they used article number 05450-000002(BLK): "SNAP female S sewable":
There's also some straps running underneath the neck armor that I don't think we've seen before. It looks like the strap on the left attaches to the velcro on the front of the chest. Maybe these straps are also connected to the straps on the back we've seen on some figures, which I assume are part of the way the cape attaches.
This mechanism seen here is very interesting. If you look at the close-up of the grapple launcher from the scene in the Iceberg Lounge, the mechanism is different:
I wonder what the deal is with that. The one in the close-up what's depicted on the Hot Toys and Mezco Toys figures, so I guess it's the "canon" version. Also, the Fidlock V-Buckle is cut off at the part that would let us identify which one they used, so that's annoying. I wonder if it's not even a real V-Buckle, but a cast piece instead.
The section with the snaps for the belt on this shirt is slightly different from the bullet-ridden one from the end of the movie seen in The Art of The Batman, and it also seems to be missing the belt hook:
This is the suit that was on display as part of the tour in the US. The weathering on the belt can be easily matched:
I think the small UV light he used when looking at the rat maze is the only one of Batman’s tools that’s missing.
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To anyone still looking for the backpack, I’ve just seen a very similar looking one in the airport. I’ve looked at some set photos as a comparison and overall it looks like a cheap dupe of whatever was actually used. Happy to be proven wrong but I hope this helps. The brand is Aerlis and comes up on Aliexpress and the like. Closest I’ve seen but is missing a circular piece of hardware from the front pocket.
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NZ17
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Robert mentions that the first time the grapple was used was the only time it ever worked perfectly. Perhaps they made the simpler Taxi Driver style so they could keep filming without issues.
On the "hero version", the gun seems to actually fold below the reel to wrap around the grapple in the retracted position, thus sitting more out of the way. Also, the "hero version" uses a shorter track since the mechanism swings out at the front.
Looking back at the image from the Iceberg Lounge, I believe that the rail actually goes back farther than the gauntlet, but was filmed to hide this. The gun is rigidly attached to the sliding bar, so when it starts in the retracted position, it must be sticking far down his arm.
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