T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread

[gizmo]

I’m not sure if the Japanese guy from T-Studio is on here but he makes some pretty cool T1 style endos.

 

[gizmo]

From what I remember his pistons were machined like the T1 Endo and the hands were also fabricated out of metal. I’m trying to find a lot of my old pics at the moment but I’m sure I have pics of his parts breakdown for his hands. I’m friends with him on Facebook and I’m going to contact him soon. Maybe I can get him to come here and join in. I’m not sure how good his English is though.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I found a youtube video of someone showing off one of T-Studio's T1 endoskeletons.

I believe these are from T-Studio's site?

 

[gizmo]

Ah maybe I was mistaken about the hands being metal. It may have been someone else. He definitely needs to be here with us. He is very skilled at this stuff.


Ben

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Absolutely. I've been following him for years. His site is a treasure trove of good info.

It could still be him who did the metal hands. I'm sure he just printed out a set in plastic to see how it looked.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

ghostman: having so many awesome shots of the T1 endoskeleton I haven't seen before, would you happen to have detailed pictures of the elusive T1 rear cover?

This is a picture Quartz posted earlier in the thread which is the clearest shot I have seen so far.

 

[gizmo]

It’s definitely the best I’ve seen of it. Pity it’s so hard to find references of this.

Ben

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah, with Quartz' picture I zeroed in on a detail on the chest piece that had the same look of what is seen at the bottom of the rear cover. So possibly, they pressed the bottom of that piece into the clay there or they embedded the piece with the bottom facing out. I'm wondering whether the holes around the circle perimeter are long screw rods that are on the bottom perimeter edge of the rear cover piece, as why else would they add those holes in that way if not already part of the found piece?

 

[ghostman]

ghostman: having so many awesome shots of the T1 endoskeleton I haven't seen before, would you happen to have detailed pictures of the elusive T1 rear cover?

This is a picture Quartz posted earlier in the thread which is the clearest shot I have seen so far.
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T1 Type

 

[gizmo]

Very cool pics!!

Looks like there’s a T2 Endo arm in the prop store auction.

 

[ghostman]

Those are scapular scans.
The left and right scans are inverted and superimposed, and differences can be seen.
It looks as if the green line portion has been cropped.
What is really going on?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Looking good on the shoulder blades. Maybe the alterations are what is known as recast traits... or... they were just removed because those areas were damaged?

Interestesting to see the T1 picture having that same rear cover as the chromed skull beneath it. Is that the Propstore skull? Hey gizmo - check out the front cover detail. Look familiar?
I would have thought it had the same rear port as the T1 blow-up skull... but guess not.

 

[gizmo]

It does look familiar. Nice.

Ben

 

[Too Much Garlic]

The T1 skull rear cover could still be similar to the blown-up T1 skull. It has the same indent at the front... which the Propstore one also has, even though that one is a different style cover. It's hard to tell.

 

[ghostman]

Its shape is not well known.

 

[ghostman]

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Perhaps it looks something like this?

 

[ghostman]

I am wondering how far we can go to re-create symmetry.

Those are scapular scans.
The left and right scans are inverted and superimposed, and differences can be seen.
It looks as if the green line portion has been cropped.
What is really going on?

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[Too Much Garlic]

Thanks for those pictures. Good angles. That does look the same as the blow-up T1 skull auctioned by Propstore and not the one they own.

Well, for symmetry, you simplify both shapes with the same topology geometry, then mirror one side onto the other and then do a morph kinda thing, so you find the average shape between left and right shoulder blade. But it will only work if the low-poly geometry is the same on both, so the points correspond to the same kind of details on both, so it can easily track where it needs to distort towards. The final result will not match either of them, but will be the perfect averaged shape of the two. This is the procedure roughly as I've had it explained when I had my symmetrical Darth Vader helmet made.

It is a lot of hard work and it may not work if the models are too different in shape. But it's the only way I would ever recommend to make a symmetrical version of something.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Or, you just pick the best version you have and mirror it for the other side.

 

[ghostman]

I know how to make it symmetrical.
I already do it with the EndoScull.
The scapula is not in perfect symmetry.
How much of the scapula should be symmetrical and
Where do we start to change the left and right?
Do we reproduce it up to the trimmed part?
Or do I make that part symmetrical with the shape before it is trimmed?
I am struggling with the balance between the two.