I wouldn't go into these discussions if I didn't think it meant something. This topic of female representation is very important for me personally because when the only important female character in the prequels dies that way, what else is there to fall back on? Leia? Well, as everyone pretty much agrees "It wasn't ever about Leia" so we have to reduce her to role of support. She can be 'a' hero, but not 'the' hero. And what ever female presence there is elsewhere, they're hardly worth the attention of having their names said aloud. In Return of the Jedi when the Rebels meet for the final assault, Admiral Akbar is introduced by name, General Madine is introduced by name, but not Mon Mothma is not. The leader of the Rebel Alliance who we meet for the first time... and we don't even learn her name. And looking at the old EU and the new EU, there really is no female Luke Skywalker equivalent who comes off as the genuine leading character. Even Ahsoka, despite being one of the best things to happen in Star Wars since KOTOR isn't going to be taking the spotlight away from Kanan or Ezra, because Star Wars Rebels is their story.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)
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I wouldn't go into these discussions if I didn't think it meant something. This topic of female representation is very important for me personally because when the only important female character in the prequels dies that way, what else is there to fall back on? Leia? Well, as everyone pretty much agrees "It wasn't ever about Leia" so we have to reduce her to role of support. She can be 'a' hero, but not 'the' hero. And what ever female presence there is elsewhere, they're hardly worth the attention of having their names said aloud. In Return of the Jedi when the Rebels meet for the final assault, Admiral Akbar is introduced by name, General Madine is introduced by name, but not Mon Mothma is not. The leader of the Rebel Alliance who we meet for the first time... and we don't even learn her name. And looking at the old EU and the new EU, there really is no female Luke Skywalker equivalent who comes off as the genuine leading character. Even Ahsoka, despite being one of the best things to happen in Star Wars since KOTOR isn't going to be taking the spotlight away from Kanan or Ezra, because Star Wars Rebels is their story.
If you're taking the death of a fictional character personally, you may need to step back.
My issue is not with your beliefs, my issues is with your constant derailing to spout the same beliefs. We get it. It's okay. Now maybe talk about something else?
My issue is not with your beliefs, my issues is with your constant derailing to spout the same beliefs. We get it. It's okay. Now maybe talk about something else?
Ok, I'll ask again. What else are you excited for?
I'm excited to find out why 3PO has a red arm. Did he lose it in a combat mission? Did he beat Chewie at holo chess? Will they make a cartoon that covers what happened? Oh the possibilities!!
im excited to see the future adventures of Rey and Finn. I think they are going to be the key to
this trilogy.
We should start a pool as to who looses the first appendage.
SteveStarkiller
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oh man, it's totally that, isn't it?
With Phil Tippett coming back to do a holochess scene, I wonder if we actually see it.
kristen jones
Master Member
Speaking as a Woman--AND a Star Wars fan-- I am personally PSYCHED to find out more about Rey. And I don't need some guy on a board to defend how women are treated in film.. I'l judge that one for myself
Or Ray and Poe.
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Good to know her Finn and Kylo sandwich in the poster hasn't convinced you otherwise! I agree, she's going to be dynamite. See Jeyl that's how I support strong female characters in big films, acknowledging them rather then making false claims and using films made more then a decade ago as case in point.
kristen jones
Master Member
Sandwich... dear God. Some people see what the want to see. 
Sandwich... dear God. Some people see what the want to see.
i believe his quote was somewhere along the line that Rey was sandwiched between two men with light sabers and all she had was a stick. That's modern mysogeny!
kristen jones
Master Member
Im inclined to agree. Its setting up a straw man and then arguing on that platform. It creates the "problem" out of thin air, and then tells us that we have to be upset about it.
My own counsel will I keep. ;-)
My own counsel will I keep. ;-)
Now that I think about it, what's the deal with Poe? We know almost nothing about him.
Well officially he's the best pilot in the Resistance, he's our swashbuckling hotshot who takes on the impossible missions. Rumor is he was intended to be this trilogies Han Solo until the actual Han Solo signed up for the film and his role was reduced to allow for a lot more Harrison Ford, at least for Ep. 7.
astroboy
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