T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread

[gizmo]

Yeah that’s him. I much prefer the shorter look. The neck especially looks silly now. You see it more in this pic.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah, you're right. Why did they change that?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Well, it still looked like that back in 2010 when it was up for auction at Profiles in History. So whoever made the alterations... it happened after that. I'll try to find more pictures from that auction.

 

[gizmo]

Nice catch!! Looks sooo much more menacing.

Ben

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I am not certain, but it also seems that they actually drilled extra holes in the battery cover... or whatever people are calling that vertical piece that covers the spine and tugs in under the rectangular piece I've been searching for, for a while now... and rounded out some of the already existing ones. Who the F does that to an original prop?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

They are showing off the endo in this video:

 

[gizmo]

It’s a good high quality video that one. I forgot all about that. Back when it auctioned I watched it so many times. It looks so much more menacing there too. I’m sure there’s pics from when it was at planet Hollywood also.

Ben

 

[gizmo]

Here’s a couple of him at Planet Hollywood.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Quartz posted a picture of that one some pages back to show the production style front cover, which is similar to T1, whereas the T2:3D style is the one we mostly knows from licensed props. I hope he doesn't mind me re-posting it here, so it's together with the others.

He dubbed all the T2 endos... this one is Slash.

 

[ghostman]

Cool.

Did a little more 3D scanning. I did these following pieces:

Ankle Joint - the very bottom of the shin section. It's drilled straight through, but in the T1 video it should be a ball joint piece, but I cannot wrap my head around how that would look on the inside.

Lower Arm - I scanned the piece that connects to the elbow and think it turned out decent.

Shoulder Connector - I scanned both left and right piece as the cable holes are not on the same side, but opposite between the two. And when looking at them front on, they are not straight from top to bottom, instead they angle a little to one side. Is that to give a more normal shoulder posture? I will have to check if that is accurate to the originals.

I'm going to use these scans and do a retopology pass in Blender for the complicated models and then clean things up and fix the grooves and details. Time to hit some youtube videos.

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The scan arm is a snore.
The groove is subtracted with a boolean.

 

[ghostman]

Lower Arm

Some polygons are distorted when boolean operations are performed.
I fixed them by hand.
The edges will be sweet and rounded.
Add edge loops to the areas you want to bring out the sharpness.
The topology is not yet beautiful, so some of the polygons are still twitching.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Thanks man. Yeah... I'm doing a simplified and time-consuming newbie version of your first step with the boolean - cutting the shapes out of the model using other models shaped to the surface. I have not yet learned all the other stuff.

And just wondering: have you seen the Tomenosuke Shoten shop endoskeleton up close?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Found this picture online. Stated it was from T4... but I'm not so sure. Anyone know about this piece?

 

[gizmo]

Pretty sure that is T4. From memory they made a heap like that for the sky net factory scenes. No chrome plating just sprayed on the cheap for the background.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Oh, cool. Do you have any pictures of these?

 

[gizmo]

Maybe. I have the T4 making book somewhere. 2 books actually I think. I’ll have a search.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Cool. I also found a pretty cool T1 WIP picture that a guy called Tim Lawrence took during production. I am currently inquiring whether he has more and is willing to share.

 

[ghostman]

Thanks man. Yeah... I'm doing a simplified and time-consuming newbie version of your first step with the boolean - cutting the shapes out of the model using other models shaped to the surface. I have not yet learned all the other stuff.

And just wondering: have you seen the Tomenosuke Shoten shop endoskeleton up close?
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Tome-no-suke is in Japan, but I have never seen the real thing.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

WOAW... those are some awesome pictures. Thanks for sharing.

 

[ghostman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1199216766305460224

Tomenosuke both shoulder are the left shoulder.