Something I painfully noticed the other day while sitting through Thor Ragnarok, TLJ and Thor Ragnarok are pretty much the same movie. Its mind blowing.
The R2-D2 moment, as well as the dialogue after the moment when Chewie kicked in the door to his hut.So after watching it again and sitting,thinking I can point to one other strange thing that was jarring:
Luke,he was NOT Luke and it reared it's head in one scene-when he was reunited with R2-D2 for a split second he sounded like the old Luke then bam! He went back to that weird voice that sounded like Hamill was using his voice acting skills for Batman or something.
All the characters use bathos for humour. It means that there is very little character. We've now seen rocket try to mess with hux from his x-wing and drax helped jyn erso infiltrate the imperial base in the Turks and CaicosSomething I painfully noticed the other day while sitting through Thor Ragnarok, TLJ and Thor Ragnarok are pretty much the same movie. Its mind blowing.
This girl is my new favorite youtuber:
*WARNING: Language NSFW*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQTornBY4Ig
Wow! That caffeine fuelled rant really nailed it and I share her passion.
“At first I was freaked out but then I realised the things people were angry about are the things I’m most proud about.”
The R2-D2 moment, as well as the dialogue after the moment when Chewie kicked in the door to his hut.
https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/...rce-of-fans-fury-with-last-jedi-a3800261.html
It's like he's mad that people didn't enjoy the movie and is trying to troll them.
His trilogy is gonna end up being three movies all about Luke dying in different ways......:lol
I honestly hope not. As disappointed I was with TLJ I don't want this to be a tug-of-war between egos and "my story! no, it's mine! no it's mine" kinda thing. I do think that Rian had a contrarian approach but the solution is not to be contrarian to that, it's JJ's job now to make the most out of it. And this is one of the reasons why I'm not really looking forward to Ep9. Even if it's stellar, it'll be built on something that I consider flawed in terms of motivations and consequences.I hope JJ Abrams retconns Luke's story in 9 just to spite Rian. It seems that Johnson did it to him so why not return the favor? Make as many crappy sequels as you want but don't ruin the legacy of the OT characters.
That was my first thought leaving the theatre. That a fan-edit could save the movie. Problem I have is that while most of the concepts I still think are pretty cool the execution, motivations and storytelling are impaired. Don't get me wrong it certainly would improve the film immensely if certain bits were edited out, but I still don't think it would make it a good one. I would love to see your friend's fan-edit though.This thread is mostly going over my head, but I just wanted to say that my friend (who like the theatrical cut more than I did) took my grievances and did his own edit of the movie which I just watched last night, and it tipped the scale back towards enjoyment. Most of the things that were removed were the misplaced comedy (not ALL of the comedy), the porgs beyond just being set dressing on Ach-to, and the Canto Bight sequence (which is the roughest part of the edit admittedly).
It made me see the merit of the strong parts of the film and I was happier for having watched it and enjoyed the moments that are pure Star Wars without the "wtf" moments that I had felt in the original run.