Wait, you think Shakespeare's work was all about uplifting stories? Ok.. Regardless, I understand the point, I just hate that argument. No one working in the arts is Shakespeare so don't bother. He's gone, but Michael Bay is still going strong.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
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Wait, you think Shakespeare's work was all about uplifting stories? Ok.. Regardless, I understand the point, I just hate that argument. No one working in the arts is Shakespeare so don't bother. He's gone, but Michael Bay is still going strong.
KrangPrime
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nonono....I was just referring to the fact that SP has this reputation of being the cream of the crop in his field.....and...what the ***** are we still talking about now? ;o)
Anyway, has that Monk guy done ANY voice acting? the only other thing I've seen him in is Galaxy Quest and he played basically the same character
KrangPrime
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taking bets right now that Splinter has OCD tendencies. Wonder what the over under is on that?
crabra comander
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The faces are growing on me. I think I agree with the uncanny valley theory. It was a bit off putting at first. Still not expecting much from this movie.
And what's up with Knoxville? Just weird choice all around. Even though I could see him as Casey Jones.
You guys keep talking about Shakespeare, I know he did direct the 1990 TMNT film...
This is the exact same reason why Annoying Orange is so creepy to me...
And what's up with Knoxville? Just weird choice all around. Even though I could see him as Casey Jones.
You guys keep talking about Shakespeare, I know he did direct the 1990 TMNT film...
This is the exact same reason why Annoying Orange is so creepy to me...
MooMooEgg
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GiovanniDekkers
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Why does Leonardo remind me Michael Jay White?
Michael Bay's (or whoever gets the blame for this flick) changes are totally canned stuff. Take it all a notch bigger, cook for $200 million, and serve as a summer tentpole. There is no dramatic rhyme or reason to it. It's clearly just, "Take it all bigger and more like Transformers, that'll work."
He took the original 5ft tall turtles and made them more like 7 feet tall. But if the original Turtles had been 7 feet tall then he would be remaking them 12 feet tall in this movie.
If the original turtles had been as human-like as these turtles are in the trailer, then he would have been remaking them another notch more human-like.
If the scope of the original turtles' adventures had been as epic as this trailer looks, then he would be making the movie another notch bigger still. Etc.
He took the original 5ft tall turtles and made them more like 7 feet tall. But if the original Turtles had been 7 feet tall then he would be remaking them 12 feet tall in this movie.
If the original turtles had been as human-like as these turtles are in the trailer, then he would have been remaking them another notch more human-like.
If the scope of the original turtles' adventures had been as epic as this trailer looks, then he would be making the movie another notch bigger still. Etc.
KrangPrime
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Peter Laird has responded..... I think he's holding back because he knows Kevin is working on it...and the two just got chummy again recently...
TMNT Creator Peter Laird Doesn't Like The New Designs Either | Badass Digest
He addresses most of the concerns fans have expressed since the designs were revealed.
He addresses most of the concerns fans have expressed since the designs were revealed.
joshvanrad
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My hatred is justified...
KrangPrime
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whoops, sorry...
he replied to the trailer with comments or an interview..
EXCLUSIVE: TMNT Co-Creator Peter Laird Shares Thoughts On New TMNT Trailer
This whole movie premise would not have been greenlit if peter laird had been in charge..never mind he design change.
he replied to the trailer with comments or an interview..
EXCLUSIVE: TMNT Co-Creator Peter Laird Shares Thoughts On New TMNT Trailer
This whole movie premise would not have been greenlit if peter laird had been in charge..never mind he design change.
The Michael Bays & studio heads don't seem to understand that the whole concept of TMNT is one big liability to begin with. Turtles . . . cool? Heroes . . . mutated green chemicals? Their leader . . . a mutated rat?
On paper that premise wouldn't have passed the lame test with most 8yo kids. It worked because Eastman & Laird originally envisioned it as a gritty 1980s R-rated martial arts movie. Remove that gritty movie feel, and TMNT absolutely will not work IMO.
Granted, TMNT did work as a cheesy kids' cartoon. But I don't think that covers it. There is also a successful kids cartoon about a talking sponge, and yet I don't see anyone trying to make a PG-13 summer blockbuster out of it.
On paper that premise wouldn't have passed the lame test with most 8yo kids. It worked because Eastman & Laird originally envisioned it as a gritty 1980s R-rated martial arts movie. Remove that gritty movie feel, and TMNT absolutely will not work IMO.
Granted, TMNT did work as a cheesy kids' cartoon. But I don't think that covers it. There is also a successful kids cartoon about a talking sponge, and yet I don't see anyone trying to make a PG-13 summer blockbuster out of it.
crabra comander
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They have really blown everything out of proportion...Shredder will have to be in an exo suit to withstand the turtle giants...One cannonball and Shredder would be crushed! It will be interesting to see how that fight plays out...on Redbox
KrangPrime
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I honestly don't see WHY people think that things need to be dark and gritty these days to be 'cool'. Spongebob HAD a movie...it doesn't need to be PG-13 in order for kids or adults to like it. same goes for Turtles. I think the people who go for the 'gritty' argument are just folks who aren't fans of the property and just want to see it confirm to their standards in order for it to work for them.
hence why with these bay movies, we'll have a whole new generation of 'fans' who will bash any version of the property that isn't the 'true bay version'. They won't be fans of the turtles, they'll be fans of bay turtles.
Just once I'd like to see Hollywood do a straight on tv to movie adaption. Ideas in their original interpretation can work for any audience if the right person is behind it.
You get it:I always thought the whole idea of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" was just...dumb,very dumb.
Now maybe if you did a dark,crazy kung-fu movie type of deal with a lot of fights and death then,yea it's a dark comedy of the action and martial arts crazy of the 80's.
It's funny how back then they got real good at making a TV cartoon into a half hour commercial for a companies products,looking at it they didn't do that with 60's stuff like say Johnny Quest,or Thunderbirds;same for most of the 70's but in the late 70's early 80's they perfected tying kid's TV to products to maximize $$$$$ and they LOVED it.
Unfortunately most of the shows were junk,and stupid as hell to boot since next to product sales the next big thing was "public service announcements" or neat little brainwashing bits telling young lads and ladies what was expected of them and how to act.
If you realize that then you can see why Hollywood loves the 80's it's big,BIG bucks for the stupid masses to spend!
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