Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[PantheraGem]

JJ worships Spielberg. He's not going to publicly pan a kid that dedicated an entire film to his style either. I wouldn't expect him to publicly pan any filmmaker actually. He's got too much class. It really means nothing.

Also, don't forget Spielberg "directed" the Obi-Wan vs. Vader duel in RotS (via pre-vis).

 

[Tan Djarka]

The more I see of this, the less it looks like the OT to me. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just think a lot of people will be sorely disappointed. This ain't your daddy's Star Wars.

 

[kristen jones]

I think you're over thinking it. It's going to be just fine... you'll see.

 

[DINVADER]

Comments like the one below is why I can't stand a percentage of the fandom, if it looks too much like the original trilogy it's called pandering and fan service and nothing original or new. If they change too many things and introduce new things, use newer effects techniques it's not enough like the originals. (Some seem to want it filmed exactly as it would have been in the early 80s with only 80s techniques!) This kind of stuff makes me want me to pull out my hair sometimes. They will always be damned if they do and damned if they don't by some people. We've got to accept there will always be a percentage not happy, NO MATTER WHAT. Whatever they do, whoever they get to direct, there will be an unhappy percentage.

The more I see of this, the less it looks like the OT to me. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just think a lot of people will be sorely disappointed. This ain't your daddy's Star Wars.

 

[JD]

Comments like the one below is why I can't stand a percentage of the fandom, if it looks too much like the original trilogy it's called pandering and fan service and nothing original or new. If they change too many things and introduce new things, use newer effects techniques it's not enough like the originals. (Some seem to want it filmed exactly as it would have been in the early 80s with only 80s techniques! This kind of stuff makes me want me to pull out my hair sometimes. They will always be damned if they do and damned if they don't by some people. We've got to accept there will always be a percentage not happy, NO MATTER WHAT. Whatever they do, whoever they get to direct, there will be a unhappy percentage.

Tan Djarka has a valid opinion - it's been echoed here with other statements - there was discussion about the moves the camera/Falcon makes when the first preview spot popped up. While I didn't really catch the Falcon bit, there are some bits in the latest preview that really seem out of place to me - what appears to be the superweapon firing just didn't feel very Star Wars-y to me, nor did the flying Trooper Han appears to shoot.

But, ya know what? We know this isn't the late 70s/early 80s - we know technology has changed a great deal... that's one of the things that bugged me about the fanboys squealing about practical effects. They are using CG, that much is very evident - so of course, we're not going to see a true return to form. A good effect is a good effect, CG or practical. Heck, there's plenty I've seen in these bits that seem a whole lot like the PT, too (again - not a bad thing).

But, ya know what? Like the poster said above, we're "not saying it's a bad thing" he's just making an observation. Why some folks are so quick to attack someone for having an opinion or go off on a rant because of it is just juvenile.

Just because we have opinions or showing a bit of apprehension doesn't make us any less of a fan. I practically jumped for joy when I got my tickets for the first showing on the 17th, I've been buying stuff here and there and am genuinely excited... but, that doesn't mean we can't be rational about it all. I'm not completely buying what JJ and Kathleen Kennedy are selling - a lot of just feels 'off' to me... but, that kinda talk is met with dissent here and it's ignored that we're posting real, valid thoughts with thought behind rather than fanboy gushing.

 

[Wolfsburg]

That's true for most all things, not just SW. They will not be able to please everyone. You'll have some that think TFA is the greatest thing since sliced bread, others that will think it's a travesty and utter bollocks and the rest that will fall somewhere in between.

Comments like the one below is why I can't stand a percentage of the fandom, if it looks too much like the original trilogy it's called pandering and fan service and nothing original or new. If they change too many things and introduce new things, use newer effects techniques it's not enough like the originals. (Some seem to want it filmed exactly as it would have been in the early 80s with only 80s techniques! This kind of stuff makes me want me to pull out my hair sometimes. They will always be damned if they do and damned if they don't by some people. We've got to accept there will always be a percentage not happy, NO MATTER WHAT. Whatever they do, whoever they get to direct, there will be a unhappy percentage.

 

[PantheraGem]

To me, DINVADER and Tan Djarka were making pretty much the same point.

 

[DINVADER]

In response to that, it's like saying anything not seen in a SW film before is un-Star Warsy. By that argument, Luke's vision in the Dagobah cave was not Star Warsy because it had not been seen in SW before that the time. There are things (even camera movements) that happen in every SW film that didn't happen in a previous SW film if you analyze every scene and frame.

 

[JD]

In response to that, it's like saying anything not seen in a SW film before is un-Star Warsy. By that argument, Luke's vision in the Dagobah cave was not Star Warsy because it had not been seen in SW before that the time. There are things (even camera movements) that happen in every SW film that didn't happen in a previous SW film if you analyze every scene and frame.

:facepalm

 

[astroboy]

Here's all I want out of this:

I want this trilogy to fit in with the other six films as fluidly and organically as possible. That includes the story, the effects, and the film style.


Because these really are stylish movies.

I DON'T want it to fall into the same tropes that have plagued every action movie of the last ten years. Marvel, star trek, transformers, mission impossible, etc.....

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[ghostryder]

 

[Davy Jones]

I read the second one ...in a galaxy Jar Jar away....

Seriously though, those are cool.

 

[reelprops]

I love how everyone hates Jar Jar ( me included ) yet no one seems to forget him. Must have had some impression on ppl. Deep down everyone Loves Da Binks. [emoji14]

Reel


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[Marv]

I think I'll read it that he has been well and truly kicked in to touch jar jar away.

 

[jkno]

The more I see of this, the less it looks like the OT to me. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just think a lot of people will be sorely disappointed. This ain't your daddy's Star Wars.

I LOVE OT! Nothing will ever beat the feeling I have every time I watch OT, especially some scenes that still give me goosebumps. Heck, yesterday flipping through the TV channels I arrived on a Hungarian channel where there was ANH. And it was dubbed in Hungarian and thus everyone spoke Hungarian, and it was freaking hilarious to listen to Vader, Obi, Luke, Han and C-3PO talking in Hungarian. And still I was caught up till advertising started, and I still got goosebumps on some scenes.

Thus I cannot declare the TFA will be good or bad, until I watch the movie. Even if it is better than PT, I'll be happy.

 

[Scott D]

Anything will be better than the PT.

There's more acting ability in this one shot below than any moment in the PT that I can remember.

There were actors in the PT that could have achieved this, but GL would have left it out in the editing process.

 

[astroboy]

Anything will be better than the PT.

Not true.

What if he tries to pay homage to ANH the same way he did with the wrath of Khan? What if he plays "fast and loose" with story because he wants to maintain intensity? What if the movie is all about elaborate action staging grounds rather than logical character development?

Because that's what he did with star trek. And it's what everyone else does too.

 

[Bryancd]

Very pleased to hear this, from the pages of Empire magazine. Less dancing with tennis rackets - more tough looking combat is deffinitely the order of the day...


'For Abrams the lightsaber battles in Episode 1 to 3 were “increasingly spectacular and stylised, almost like dance choreography”. So when he came to stage runaway stormtrooper Finn versus baddie Kylo Ren in a snowy forest, he went back to the source.'


'When you look at Star Wars and Empire, they are very different lightsaber battles, but for me they felt more powerful because they were not quite as slick. I was hoping to go for something much more primitive, aggressive and rougher, a throwback to the kind of heart-stopping lightsaber fights I remembered being so enthralled by as a kid.'

 

[Bryancd]

New Disney XD featurette

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015...-force-awakens-featurette-reys-adventure.html

 

[Halliwax]

Not true.

What if he tries to pay homage to ANH the same way he did with the wrath of Khan? What if he plays "fast and loose" with story because he wants to maintain intensity? What if the movie is all about elaborate action staging grounds rather than logical character development?

Because that's what he did with star trek. And it's what everyone else does too.

exactly what if the super weapon is the black smoke monster!