Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

[ConvergencePro]

Anybody wanna talk about whatever the hell this is?
Like seriously, what the hell am I supposed to be looking at?

 

[HMSwolfe]

Anybody wanna talk about whatever the hell this is?
Like seriously, what the hell am I supposed to be looking at?
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Somebody at Disney heard that the Lord of the Rings were pretty popular, so they wanted a Bilbo freakout scene included to attempt to bring in that audience

 

[ConvergencePro]

Somebody at Disney heard that the Lord of the Rings were pretty popular, so they wanted a Bilbo freakout scene included to attempt to bring in that audience

It is pretty ironic that we’ve been using LOTR as a comparison for competency in story writing and such repeatedly since TLJ only for these goofballs to straight up rip a scene from the films

 

[HMSwolfe]

It is pretty ironic that we’ve been using LOTR as a comparison for competency in story writing and such repeatedly since TLJ only for these goofballs to straight up rip a scene from the films

Yeah, it’s way, way too similar of a jump scare weird face to be a coincidence

 

[HanSolo2187]

I didn't understand the fangs, either.

Maybe I'm too much of a dork, but what I don't understand is WHY the Emperor would have even had the Sith Wayfinder in a vault just off of his throne room on the new Death Star. He wasn't supposed to be there ("The Emperor is coming here?") and only really showed up to bait the Rebels and Luke to attack it. Why would he have taken his most treasured artifacts and put them in the Death Star (before it was completed, when he wasn't supposed to be there, etc.)?

What would have made more sense to me would have been:
- Ben is spoken to by the Emperor (who tells him how to get to Exegol so they can talk face-to-face)
- Ben tells Rey of Palpatine's existence
- She and the gang travel to the last known location of the Emperor - the Endor system.
- Rey uses the Force (and maybe a JJ vision) to find the throne room in the Death Star wreckage.
- Rey recovers Luke's green lightsaber (that he tossed)
- In the throne room, the Emperor has a log of his travel (or something) that points back to his quarters on Coruscant
- At Coruscant, we find an elaborate room full of Sith artifacts - one of which is the wayfinder.

 

[HMSwolfe]

I didn't understand the fangs, either.

Maybe I'm too much of a dork, but what I don't understand is WHY the Emperor would have even had the Sith Wayfinder in a vault just off of his throne room on the new Death Star. He wasn't supposed to be there ("The Emperor is coming here?") and only really showed up to bait the Rebels and Luke to attack it. Why would he have taken his most treasured artifacts and put them in the Death Star (before it was completed, when he wasn't supposed to be there, etc.)?

What would have made more sense to me would have been:
- Ben is spoken to by the Emperor (who tells him how to get to Exegol so they can talk face-to-face)
- Ben tells Rey of Palpatine's existence
- She and the gang travel to the last known location of the Emperor - the Endor system.
- Rey uses the Force (and maybe a JJ vision) to find the throne room in the Death Star wreckage.
- Rey recovers Luke's green lightsaber (that he tossed)
- In the throne room, the Emperor has a log of his travel (or something) that points back to his quarters on Coruscant
- At Coruscant, we find an elaborate room full of Sith artifacts - one of which is the wayfinder.

That sounds way more interesting than the actual plot—too interesting and logical for the geniuses known as Chris Terrio and JJ Abrams

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Anybody wanna talk about whatever the hell this is?
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Why yes, that’s old Bilbo Palpatine. Kylo must have laid his hands upon the “One Ring”.

Yikes—so edgy and dangerous! You should watch her eat an apple.

“Kids Movie” and all that jazz.

But, I find this even more disturbing...

Mass murdering psychopaths who kill their own father are evidently the stuff of romance.

Well, there’s hope for you yet, Lyle and Erik Menendez.

 

[Kovnyn]

- Rey recovers Luke's green lightsaber (that he tossed)

But it was recovered by Luke before escape to Nguyen with Vader, unless he made a nearly identical replacement.

 

[ConvergencePro]

Why yes, that’s old Bilbo Palpatine. Kylo must have laid his hands upon the “One Ring”.

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Yikes—so edgy and dangerous!

“Kids Movie” and all that jazz.

But, I find this even more disturbing...

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Mass murdering psychopaths who kill their own parent are evidently the stuff of romance.

Well, there’s hope for you yet, Lyle and Erik Menendez.

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Yeah I truly 100% do NOT understand the ReyLo crowd.
its like wanting your hero to fall for goddamn Heinrich Himmler. The cognitive dissonance is real...

 

[HeartBlade]

Yeah I truly 100% do NOT understand the ReyLo crowd.
its like wanting your hero to fall for goddamn Heinrich Himmler. The cognitive dissonance is real...

I feel the perception of romance has been skewed by Twilight and 50 shades of grey.

Although popular, these books make terrible people become the romantic partners of the main character. Edward is aloof and self-important while Christian is abusive. Honestly, Kylo fits

 

[BTTUK]

Yeah I truly 100% do NOT understand the ReyLo crowd.
its like wanting your hero to fall for goddamn Heinrich Himmler. The cognitive dissonance is real...

I'd agree if there weren't so many women in the real world that didn't actively pursue, and "fall in love", with convicted murderers in prison/death row.

 

[sztriki]

Are you referring to 'sitting ducks'?

Would you prefer 'sitting woozle wuzzles'? or 'sitting space ducks'?

No, it was an exchange between Ben and Luke about Luke's abilities, goes something like
"Still, even a duck has to be taught to swim."
"What's a duck?"
"No matter."

You know, there's an off hand reference to hot chocolate early in the first Zahn novel, Heir to the Empire, that took me right out of the thing for a minute. It happens.

You had to go there and drag it out from the recesses of my brain...

When Luke saw Chewbacca for the first time, he was reminded of a dog he used to have.

Ah god that as well...there was something like "Kenobi was talking nonchalantly as if they were discussing a recipe for a stew". God that book is horrible, but then again, ADF's Alien novelizations were pretty much the same quality.

I'm sure you've read Star Wars '74 and the Leigh Brackett ESB screenplay? Wow. Talk about cringe.

Only plot synopses. Spared myself from the actual ones.

Mass murdering psychopaths who kill their own father are evidently the stuff of romance.

Well, there’s hope for you yet, Lyle and Erik Menendez.

Hey chicks were madly in love with Severus Snape and conveniently forgot that he was a malevolent, bullying, snarky greasy-haired weirdo dork who hated everyone and everything.

 

[Grigori]

I wonder about fans of Reylo in the first two movies, and comparison to those who appreciated the romance aspect between Rey and Ben Solo in the third movie. I can see an argument that Rey having redeeming love for Ben (i.e. not Kylo) has comparisons to Luke having redeeming love for Anakin (i.e. not Darth Vader who cut off his hand, tortured his friends, killed his mentor, blew up some planets etc.) but the good person they wanted to save. Not that that premise is necessarily very different to Twilight or 50 Shades, except for the specific precedent of distinct personas between light and dark side users.

This actually has me thinking about casting now, and imagining Adam Driver playing Anakin's fall in the PT and how different that could have been to Hayden's performance (not that I think the casting was the main issue for that character). I'd love to see that actually.

 

[sztriki]

This actually has me thinking about casting now, and imagining Adam Driver playing Anakin's fall in the PT and how different that could have been to Hayden's performance (not that I think the casting was the main issue for that character). I'd love to see that actually.

I did say that when TFA came out that the bratty angsty guy struggling with his dark and light sides works great. Unlike the bratty angsty guy struggling with his dark and light sides in AOTC and ROTS. Although credit where credit is due, the direction probably made a world of difference as well and to a degree writing too.

 

[Joek3rr]

“I want Star Destroyers with frickin’ Death Star Cannons attached to their bellies, OK???”

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I apologize to the TROS defenders, but just saying the phrase “Star Destroyers with Death Star Cannons” sounds so obscenely stupid.

You mean like they did in Legends?

 

[Captain Dunsel]

You mean like they did in Legends?
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Holy hilarity.

Yes, exactly like Legends.

TROS filmmakers obviously harvested only the very best of ideas from both the OT and Expanded Universe.

 

[sztriki]

You mean like they did in Legends?
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I feel very lovecraftian about the EU and Legends...I used to live on a placid island of ignorance, only got glimpses of horrors beneath the surface of the dark waters and every time some new monstrosity comes up I feel a step closer to losing my mind...

 

[Joek3rr]

Holy hilarity.

Yes, exactly like Legends.

TROS filmmakers obviously harvested only the very best of ideas from both the OT and Expanded Universe.

The Xyston is real mix bag for me. On one hand i love the super laser. It seems like the next step in weapon design.
From the Venator to the First Order seige Dreadnought.

But it's just an upsized ISD........but then the Victory is a downsized ISD with some extra stuff stuck on.

 

[ConvergencePro]

You mean like they did in Legends?
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Said it before and I’ll say it again.. Just because it existed before in the EU/Legends doesn’t automatically make it good

 

[Solo4114]

Said it before and I’ll say it again.. Just because it existed before in the EU/Legends doesn’t automatically make it good

Boy is that ever true...

Like, I LOVE the West End Games stuff by and large, but I do find their endless variations of YT-#### to be kind of myopic. That's actually true for a lot of designs within the series.