Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

I'd guess at "Battle of the Whills", "Rise of the Light", " Empire of Darkness" ,

Or ,and this is my favourite,

"Rey for the Win"

(In which she actually dies ,but is brought back to life using Darth Plagues, sorry that's Snokes blood)
 
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I think the title may be held out due to Star Wars lands opening soon in a a Disney Park near you....
 
What if the Vong were to show up in 9?What are your guys thoughts?

Joker, don’t be causing any trouble now

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There's some real logic problems going on here.

First you say that Disney only cares about making money. And that they don't care about making good movies. That's kind of an oxymoron. I mean if you put out bad films your not going to make money. If you make good films your going to make money. This isn't rocket science, Bad movie=little money, good movie=lots of money.

Star Wars isn't Fantastic 4 or Spider-Man where the studio spits out a so-so film every once in awhile so they can keep the filming rights.

The flicks in the oscar hunt aren't usually the ones leading the pack of top grossers for the year, you know?

Good != $$$

Case in point, transformers. All flash, no substance, yet draws a large audience somehow.

WIll Ferrell flicks still get made and somehow apparently make money - no one's going to classify them as good.

You would think if you pay 4B for something you want to keep the quality up and make it something old fans and new fans would like to keep it going, but the decidedly doesn't not seem to be the case. You can easily argue they're rushing them out. I hated to use the standard Marvel comparison, but it's apt (and slightly different)....the time between marvel flicks (IM1 to 2, Avengers 1 to 2 to 3) is typically 3 years. I don't think anyone's gotten more than 2 for any of the SW flicks yet. I laugh when people say they gotta make back the money...they're in the black. George scored 1B in licensing for the prequels. Disney got more for the ST, guaranteed. Plush they're unabashedly slapping the name on anything (lipstick??!?!?). Home video sales are never in the equation either. TFA 2B, TLJ 1.5?, RO nearly 1B i think, Solo 350M. That's pushing 5B and disney forced more than 1/2 the proceeds out of theaters. So Box office + licensing + home video is over 4B.

Again, you would think the suits in castle would realized this is something you want to care for and keep on solid footing as it can basically write massive checks for you as long as you keep it going.

Whether you like the direction or not, you have to acknowledge that there is a large (very large) number of people who do not. That is a problem. And you'd think you'd want to keep that from happening, no? The 'new fans' aren't the ones spending big money on Star Wars stuff either. I can't recall any corporation who took that attitude of 'lets blow off the existing customer base to soley focus on the new one'. Especially when the existing one brings in billions a year in merchandise.
 
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Whether you like the direction or not, you have to acknowledge that there is a large (very large) number of people who do not. That is a problem. And you'd think you'd want to keep that from happening, no? The 'new fans' aren't the ones spending big money on Star Wars stuff either. I can't recall any corporation who took that attitude of 'lets blow off the existing customer base to soley focus on the new one'. Especially when the existing one brings in billions a year in merchandise.
I think Star Trek has done it twice now, and they are currently backpedaling ST-D to try and regain some of the existing fans.
 
The best thing they could do for Ep9 is to strip it down as much as possible and simplify the story. They already have a huge task ahead of them with tying up a TON of loose ends, so I think the more straightforward the story is the better. Don't introduce too many new things. I know that is a temptation for SW due to the merchandising nature of the franchise, but I hope they can avoid that trap. Hopefully, the decline in toy sales they've seen recently will make that clear to them.

We have a lot of characters with a lot of arcs that need to be closed up. I have my doubts that it's possible, but I had my doubts about Infinity War as well, so I am ready to be proven wrong again.
 
I can't recall any corporation who took that attitude of 'lets blow off the existing customer base to soley focus on the new one'. Especially when the existing one brings in billions a year in merchandise.

I find this most illuminating.

I would consider myself as part of the existing customer base. I've been a fan since 97. Never once have I felt that the new management was blowing me off for a new customer base.
 
Well I feel more confident in 'The Management' now after Taika Waititi's comment about The Mandalorian, he says,"They know that the tone of the first films really should be kind of adhered to. That's what the fans like and you can't really disrespect it"

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A fascinating statement.

I have a feeling this is just me................ But haven't the new films, adhered to this already? Let's me see if I can put my thoughts into words.

I would say that the tone of ANH is one of a fun adventure, sprinkled with a few darker moments. Similarly, TFA was fun and adventurous, with a handful of darker moments. Then ESB and TLJ being the middle chapter are both considerably darker than the first film, sprinkled with a few moments levity and fun.
 
Good old Mike Zeroh. Gifting Disney the ability to hide any true leak by reporting every single possible alternative ever speculated on.

And now I have let the dog out for a piss ,I am going back to bed.
 
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