Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

What did you think of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker?


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Just saw it. Plenty of fun bits and it looked great, but, overall, for me it was corny, hokey, juvenile, overly drawn out, and poorly acted. It was a 90-minute film dragged out to 2.5 hours. Lots of waste and recycling. I still find all the new characters very unengaging. Better than the last one, but still a stinker. Eye of the beholder.
 
So I read the EOTF script. There's a lot of bad stuff in there, especially dialogue, and all the Kylo/Rey stuff is awful. It also has some really good ideas and scenes. Finn's arc is really good, the opening attack at the shipyards would have been a cool opening and all the stuff on Coruscant is pretty good with a final battle that could have been outstanding (not unlike the Rogue One beach battle).

With a couple of years of rewrites and script doctoring, I think it would have been a much better and more satisying movie than what we got. I think Trevorrow actually 'gets' Star Wars better than JJ, even if a lot of the writing is bad.
Rey/Po would have made the internet explode tho'....
 
Well, I like a lot of this concept art better than the actual movie, but that doesn’t mean much. It would still have been watered down and executed poorly with overly vivid colors and too much CGI. And man, I can’t stress how much I absolutely hate double-bladed lightsabers. Or really, pretty much any gimmicky lightsaber other than Kylo Ren’s. Also not a big fan of referencing a lot of that Clone Wars stuff. I get that there is a percentage of the fan base that likes that kind of referential inclusion, but it just comes across as dumb to me. That’s why I was always glad they axed a lot of the EU—that way, they were free to do new stuff rather than stick to some overrated novels written in the eighties and nineties. Of course, they didn’t end up doing that great of new stuff either, but that’s beside the point.
 
Thank you HISHE for bringing “Tip the goddamn ship!!” to visual reality. Actually seeing it was absolutely hysterical :lol:

Aah, my young padawan, I’m sure that in a month’s time, Disney will release in a new visual dictionary/comic book/episode of Clone Wars that “the space horses of Cadmoc-9 have naturally magnetic hooves which enable them to climb the metal-rich cliffs of the planet”, and that even if the First Order had thought to enlist gravity in their fight, the space horses would have been unstoppable. (because of the will of the Force)
 
Thank you HISHE for bringing “Tip the goddamn ship!!” to visual reality. Actually seeing it was absolutely hysterical :lol:

Darn, I thought the spirits of all Sith Lords were going to rise and fight the Jedi spirits at the end there. Would've loved that haha.

Actually they should've just done that in the actual movie. I mean "**** it" right?
 
Hmmm, I don't know, that door looks a little thick to be just a covering. But I guess if I wanna really nitpick I would be more concerned with how that thing was working at all after being submerged for 10+ years.............
My main takeaway from that shot of the door getting pulled off is that it's waaaay too thick to be a starfighter hull panel. And, since we're nitpicking, it was underwater for maybe a year or two.
I agree plot hole is a bad choice of words, but rather the idea we were left believing that those who built the Death Star, this incredibly complex and sophisticated space station, did not conceive that two torpedos in an exhaust port could destroy it.
The thermal exhaust port wasn't an oversight, but a design necessity that was deemed well enough protected, being at the end of a narrow trench under heavy enough shielding that nothing could penetrate except capital ship weaponry that the station's turbolaser towers could repel. As General Dodonna said, the station's defenses were designed against a large-scale assault. Pre-Rogue-One, Imperial engineers never expected a small snubfighter to physically penetrate the trench's shielding at the extreme far end from the port where they were weakest and survive all the laserfire from the turrets in the trench. and manage to hit a target that small.

And, per the movie, they would've been right, if not for the Force and Plot Armor. The first run was taken out without them firing a shot. The second run managed to get the shot off, but it missed. The third run would've been a repeat of the first had not Han grown a conscience (or acquiensced to badgering from his copilot) and distracted Vader right before he piffed Luke. I think Han was estimating low when he called the shot one in a million. By rights, it shouldn't have worked.
It would have been more interesting if they joined him to help defeat Palpatine.
That I'd have loved. Their whole thing was that they'd started out as a Vader cult, so the scion of Vader would, I feel, demand their loyalty more than the Corpse Emperor.
Interesting subject I’ve been bring up but keep forgetting.. but now that we have the trilogy as a whole...
What are your guys opinions on the use of Flashback scenes in this trilogy?
I feel like the visual storytelling of everything that followed Star Wars and Empire should have maintained. We don't see flashbacks or visions, except in extreme circumstances like the Dagobah cave.
 
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