Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

I have a feeling the character would be better served on a Disney+ series about the adventures of the Resistance.

There it is. She is more of a TV series character. No problem at all with the actress, and it's gross that she got all the crap she did, but Rose Tico--the character--sucks. I really like TLJ, but I don't feel it benefited at all from having Rose in it.
 
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Personally I don't understand the hate for Rose Tico. I actually really liked her.

I didn't like her because her character was useless and far over used. The entire stupid back story with her sister, and ensuing adventure with Finn (that I actually just skip when re-watching) was so incredibly shoe horned into the movie and offered zero value to the overall story. Then again, that entire Canto Bight scene and going after a code breaker they didn't need was incredibly useless as well. It was all filler. For that matter, I hated DJ as well. It was like they really added that part of the story to give Finn a part. And he should have had SO Much more! Finn got ripped off.

She had nothing to do with the story before. Has nothing to offer. Is bland as my white ass in the middle of winter. And anything added moving forward will be forced in because too many people bitched about her needlessly, and more importantly, bitched about the actress for absolutely no good reason.

That's why I didn't like her. But of course if you like her, I'm genuinely curious what it is about her that you find appealing. I'm certainly not judging anyone who does like her.
 
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I didn't like her because her character was useless and far over used. The entire stupid back story with her sister, and ensuing adventure with Finn (that I actually just skip when re-watching) was so incredibly shoe horned into the movie and offered zero value to the overall story. Then again, that entire Canto Bight scene and going after a code breaker they didn't need was incredibly useless as well. It was all filler. For that matter, I hated DJ as well. It was like they really added that part of the story to give Finn a part. And he should have had SO Much more! Finn got ripped off.

She had nothing to do with the story before. Has nothing to offer. Is bland as my white ass in the middle of winter. And anything added moving forward will be forced in because too many people bitched about her needlessly, and more importantly, bitched about the actress for absolutely no good reason.

That's why I didn't like her. But of course if you like her, I'm genuinely curious what it is about her that you find appealing. I'm certainly not judging anyone who does like her.

Her character was stupid, her story was stupid. But her as a person we can’t talk bad about, she’s only doing what’s she’s being told
 
I didn't like her because her character was useless and far over used. The entire stupid back story with her sister, and ensuing adventure with Finn (that I actually just skip when re-watching) was so incredibly shoe horned into the movie and offered zero value to the overall story. Then again, that entire Canto Bight scene and going after a code breaker they didn't need was incredibly useless as well. It was all filler. For that matter, I hated DJ as well. It was like they really added that part of the story to give Finn a part. And he should have had SO Much more! Finn got ripped off.

She had nothing to do with the story before. Has nothing to offer. Is bland as my white ass in the middle of winter. And anything added moving forward will be forced in because too many people bitched about her needlessly, and more importantly, bitched about the actress for absolutely no good reason.

That's why I didn't like her. But of course if you like her, I'm genuinely curious what it is about her that you find appealing. I'm certainly not judging anyone who does like her.

Rose is basically Finn's shoulder angel, to DJ's shoulder devil. If you haven't seen it yet I highly recommend watching Just Write's 'The Last Jedi and the 7 Basic Questions of Narrative Drama'. Very informative little video essay.

But really I just like Rose. Something about her bubbly attituded that just really draws me to her, which is basically how Kelly Marie Tran is in real life. And as I see it, her back story with her sister sets up how she reacts when she finds Finn tying get in an escape pod. Her sister just gave her life for this resistance, and here's Finn, who she thought was this great hero, trying to get away from the resistance, because it's doomed.
 
I had no problem with Rose as a character. In a better written film she wouldn't have gone off to find the code breaker. She would have been the code breaker. That would have eliminated the DJ character and the whole side trip to Canto Bites.

That would completely change the story structure. Rian took the 3 main protagonists, identified their wants and needs. And then gave them characters that enable or support thier wants, and a character that forces them to see and accept their need. Rose is the character that forces Finn to see his need, DJ the one who supports his want. And Canto Bight is Finn's schoolroom.
 
That would completely change the story structure. Rian took the 3 main protagonists, identified their wants and needs. And then gave them characters that enable or support thier wants, and a character that forces them to see and accept their need. Rose is the character that forces Finn to see his need, DJ the one who supports his want. And Canto Bight is Finn's schoolroom.

Except that smacks of not writing a story, but structuring activity for 3 different characters and then writing a story to satisfy that requirement. It's story first and foremost.

it's almost like the Indy joke in BBT - take Indy out and nothing really changes.

Take out rose, and for that matter Canto Bight, and what really changes if there was a code breaker on the ship and they just went right over the same way?

Basically, nothing. The film gets shorter by about 15 minutes. That's it. Finn still goes to the ship, gets captured, faces off with Phasma, wins, returns, etc. Structurally, her presence changes nothing. Now...maybe her payoff is in 9, but as far as 8 goes, largely irrelevant. As you say, the only thing she accomplishes is having a buddy for Finn to hang with in canto bight. That's it.

Not sure I get the point of CB to be honest. They go there to find a special hacker, don't find that guy (least I don't think he was), get 'a' hacker (in theory), who sells them out. If the whole point is to get them captured, just send them over on their own and let them get captured. Add a little ANH roaming the death start aspect and sneaking around. That'd be more interesting and builds the characters and gives them buddy buddy time in the process. At least that makes sense. The odds that they know where in the biggest ship in the galaxy the tiny tracker is and exactly how to get there and can get there quickly are about zero. But, again, sneaking over and finding it servers a purpose. The whole CB process didn't/doesn't seem to serve a purpose really.
 
Rose did later in the film prevent Finn from destroying that laser cannon allowing the first order to break through that huge door.
He was all set to ram that thing, giving his very last minute to the cause and save the Resistance, but she had to ram him and then said something about 'Love being the answer' which really did not ally in this case IMO
 
I enjoy BBT but I disagree with their whole assessment of Raiders. Marion would be dead without Indy. The fact that people have latched onto that idea of Indy annoys me, but I digress.

Canto Bites and Rose suck. Both are lackluster elements to a movie I despise. Honestly I was at least open to the idea of a sequel trilogy before 8, not excited per say but open to it, but 8 just ended it for me. Which in a way I'm glad for because I can just move on and enjoy the OT without even considering anything else. Star Wars was way cooler when it was one trilogy. I'm not a fan of this 9 to 12 part saga concept.

That's just me though. I know others feel different.
 
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