TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2)

Here's a behind the scenes photo of the 'Maz' Saber (this is presumably from the scene where she hands it to Leia) :

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To my eyes, it looks like the glass eye has its knurling removed, yes? I think I see smooth brass. So 2nd hero as used outside in daylight by Finn, nighttime in snow by Finn/Rey, and on Isle of Skye by Rey? And this would be the first evidence of it being used in an indoor scene if so.

Also, this is the first time this 2nd hero's circuit card is seen, and just like the #1/Maz/Chest/Indoor hero (phew, I hope we can settle on what to call these soon), it has its thin traces to the LEFT. That just leaves the CGI (and I believe Roy mentioned Launch Bay) saber as having a card with thin traces to the right...
 
I'm so confused. If the naming of a lightsaber is based upon who had it longest... All of this is mute. It's ______'s lightsaber. (Wait for it below)

Think about it:

Anakin Skywalker built this lightsaber presumably in his twenties. Has it for a few years before Obi-Wan cuts off his hand and takes it from him.

Obi-Wan Kenobi has this lightsaber in his possession for 19 years. Obi-Wan gives it to Luke Skywalker.

Luke Skywalker has it for 3 years before losing it after Darth Vader cut his hand off and it fell into the workings of Cloud City on Bespin.

Groggin, an ugnaught in Cloud City, has it for a day before Darth Vader kills him for it.

Darth Vader has it for a very short period of time before the Emperor makes him store it in Mount Tantiss on Wayland.

Joruss C'baoth breaks out of prison on Mount Tantiss and ends up with it five years later and gives it to Luuke Skywalker (the clone). Luuke Skywalker is defeated by Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker and Luke gives it to Mara Jade.

Mara Jade has it for 31 years. Jacen Solo kills Mara Jade and takes this lightsaber from her.

And somehow Maz Kanata ends up with it and has it for ? years.

Rey goes into Maz Kanata's basement and touches the lightsaber and flips out and vows to never touch it again and wants nothing to do with it.

Maz Kanata gives the lightsaber to Finn with instructions to find Rey and give it to her. So he has it for what, a couple of days?

Finn fights Kylo Ren with it and gets his spine augmented during the melee and loses it to a pile of snow.

Rey Force calls it to her from out of the snow pile before Kylo Ren can retrieve it and defeats him with it. She's had it for all of what, 10 minutes?

Rey hops in the Millenium Falcon with Chewbacca and R2-D2 to chase down Luke Skywalker and give it back to him like it's a potato made out of lava!

So, until we figure out exactly how long Maz Kanata had it in her basement... going by years of ownership... it Mara Jade's lightsaber.

Welcome to 1984 fellow geeks, I mean 2016, I mean 40+ABY, your history has been rewritten!!!

And SPOILER ALERT :



Rey is a Kenobi! via Ben Ostrower https://medium.com/@benostrower/rey-is-a-kenobi-362b5af09849#.ruxouiiis



Though I do get the hysteria you are all suffering from over which lightsaber is which, and what way is more accurate than the other way, let me share this story with you:

When I went to see Star Wars Episode VII The Force awakens for the first time I had my GRAFLEX based, not screen accurate grips, lightsaber with me on my fairly accurate Luke in ANH belt. The first reaction I had was from a lady in her 70's who was seated next to me in the theater. What was her reaction when I saw her worried and bug-eyed staring at my lightsaber after I sat down next to her you ask? Well, I unclipped it and presented it to her butt end first so she could get a better look at it and she said "You're not going to shoot me with that are you?". No foolin'! She was very serious. I had to smile even more broadly than I was and explain what the prop was originally and how she was surrounded by a bunch of geeks and that she was in no danger whatsoever from our kind of folk. I clipped it back on my belt and she settled down and the movie started and that was the end of that. Once the movie ended and everyone was standing up, streching their legs and getting their coats on, I looked down and saw a different person all bug-eyed looking at my lightsaber. This time though it was amazement that had his little eyes popping out of his head in the row in front of mine. I gave him a nod, zipped up my coat and strode out of the theater. Out in the lobby, there was a young couple sitting right by the Force Awakens poster and I asked the young woman if she'd take my picture with me standing by the poster. She slid way over thinking I simply wanted her out of the way. I told her that I was asking if she'd take my picture and gestured to her with my camera. Finally she caught on to the idea and kindly took my picture. Her boyfriend was looking at my lightsaber and I handed it to him. "Lightsabers ARE real!" he said. "I can't believe how heavy it is!" He handed it back to me, I told them the history of the prop and thanked her again for taking my photo and left for the parking lot.

So, the moral of the story is this... Unless you're handing your lightsaber over to some other geek who's sitting there with a micrometer in his hand, NO ONE IS GOING TO QUESTION THAT IT ISN'T CORRECT!!!

Through the Force, which surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds us all together, all lightsabers are real.

One Nation, under Jedi, with lightsabers and the Force for All. ~Ridire Fíréan
 
Wait a minute, did I miss something? How did we establish the flying CGI lightsaber has a mirrored card with right hand traces from that blurry picture?
 
I'm so confused. If the naming of a lightsaber is based upon who had it longest... All of this is mute. It's ______'s lightsaber.

The phrase is 'The point is Moot'. The correct word is Moot, not Mute. Hopefully that was an autocorrect and you're not really saying 'It's a Mute point'.

Groggin, an ugnaught in Cloud City, has it for a day before Darth Vader kills him for it.

Darth Vader has it for a very short period of time before the Emperor makes him store it in Mount Tantiss on Wayland.

Joruss C'baoth breaks out of prison on Mount Tantiss and ends up with it five years later and gives it to Luuke Skywalker (the clone). Luuke Skywalker is defeated by Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker and Luke gives it to Mara Jade.

Mara Jade has it for 31 years. Jacen Solo kills Mara Jade and takes this lightsaber from her.

This must be a dream you had, because none of this happened.
 
She was canon... until Disney threw it in Vader's pyre and burned it out of existence.

Then they pulled Vader's helmet out of the ashes and somehow made Vader speak to Ben (who should be a Skywalker, not a Solo) apparently and drove him to the Dark Side (even though Anakin was redeemed in the Force and returned through it in the Light Side at the end of Return of the Jedi.

James, no auto-correct, just me typing too quickly and not paying attention to the typo. Thanks for catching it! Your mai hiro! :)
 
Wait a minute, did I miss something? How did we establish the flying CGI lightsaber has a mirrored card with right hand traces from that blurry picture?

It hasn't been established with certainty. The Launch Bay saber has it, and it could be that the flying CGI saber has them. I'm leaning that way. But you're right. We can't say for sure. Even with a 4K release, there's motion blur with the flying saber that could prevent a clear determination. And now that a pic has surfaced (deleted scene of Maz handing saber to Leia) of the long-grip hero having thin traces from the bottom left of each thick trace, I would prefer to keep it simpler and use that version of the card regardless of which version of the saber I build.
 
It hasn't been established with certainty. The Launch Bay saber has it, and it could be that the flying CGI saber has them. I'm leaning that way. But you're right. We can't say for sure. Even with a 4K release, there's motion blur with the flying saber that could prevent a clear determination. And now that a pic has surfaced (deleted scene of Maz handing saber to Leia) of the long-grip hero having thin traces from the bottom left of each thick trace, I would prefer to keep it simpler and use that version of the card regardless of which version of the saber I build.

Gotcha, thanks. In my opinion there is plenty of evidence now to say the left handed traces are the way to go as they are overwhelmingly dominant in the film and certainly the way it was intended to be, launch bay props aside. It is still possible that the cards were mirrored on both sides and the launch bay props have them upside down though. Best case would be for Sloth and Roy to do new cards that are mirrored on each side so we can pick which one we want, but if I had to pick only one I would definitely go left handed with the thick traces toward the lever.
 
None of that stuff posted about what happened to Lukes saber after Empire is cannon. That's all crap from the EU novels and such. Disney has stated that non of it ever happened and it's all just stories. Soooooo how Maz got it is still 100% a mystery.
 
She's not canon so who cares. Hahahahahaha! ;) *runs for cover*


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None of that stuff posted about what happened to Lukes saber after Empire is cannon. That's all crap from the EU novels and such. Disney has stated that non of it ever happened and it's all just stories..


Disneys decision-bull****, who cares about that.

The stories are out there, the good and the bad, they create a complete universe.
TFA just managed to bring me 1x into the cinema, and it created no wish to see it a second time (maybe later at home from bluray). Just for the visual SW feeling, the story means nothing to me, no feelings for it.

Same as with the new StarTreks. Somehow JarJar Abrams sucks every time. :lol
 
Regardless of how one feels about the EU, or Disney, or The Force Awakens, we're talking about a prop from the movie The Force Awakens. And we all know that in this prop's story line the EU never happened. So EU is pretty far off topic here.
 
TFA Graflex screenshots bluray

I just went through the movie and got the cleanest screenshots to be used as references. I'm new here, so its all posted in an Imgur album and you can only attach 10. Have fun!

http://imgur.com/a/lLf51
 

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