pics please when completed! serious undertaking as well. good luck!
Studio Scale Tyrell Pyramid
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Pyramidrep
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I’ve been trying NOT to do work on this for a while to give myself some head space to deal with other work.
But I finished research of the Close Up front facade and another revision to the drawing about an hour ago. This is Studio Scale 1:1. ( Drawing dimensions 1000 x 600mm ).
2 or 3 small parts yet unidentifiable ( particularity one on the right hand side elevator hood and area left and right of interrogation room. So taking a break for a few weeks .
The acrylic parts are being cut for the buttresses by a new company, which will be my third attempt to get the parts/ framework correct ( and almost a year later from when I thought I would have them finished).
Good advise - with Studio Scale, don’t have self imposed deadlines - Not good for your health.
But I finished research of the Close Up front facade and another revision to the drawing about an hour ago. This is Studio Scale 1:1. ( Drawing dimensions 1000 x 600mm ).
2 or 3 small parts yet unidentifiable ( particularity one on the right hand side elevator hood and area left and right of interrogation room. So taking a break for a few weeks .
The acrylic parts are being cut for the buttresses by a new company, which will be my third attempt to get the parts/ framework correct ( and almost a year later from when I thought I would have them finished).
Good advise - with Studio Scale, don’t have self imposed deadlines - Not good for your health.
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stevielewis
Sr Member
I totally agree. Fantastic!
That looks like that has taken a very LONG time to get just right. Well worth a good break....for your sanity.
I imagine this is the most perfect accurate version of this building, besides the real deal.
I imagine this is the most perfect accurate version of this building, besides the real deal.
Pyramidrep
Sr Member
JediMichael,
I don’t think it was a long time in comparison to the time that has been spent on the 8 foot. The model parts identity are the key and you build an drawing inventory of these. Then from those you can rebuild the detail strips and so on.....
The reference most of model itself can be found online, the Blu-ray, books etc. If you ever get a chance visit the Museum of the Moving Image in New York and see the real thing. it’s publicly available. If I was living in the U.S., I would have gone to see it hundreds of times.
There is a lot of information in that image above if anyone wants to attempt a build.
I mentioned about the difficulties of getting acrylic parts cut to a set of drawings I sent to a number of companies. Trying to get the material cut accurately instead of what I see is more like “The Pirate Code” ( “ we like to see those as kind of guidelines” ) is patience testing.
Incredible detail work. A masterpiece replica of a movie model that had awesome building architecture that rivaled the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans. Blade Runner sure had some talented artists. No doubt in my mind your creation‘s quality is equal or superior. Your drawings ensure a baseline for perfect construction, not to mention no hesitancy in entering rework to faithfully reproduce. What a great thread to watch and learn from.
Pyramidrep
Sr Member
Thanks Folks for the kind & encouraging comments.
Just a note about the research drawing. As an eagle eyed member has noted the girder etch grille on the drawing does not match to the layout on the Studio Scale model. And yes it doesn‘t. The original pattern for the etch grille is made up of different sized lengths of etch, then placed and abutted to each other to provide longer lengths down the facade.
I have followed the original design patterned sheet accurately in a separate drawing and created each piece of etch in what’s termed in CAD as a block, so that each piece acts a a single element within the drawing. Makes it easier to pick, move and place. So if any of the original etch is cut on the studio model, I also have to explode and create seperate little “ blocks” for these. So that’s additional work that not important at the moment because what’s important is that the overall elevator channel width and lenght is filled with the etch. The drawing can be revised some time later.
Please note also that the elaborate pipe work has mostly been left off as well to provide clarity for the placement of model parts and again that will be completed sometime.
And finally, because the drawing is a face- on elevation of the sloped facade, the elevation of the elevator hoods would not be seen exactly like as indicated . This what’s termed as a “ composite drawing”.
You would in reality see a sloped view of the roof and the lower edge would cover some of the detail below. Again i had done a seperate drawing for the hood - plan, section, elevation and if you squint closely at the drawing above you can see a dashed line indicating the extent of how the face of the hood drops down ( because it is extruded off the main facade).
To make it a little more complicated the angled side of each hood are slightly angled outward off the facade plane.
I suspected this was case last year and confirmed it when I saw the prop for real.
I hope this makes sense and not confusing.
Just a note about the research drawing. As an eagle eyed member has noted the girder etch grille on the drawing does not match to the layout on the Studio Scale model. And yes it doesn‘t. The original pattern for the etch grille is made up of different sized lengths of etch, then placed and abutted to each other to provide longer lengths down the facade.
I have followed the original design patterned sheet accurately in a separate drawing and created each piece of etch in what’s termed in CAD as a block, so that each piece acts a a single element within the drawing. Makes it easier to pick, move and place. So if any of the original etch is cut on the studio model, I also have to explode and create seperate little “ blocks” for these. So that’s additional work that not important at the moment because what’s important is that the overall elevator channel width and lenght is filled with the etch. The drawing can be revised some time later.
Please note also that the elaborate pipe work has mostly been left off as well to provide clarity for the placement of model parts and again that will be completed sometime.
And finally, because the drawing is a face- on elevation of the sloped facade, the elevation of the elevator hoods would not be seen exactly like as indicated . This what’s termed as a “ composite drawing”.
You would in reality see a sloped view of the roof and the lower edge would cover some of the detail below. Again i had done a seperate drawing for the hood - plan, section, elevation and if you squint closely at the drawing above you can see a dashed line indicating the extent of how the face of the hood drops down ( because it is extruded off the main facade).
To make it a little more complicated the angled side of each hood are slightly angled outward off the facade plane.
I suspected this was case last year and confirmed it when I saw the prop for real.
I hope this makes sense and not confusing.
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Pyramidrep
Sr Member
I see the number of views to this thread continuing to increase so I thought I better give an update.
Ok. So I took a long break from this for the past 10 weeks or so. Not completely - did several more searches for unidentified model parts - found and obtained 3 more small pieces.
I also revised the buttress light patterns again.
I started again to revise the drawing that see above in post #242 to make some corrections to elevator hoods ( which I deduced their outer face do not run parallel to the main slope of the facade ) and some other minor corrections. I will show you this when it’s corrected and hopefully that‘s enough for me to build to level of detail I can be happy with.
I also had a family friend from the UK delivered a package of Plastruct angles and channel this morning for this.
I will be back in a week or two with a proper progress update and and will also explain why the little (unused) detailed piece in my hand below ( built back in January) caused me to pause work. I think it may be called Studio Scale Project Creep ( an illness that you can be prone to when you take on this kind of work)
BTW. Welcome back John Marchant. Good to see you’re here again.
Ok. So I took a long break from this for the past 10 weeks or so. Not completely - did several more searches for unidentified model parts - found and obtained 3 more small pieces.
I also revised the buttress light patterns again.
I started again to revise the drawing that see above in post #242 to make some corrections to elevator hoods ( which I deduced their outer face do not run parallel to the main slope of the facade ) and some other minor corrections. I will show you this when it’s corrected and hopefully that‘s enough for me to build to level of detail I can be happy with.
I also had a family friend from the UK delivered a package of Plastruct angles and channel this morning for this.
I will be back in a week or two with a proper progress update and and will also explain why the little (unused) detailed piece in my hand below ( built back in January) caused me to pause work. I think it may be called Studio Scale Project Creep ( an illness that you can be prone to when you take on this kind of work)
BTW. Welcome back John Marchant. Good to see you’re here again.
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joberg
Legendary Member
Welcome to the Club Searun
It's never done-done, as you said...but that's us, the Makers As long as the spectators are amazed; it's all smoke and mirrors
Pyramidrep
Sr Member
Didn’t get this pattern quite finished today but it’s nearly there( detailing around the center diamond and the base). This is version 2.5., after the base of the first warped during the summer of 2021. Tried everything to flatten the piece and save the work but eventually just stripped the parts off and started again. This was started again last November ‘21 and has been torturous to do again.
It’s not on a base yet until I find out for definite why the warped occurred. I think it may have be the contacta glue I used to glue the 2mm acrylic base to the styrene. Anyhow the pattern looks ok.
I also lost the finished corner pattern to warping , not once but twice. You can see the warp, cupping of the base in the image below. It being built again
in Answer to the question of the detail piece in my last post, there is very little wrong with the piece.But the tip of an xacto knife broke in one of the drill holes and lifted some of the styrene surface. It’s about 3 hours work and happened at the very end . I couldn’t decide to forget it and just glue it to the main pattern or start again ( nor dump the work). So I left it……. ..for months. It’s highly frustrating, unnerving work dealing with such minute, tiny parts.
It’s not on a base yet until I find out for definite why the warped occurred. I think it may have be the contacta glue I used to glue the 2mm acrylic base to the styrene. Anyhow the pattern looks ok.
I also lost the finished corner pattern to warping , not once but twice. You can see the warp, cupping of the base in the image below. It being built again
in Answer to the question of the detail piece in my last post, there is very little wrong with the piece.But the tip of an xacto knife broke in one of the drill holes and lifted some of the styrene surface. It’s about 3 hours work and happened at the very end . I couldn’t decide to forget it and just glue it to the main pattern or start again ( nor dump the work). So I left it……. ..for months. It’s highly frustrating, unnerving work dealing with such minute, tiny parts.
Pyramidrep
Sr Member
The blade tip is embedded in the separate circular detail piece on the lower right. I rebuilt it again and the new one is on the master. My problem with it was that when I drilled the hole, the tiny piece of metal caused to surface to pinch up and deform a little. Since this is a master pattern and I am going to cast quite a number of resin copies (since it forms most of the buttress roofs and the terraces) you hope to have it as good as possible, perfectly flat and square. It’s not noticeable to some viewers but all I see are the flaws. That’s a symptom Studio Scale modelling. Sometimes it’s best to walk away from it for a while and come at it again in a calm manner.
I haven’t experienced this micro detail modelling before where you work and place most of the detail off the tip of an xacto knife. The more I looked at it, I can see this is the hallmark of work done by Pat McClung, whose detail work on Star Trek, Aliens, Empire Strikes Back, etc. is unsurpassed (IMHO). He worked uncredited on Blade Runner for few months.
Thats looking good.
Also thought that round piece looks a little like the death stars dish (this being Rob's SS). The falcon is already in Blade Runner....why not a little death star.
Also thought that round piece looks a little like the death stars dish (this being Rob's SS). The falcon is already in Blade Runner....why not a little death star.
Pyramidrep
Sr Member
Yep. It does look similar.
There another on the corner of the Pyramid roof , in the same style of detailing.
Nice!
