Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

[Scarecrow Joe]

So, any idea when we're getting a real trailer, instead of whatever that was?

As Joek3r said most probable in October. TFA and TLJ both had trailers released in October prior to their premieres. This article explains it in more detail:

Next? When Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker's Full Length Trailer May Be Coming

It could be a while.

www.cinemablend.com

 

[NeoRutty]

Eh never mind.

Star Wars!

 

[Jaitea]

Theres a supposed plot leak on Reddit, which does tie into everything we see in the trailers

Lets just say the movie is like a Dora the Explorer episode

It doesn't sound good

J

 

[sztriki]

Theres a supposed plot leak on Reddit, which does tie into everything we see in the trailers

Lets just say the movie is like a Dora the Explorer episode

It doesn't sound good

J

It may sound weird but I still try and avoid the plot leaks and whatnot. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised in the end.

 

[Psab keel]

Eh never mind.

Star Wars!

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I'm dying! That dog is so freaking adorable I just can't.

 

[Jaitea]

It may sound weird but I still try and avoid the plot leaks and whatnot. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised in the end.

I honestly avoid all leaks & trailers if I can, but I really wish I had known a bit of what I had to witness in the Last Jedi, it wouldn't have upset me as much,....every other film I see, I avoid all potential spoilers

But the ST, I'll make an exception, at least now I can enjoy the effects & (if the leak is true), just laugh along with the cheesy story

I'm glad its the end of this first very uneasy, poorly conceived, step by LFL, without George at the helm,....& look forward to the new products, which seem, so far to be more steady on their feet

J

 

[Apollo]

To bad with the way the are going it will be to an empty theatre.....

I remember reading years ago about a concept where the droids were active participants in the 9 to 12 part saga and the finale was 3PO telling the entire story to an unseen audience.

I always kind of liked that idea as a cap to the whole thing.

 

[Scarecrow Joe]

I always believed Kylo and Rey would join up against Palpatine when Ian was shown in the previos teaser. Its kind of cool actually although Ive always been a fan of Palpatine.....

 

[vader45]

Jeez, so many post of arguing back and forth. You people do realize it’s just a movie right ? A MOVIE for crying out loud. You will always have issues and continuity problems when there was no 9 film plan to begin with. ‘77 Star Wars was meant to be and still is ONE film , rest are all spin offs trying to create a story that was never there in the beginning. ‘77 Star Wars never said “a new hope” or “episode lV” at the beginning until weeks before ESB was released. I remember I was there in 77 to remember all that. So all the fighting on here about any of the PT and ST is pointless because they weren’t even thought of in 77. Lucas never had any intention or story line to make 6 or 9 films, just the 1. Even the book in 76 says “Star Wars - from the adventures of Luke Skywalker “ marvel was the one to take the story beyond SW77 then fox said we need a sequel and then began all the “try to make a story” please peeps stop bickering over a movie.

Actually Lucas intentionally started with EP4 but Fox thought it would confuse audience if the Crawl said episode iv. He had majority of the plot for all 3 OT films but had to cut it down to fit one film and made that film to stand on its own with a begining and end just in case it failed and the other 2 would be scrapped. But it was successful so Lucas got the green light for Empire.

This is all in the 2004 Doc Empire of Dreams.

 

[AJTaliesen]

I honestly avoid all leaks & trailers if I can, but I really wish I had known a bit of what I had to witness in the Last Jedi, it wouldn't have upset me as much,....every other film I see, I avoid all potential spoilers

But the ST, I'll make an exception, at least now I can enjoy the effects & (if the leak is true), just laugh along with the cheesy story

I'm glad its the end of this first very uneasy, poorly conceived, step by LFL, without George at the helm,....& look forward to the new products, which seem, so far to be more steady on their feet

J

I'm the same way. This is the first time I've bothered with the pre release thread. Usually I don't even watch the trailer, but this time I feel like a bit more warning might soften the blow.

 

[jhazard]

Actually Lucas intentionally started with EP4 but Fox thought it would confuse audience if the Crawl said episode iv. He had majority of the plot for all 3 OT films but had to cut it down to fit one film and made that film to stand on its own with a begining and end just in case it failed and the other 2 would be scrapped. But it was successful so Lucas got the green light for Empire.

This is all in the 2004 Doc Empire of Dreams.

How does Alan Dean Foster and "Splinter of the minds eye" fit in to that?

From what I remember, it was released before Empire was announced, and it was intended as a treatment for a sequel.

I loved Empire of Dreams, fwiw, but I don't think it's 100% historically accurate.

 

[Psab keel]

It seems to be a long standing tradition that the history of how these films came to be alters not only by who recounts the tale, but by the creator himself. George is always reinterpreting the creation of his movies as well as what they mean so to constantly quote him as reference to his "original vision" is absurd. Which version was the original because it can't be all of them. That's just not true at all.

Just like the mythic themes in the films so too has their creation become the stuff of legend.

 

[Richard Baker]

How does Alan Dean Foster and "Splinter of the minds eye" fit in to that?

From what I remember, it was released before Empire was announced, and it was intended as a treatment for a sequel.

I loved Empire of Dreams, fwiw, but I don't think it's 100% historically accurate.


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IIRC 'Splinter in the mind's Eye' was intended to be a possible sequel if the first film did not do well but they wanted a low budget followup.

 

[sztriki]

Actually Lucas intentionally started with EP4 but Fox thought it would confuse audience if the Crawl said episode iv. He had majority of the plot for all 3 OT films but had to cut it down to fit one film and made that film to stand on its own with a begining and end just in case it failed and the other 2 would be scrapped. But it was successful so Lucas got the green light for Empire.

This is all in the 2004 Doc Empire of Dreams.

I’m actually reading Rinzler’s Making of book, tons of early drafts and script info in it. It is true that there was a long first act which was very much like the first act of Phantom Menace amd the droids were gonna drop out of the rebel ship in the middle of the story. Plus there was supposed to be a fight between Vader and Luke on the Death Star’s surface at the end making the climax longer. So in that sense yes he did cut large chunks out of the story but it’s not like he had the story of SW/ESB/ROTJ worked out and decided that it’d be a 3 piece movie. That’s just stuff that he retrofitted with what actually went down. Again based on what’s in the Makkng

 

[Psab keel]

At this point the history of the OT's creation is so muddled that I really only pay attention to the broad strokes. Between the different perspectives of the actors, the producers, George always changing his mind, and apparently all the different treatments that have been leaked, discovered, the different completed drafts, only one thing becomes truly clear in all of this.

There may have been a general idea, a vague nebulous concept in George's head for this whole thing, but there was NEVER a concrete, foundation to ANY of it. Most of it was as any film is. A serendipitous collaboration of different talents working together to tell an entertaining story which may have been limited in scope by the constraints of technology, but has stood the test of time.

The fact that it's still as relevant today as it ever was 40 years on is a testament to that. It's also apparent that our fascination with it's creation is also a testament to it's enduring power. The amount of content that is available to us with regard to it's making is actually far longer than the films themselves and you could pour over it's creation for years to which many of us have.

 

[ObiWan_Knievil]

He claims to have come around. Most recently he said he had closure with his character.

I wonder if we'll ever find out Colin had planned, that Mark liked. Cause he's had some odd ideas for his character. Like having Boba Fett be Luke's mom. Or having Luke put on Vader's helmet at the end of ROTJ.

It's amazing what lawyers and threats of lawsuits will do. I'm sure he came around. Just like Batman was able to bring the Joker around in the interview room in The Dark Knight.

-OWK

 

[BorgHive]

star wars TROS poster out now

 

[Frogfreak]

star wars TROS poster out now

Palps looks a little odd in that pic.

 

[Joek3rr]

It's amazing what lawyers and threats of lawsuits will do. I'm sure he came around. Just like Batman was able to bring the Joker around in the interview room in The Dark Knight.

-OWK

So using your analogy.....Mark is manipulating Disney and Lucasfilm.

 

[Psab keel]

So using your analogy.....Mark is manipulating Disney and Lucasfilm.

I think you missed the joke entirely. Mark isn't manipulating anyone. The point was that despite Mark agreeing on the surface it still hasn't changed his feelings about the story no matter what he is saying publicly. He's only complying with Disney's demands because he is contractually obligated to and because he's a proffesional. Just like Batman didn't actually change the Joker's mind in TDK.

Time and again he has ripped on Disney and the new films in very clever and humorous ways throughout his entire return to the character. Careful to mask his true feelings behind a smiling face. Mark truly IS the Joker!!!!!