Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

All this talk about Rey. What about the fact that Finn picked up a saber and held his own against Ren for a significant amount of time, considering Ren is a fully trained dark Jedi and Finn just learned how to correctly hold a blaster.
Ren was playing with him and the moment Finn seemed to have the upper hand he cut the fight short in a heartbeat and sliced up his back. Exactly the same way Vader toyed with Luke in ESB, the moment Luke made a dent on Vader the old guy ended the duel. They even got hurt on the same shoulder. I had no problem with that, actually I thought it was told pretty well visually.
 
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Movie tie in for appliances. Seriously, appliances?
 
All this talk about Rey. What about the fact that Finn picked up a saber and held his own against Ren for a significant amount of time, considering Ren is a fully trained dark Jedi and Finn just learned how to correctly hold a blaster.
That is not actually true. Finn is a fully trained Storm Trooper. So I am sure being trained as such since he was young he can be quite lethal. Also if you remember in TFA the Storm Troopers have been trained in some sort of baton battle that can withstand a blow from a lightsaber. So the fact that he can hold his own is not that far of a stretch.
 
That is not actually true. Finn is a fully trained Storm Trooper. So I am sure being trained as such since he was young he can be quite lethal. Also if you remember in TFA the Storm Troopers have been trained in some sort of baton battle that can withstand a blow from a lightsaber. So the fact that he can hold his own is not that far of a stretch.

Even the ones assigned to waste disposal? He admitted that his first time in battle he dropped his gun and ran from the First Order.
 
That is not actually true. Finn is a fully trained Storm Trooper. So I am sure being trained as such since he was young he can be quite lethal. Also if you remember in TFA the Storm Troopers have been trained in some sort of baton battle that can withstand a blow from a lightsaber. So the fact that he can hold his own is not that far of a stretch.
Fin’s only a fully trained stormtrooper when the film needs him to be. A fully trained stormtrooper who just happens to have worked or been stationed near everything the film needs to get at and destroy.. hes just as much a criminally misused character as Rey or anyone else in these garbage movies

There would have been so much potential for a character fighting to get away from a dark past and struggling with having to kill his old companions knowing they’re still effectively brainwashed just like he was...
Think of a character like Teal'c from Stargate SG1 or something. Instead we got a bumbling idiot whos a repeated plot convenience
 
Fin’s only a fully trained stormtrooper when the film needs him to be. A fully trained stormtrooper who just happens to have worked or been stationed near everything the film needs to get at and destroy.. hes just as much a criminally misused character as Rey or anyone else in these garbage movies

There would have been so much potential for a character fighting to get away from a dark past and struggling with having to kill his old companions knowing they’re still effectively brainwashed just like he was...
Think of a character like Teal'c from Stargate SG1 or something. Instead we got a bumbling idiot whos a repeated plot convenience
Agreed with this, Finn was really underused in TLJ, he was made to play second fiddle to a new character that was added pretty much for the sake of it. Imagine Han being a sidekick to Lando in ESB. I also think that not doing anything with his injury was a missed opportunity. Luke straight away got a fake hand yea but they made it a pretty important motif in the next film.
 
I thought stormtroopers were trained to miss and getting killed! Finn‘s doing pretty well Just staying alive—like a new jar jar!
 
Agreed on that, but sadly it was something again that was never followed up on.


I actually think there will be soma grandiose mental/spiritual/Force team up inside Rey with all the previous masters, ghosts, etc. Most lines in the trailer point towards that. Which if true could further diminish Rey to simply being a vessel for the Force or whatever iterations but since I'm speculating I'm not gonna start lamenting on things that may not even happen, especially that I still try to steer clear from leaks and spoilers.

That was the grand plan George had originally as well. Obi Wan and possibly yoda cross back over to help luke take down the emperor.
 
You have WATCHED the movies and have seen how effective of a shot the stormtroopers are, right?
To be fair to Stormies the only times we really see them missing or being otherwise inept in ANH and ESB are when they are allowing our heros to escape for the purposes of tracking them, or are not actually allowed to kill them per Vader wanting them alive for his own ends.
I make no supporting claims for ROTJ as I feel that’s the very start of where the veneer began to crack in places
 
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Not getting into all the stuff about things that were in the books and comics that should have been on the big screen, but I can't help but feel her location on Jakku will end up being relevant. It was the focus of the Aftermath trilogy (from the Imperial side of the story), and Chuck wouldn't have just pulled all those connections out of his butt -- he worked with what the Story Group gave him. Niima Outpost in TFA is named after Niima the Hutt, who used to have that part of Jakku as her turf during and before the Galactic Civil War. Hidden underground in that area was one of Palpatine's Observatories that he'd begun establishing while he was still Chancellor.

We've only seen a couple in the new ancillary material, and they didn't all serve the same purpose, but they all were called that because, whatever else they did, they all looked outward to the Unknown Regions. Palpatine felt a pull from outside known space, speculated that it might be the source of his power in the Dark Side, sensed there may be some "dark presence" lurking out there, and part of Thrawn's mission to the Unkown Regions was to accumulate navigational and scan data for Palpatine's observatories.

The one on Jakku was the one he purposed for the Contingency. In addition to other elements of that plan that went into action elsewhere, this location housed a replica of his staryacht Imperialis (which Phasma would later scavenge hull plating from to make her armor) and ancient computers from some other civilization containing maps of the Unknown Regions and ongoingly using the data that Thrawn and a series of dispatched probe droids had gathered to chart potential routes ever deeper into that part of the galaxy. Whatever else, this was where the building blocks of the First Order were being gradually accumulated.

There was a borehole to Jakku's core that was meant to be used to destroy the planet and the Rebel and Imperial ships that were to have been lured to battle over it, but that part of the Contingency got foiled. There was also a storehouse of Sith relics and artifacts there, but Palpatine seems to have stashed those everywhere.

Until things potentially play out otherwise, I can't believe Rey -- the only human to have lived in proximity to that place since Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, General Brendol Hux and his son Armitage, and their cadre of child recruits all fled in that Imperialis (each Observatory had one) -- just happens to be the focus of whatever this awakening of the Force is, with no connection between the two. With Palpatine returning in some form, that makes me suspect her home for a decade is no coincidence.
 
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