Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

What did you think of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker?

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Scarecrow Joe said:
Apologists? Really? The films are flawed and no one here has ever said they were perfect. Small demographic? Not really. Numbers say otherwise.I think some here are in the LOUDEST and BITTER demographic. That a more realistic definition. If anyone wants to throw money at their nostalgia, like you so arrogantly put it, let them be. Is their money, it is their nostalgia. That way of trying to intellectually diminished anyone, who thinks the movies are entertaining and basically a nice way a good time with one's family, is getting old. There are even some here who have yet to see the films and yet had the nerve to vote it down as bad. I thought you were the smartest and the more intelectual guys around? Not that smart to me. Please do not try to diminished intellectually anyone to try and prove a point. You may find those people are possibly more educated than you. It nears dangerously to bigotry and it really dont make you look better.
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You're so eager to be offended that you completely missed his point.
 
You are so eager to diminish others that you missed mine. No surprise of course, you always repeat and applaud the same bunch who are evidently "superior" to anyone who dares express their enjoyment.
 
Axlotl said:
You're so eager to be offended that you completely missed his point.
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On a good note, I found out that if you click ignore on a member here, you won’t even be notified if they reply directly to a post you made! What a great feature, because I don’t even feel like arguing. That’s not why I’m here. If I feel passionately that TROS isn’t a real film and that’s it a three hour long highlight reel meant to sell toys and mine nostalgia, I’m totally at liberty to post that here in a discussion thread on the subject of the film, and then just leave and not deal with any attacks on my arguments. Because I don’t care. I just wanted a place to address my reaction to the film, and I got it.

If my post made you so angry that your eyes were tearing up, or that you were compelled to make a rebuttal (i.e., apologize for the movie), could you please just do me and everyone else a favor and click ignore on my profile? I’d rather you not acknowledge that I exist.
 
Dont worry, people like you are not worthy of even considering ignoring. That would validate your arrogance. You do exist, Im not as immature as you seem to be. Tears? You sound like a bully at the local kindergarten. You are just irrelevant which is fine, specially to those who just enjoy a movie for what it is. You want to keep simmering in your bitterness? Diminishing others make you feel good? Thats okay too but be prepared when someone decides to say a thing or two about your attitude. You can attack, you can nitpick, you can create your own delusional canon but dont try to belittle others, over a silly thing as a movie. Doing so diminishes only YOU.

Surprise Axlotl gave a you a like! But of course...

BTW, how many of you that negatively criticize this movie have actually seen it? How full of yourself can you be to even doing so? Is that how "smart" people do things?
 
Scarecrow Joe said:
Dont worry, people like you are not worthy of even considering ignoring. That would validate your arrogance. You do exist, Im not as immature as you seem to be. Tears? You sound like a bully at the local kindergarten. You are just irrelevant which is fine, specially to those who just enjoy a movie for what it is. You want to keep simmering in your bitterness? Diminishing others make you feel good? Thats okay too but be prepared when someone decides to say a thing or two about your attitude. You can attack, you can nitpick, you can create your own delusional canon but dont try to belittle others, over a silly thing as a movie. Doing so diminishes only YOU.

Surprise Axlotl gave a you a like! But of course...
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FFS, grow up, man.
 
My thoughts...
I'm reading all the heated debates over this movie and the ST in general... But let me say this... When the movie was over and the closing music began, I looked down at my son who is 10, the same age I was when this all started. The emotion I felt right then and there could never be matched by anything else. No matter how bad or good the movie was, that bond and timing was priceless, and for that I'm grateful.
 
Mr Webber said:
I have no problem with same sex "interaction" in any films but to sneakily include one in a Star Wars movie and then edit it out for several markets around the world highlights how shallow and false a place the sentiment comes from.
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You're cherry picking to suit your narrative.

Hollywood has historically edited films for other regions for all manner of reasons, including to fit social / religious norms. Violence has been toned down in some films to fit cultures that don't accept it as much as the US does. Toy Story 2 completely redid a motivational speech scene in front of an American Flag to a "globe" for international markets -- intentionally breaking the obvious Patton spoof -- just because they felt the change was more inclusive to non-Americans.

But in the case of Star Wars, the kiss scene was removed in the Singapore market because their ratings code would have then made the film the equivalent of R rated in that market (21 and over, there). So the scene wasn't included and then removed as arbitrarily as your comment makes it seem. It was the result of facing a government, society, and ratings board FAR more conservative than the one here.
 
Exactly. My son and my daughter have grown up with these ST as I did with the OT. Only a guy who has family can relate and you hit the nail with that comment. In the theater people applauded, laughed even cried during the whole movie. Of course if you go to the theater looking to be enlightened, looking for a meaning of life, etc.....you will be frustrated.;)
 
Scarecrow Joe said:
Exactly. The poll here leans against your opinion and somehow, it must be not be true. Lets nitpick! You seem to fit the bill very well of just hating and nitpicking just because. I expressed my opinions and said why I love Star Wars and very clearly said these new, as the old films are not perfect. That argument don't apply to me at all. BTW, Rotten Tomatoes audience score gives it a 86% but I guess you will find more creative ways to continue your banter. It seems some can not deal with the reality that even with its flaws it still has a mostly positive review.
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By quoting my entire post, did you intend to make this comment seem directed at me? Because if you had read my entire post, I am clearly not one of the ones hating on the film. If that was unintentional, carry on... :)
 
dfrey79 I'm with you. My nephew took me to see the movie (bought the tickets and everything). He lost his dad to suicide last year and wanted to thank me for all I have done for him. When the STAR WARS came on screen and the scroll started it's hard for people my age (41) not to tear up. Unfortunately the movie was just meh in my opinion. But I ate my popcorn and spent time with me nephew so you're right. That is what matters.
 
Axlotl said:
FFS, grow up, man.
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Have you seen it yet? Or are you, as always, repeating the same old arguments by the same people, quoting the same you tubers? Dont know about you but I respect anyone who actually see the movie and reacted to it, than someone who just spurts out the same nonsense some other guy said. If you talk "smart" you must consider acting smart too.

FFS, go see it.........man.
 
HMSwolfe said:
If I feel passionately that TROS isn’t a real film and that’s it a three hour long highlight reel meant to sell toys and mine nostalgia,
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I'm not saying TROS was a particularly good film or a good Star Wars. But I believe you might be point fingers at the wrong film. Let me introduce you to Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith.

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And that isn't everything that was made..........
 
Cool figures, except Anakin. Something wrong with his head! The OT was designed with merchandise from the very beginning. Yes, that same trilogy, the same one that is put up there with divinity itself. Lucas practically invented the concept. Yes apart from been entertainment, it was designed to sell toys. Sorry to bust your delusional bubble of OT sanctity.....:whistle:
 
HMSwolfe said:
I think more so than ever the apologists are coming out of the woodwork to excuse as many flaws as possible, and relying on the same tired old arguments as always. “The originals weren’t that good”, “it’s just a movie so enjoy it”, “you’re just determined to hate it”, “it included/referenced something from canon so I like it”, “you think all force powers should have been established and no more can be created”, and the list goes on and on. They think that to criticize the film as a film is sacrilege and whining, and that to expect, I don’t know, a competent, finished film with a plot, characters, and resonant themes is “setting your expectations too high”.
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Pointing out that Star Wars has been a fractured narrative from the moment a sequel to Star Wars was penned does not make one an "apologist." Nor does enjoying the film, while at the same time recognizing its flaws.

The problem is that the overwhelming tone on this board from those who dislike the film is that anyone who likes any part of it must be wrong, an apologist, doesn't understand/appreciate good storytelling, or any number of other dismissals.

It's possible to have enjoyed the film AND recognize that, yes, the plot plays fast and loose in many, many ways. It's possible to recognize that upon examination, certain connections don't really hold up, or at least require the audience to fill in more gaps than they should (people are STILL confused by whole chase in Last Jedi, still incorrectly calling it "slow speed").

And while it's equally unfair to summarily dismiss the opinions of anyone who didn't like it, it absolutely is a fact that there were people posting negative reviews of the film well in advance of any possibility of having actually seen it, which skews the credibility of some of the hate.

They were the result of someone’s vision. I might disagree with every direction they took Star Wars, but it was the product of people at the end of the day. Not a committee, not highly-paid executives, not a corporation with the formula to infinite profits all figured out. At the end of the day, that’s what stories are about: people. We can feel when passion and humanity are absent from a film—even something like The Room manages to be more heartfelt than Star Trek: Into Darkness or Justice League.
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Let's just be clear here: That "someone's vision" you're talking about is George Lucas. However he may have started, he became just as much of a corporate businessman as the very people you're demonizing for the current Star Wars. That isn't to say he didn't try to tell the stories he wanted, but profit was absolutely top of mind to him, as well.

It also is absolutely unfair to categorize the current people running Star Wars as only being in it for the money. Rian Johnson wasn't allowed to take the direction he did with The Last Jedi because The Suits felt that was the most profitable route. It was his vision for the film, for better or worse. JJ Abrams isn't the greatest when it comes to writing / finishing stories, but his passion for Star Wars can be seen in how he directs the films (or hell, even in how he directed Star Trek).
 
My goodness, some people in here seem to really enjoy getting dramatic about all this, on both sides... :lol:

I had hopes that maybe this time around we might be able to bring the discussion to something a little more complex than the “It’s good, I enjoyed it!” “No, it’s the worst and it ruined my childhood!” kind of nonsense, but here we are again...

I suppose it is better than the guy who used to rant endlessly about “low SWIQ movies!” and his counterpart... may they Rest In Peace.
 
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