Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

I honestly can't agree with any of this.


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All of those quotes were contradicted, and it doesn't take much thinking. I think you mean "if you bend over backwards to excuse their choices and lie to yourself!" I don't have anything else because that's about all the OT ever said about the past. And yeah, they're each contradicted.

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Pretty much exactly what I would write... it's complete bull that someone has to make up work arounds for the prequels to work.
 
Oops typo. Yes I meant the AT-PT. And I thought they were the walkers that the clones used when they were searching the swamps of Utapau for Obi-Wan in ROTS, no? The ones that look like mini AT-ST's.

Ahh, I gotcha. I think you mean the AT-RT...so pretty close to AT-PT actually. Lol...
 
Don't hate me, but I don't like the light colored robes. Like Gandalf the White or something.

I mean otherwise, I'm all kinds of giddy, but me likes the darker ones.

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One strange thing in the Phasma pic - she has a regular folding stock on the blaster (like classic E-11) but also a stock already under the shoulder:

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That looks like an ATI stock.

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I honestly can't agree with any of this.


1. Pods (podracers?) are not starships. I wouldn't call Dale Earnhardt (that's a thing, right?) the best pilot in our Air Force.


2. Like I said, I can't speak for the Clone Wars, but I don't like to look outside of the films to inform what's on screen in the prequels - especially as the cartoon wasn't around when the films were released. In the prequels, there's no hint of real friendship or love between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Anakin was never likable, never a good friend, never charismatic. He simply went from whiney to worse, then turned to the dark side. Not much to redeem, from what I saw.


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3. "Ben made it up?" Only because the prequels contradicted it instead of finding a way to make a very special gift from father to son work. Lazy, and still a contradiction even if you can twist the original film's meaning after the fact.


4. You gotta be punking me with the Padmé thing. You're saying that I should accept that a newborn infant grasped that her mother was beautiful, kind, and sad in the ten seconds they were alive together, and her premie memory is just off the charts higher than Luke's? This conversations was also really important. Luke, facing the prospects of almost certain death and still processing new information about his family's history and having gained a sister, approaches Leia with the hopes of learning something about his mother. His and her "real mother." Leia remembers more than him because she got to spend some time with the lady. Bail Organa should have been a bigger part of the prequels, and probably a competitor for Padme's affections. If she died during childbirth, Leia's answer would have been "I don't know. She died giving birth to me. I only remember my adoptive mother."


All of those quotes were contradicted, and it doesn't take much thinking. I think you mean "if you bend over backwards to excuse their choices and lie to yourself!" I don't have anything else because that's about all the OT ever said about the past. And yeah, they're each contradicted.


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Agree to disagree, but I couldn't possibly disagree with your disagrements any more than I do.


1.Dale Earnhardt was a NASCAR driver, not a pilot. (That's all I got...like I said, even I think my explanation for that one is reaching)


2. I don't know how you can't see friendship in the movies, but even so, if you don't take into account their relationship between films (be they untold stories or TCW) then you're not taking into account 99.99% of their relationship (pre-turn to the dark side, that is). And even MOST (notice I didn't say all) of their interaction in the movies (which is actually relatively little) is fairly...friendly, for lack of a better word. Most of his "whining" is done behind Obi-Wan's back (which itself, I realize, is not what a true friend should do, but Obi-Wan wouldn't have known he was doing it.)


3. When, pray tell, would Anakin have given Obi-Wan his lightsaber to give to his son with heartfelt affection? If you're turning to the dark side, you're not going to stop and say "hey, wouldn't it be nice to give my future son my lightsaber? Here, Obi-Wan, I want the son I have no idea about to have this lightsaber. Give it to him when he's ready, eh? Okay, I'm going to kill you now."


4. It's called "the Force." In the words of Yoda, "Through the Force, things you will see...The future, the past [Leia's birth], old friends long gone [Padmé]." Obviously I'm not suggesting an ordinary newborn will remember the mother that died soon after birth.


Look, I'm never going to change your or anyone else's mind about the quality (or lack thereof) of the prequels - I wouldn't waste my time on such a lostcause - and I most certainly do not want to strike up another debate about them in a sequel-dedicated thread. So those will be my last words on the subject. Thank you for indulging me, anyway.
 
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Too bad Luke wasn't force-sensitive like Leia! He wouldn't have had to ask at all! ;)

I don't know how that saber handoff would have come about. I think that was one of the very interesting challenges of the prequel puzzle before they were made. I agree that there's not a sensible place to insert that moment into the existing prequels, but then I'd toss them wholesale. Like I said, interesting challenge for sure. That's what great writers can pull off though! Looking at the other contradictions, it seems pretty safe to assume they didn't even explore it.

Or maybe they just didn't want to throw off Anakin's delicately balanced turn to the dark side once they had it just perfect... :lol

I appreciate you taking the time to write out how it works for you. I know you're not alone in reconciling those seeming contradictions in that way. Honestly, I'm jealous - you'll always have three more star wars movies than I will! The last time I saw any of those was when the last was in the theater and I can't bring myself to put myself through that again.
 
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Look the packaging , there isn't write "the force awaken" under "starwars" on bespin's luke and Vader package ;)

They are just OT figure that come out with new figure from episode 7 ^^
 
Look the packaging , there isn't write "the force awaken" under "starwars" on bespin's luke and Vader package ;)

They are just OT figure that come out with new figure from episode 7 ^^

Thats just stupid.

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Thats just stupid.

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Why? It's not like it's something new, I mean, how many times have the OT figures been re-released over the years as Hasbro creates a new line of Star Wars toys? I'll give you a hint: every single time.
 
Why? It's not like it's something new, I mean, how many times have the OT figures been re-released over the years as Hasbro creates a new line of Star Wars toys? I'll give you a hint: every single time.

$$$$$$$$$$$

But why only those 2? I still think its worked into the plot

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