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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Yeah, understood but is that even possible today? I read "I am your father" in the ESB storybook a month before seeing the film. TPM soundtrack had the Death of Qui-gon story point. And that was 15 years ago secrets couldn't be kept.
Yeah, understood but is that even possible today? I read "I am your father" in the ESB storybook a month before seeing the film. TPM soundtrack had the Death of Qui-gon story point. And that was 15 years ago secrets couldn't be kept.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Despite the mention in the book, ESB's ending was still a big revelation for most people. But yeah sadly it is indeed more harder now than it was before to keep plot lines under wrap. Still this inane trend of revealing major plot details like it's supposed to be something along the lines of "People should know the truth" is off putting.
Despite the mention in the book, ESB's ending was still a big revelation for most people. But yeah sadly it is indeed more harder now than it was before to keep plot lines under wrap. Still this inane trend of revealing major plot details like it's supposed to be something along the lines of "People should know the truth" is off putting.
Curmudgeon
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I don't see how Luke could turn to the dark side after resisting both the Emperor and Vader in RoTJ. He was basically untrained then so you would think he would only get stronger and wiser with age
I don't see how Luke could turn to the dark side after resisting both the Emperor and Vader in RoTJ. He was basically untrained then so you would think he would only get stronger and wiser with age
Westies14
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Ding ding ding! You don't go to all of the trouble of bringing back the original cast just to throw away the main returning character's recognizability, but the issue you raise here is the most important. For the ending of the original trilogy arc to retain its full weight, Luke needs to have faced his greatest temptation to turn to the dark side - as his father did - and succeed where Anakin failed. To have him just start dabbling in Sith magic during retirement would be ridiculous.
The site generating the story states right up front that it's their theory and nothing more. The other sites' "sources" confirm it, but these guys are all in the same circle having the same conversation together. Their theories can get twisted to facts as they spread, like a game of operator. The info gets distorted as it spreads through all these 2nd and 3rd hand "sources" - these sites aren't calling Lucasfilm for a comment or something when they say their sources have confirmed a plot point.
Ding ding ding! You don't go to all of the trouble of bringing back the original cast just to throw away the main returning character's recognizability, but the issue you raise here is the most important. For the ending of the original trilogy arc to retain its full weight, Luke needs to have faced his greatest temptation to turn to the dark side - as his father did - and succeed where Anakin failed. To have him just start dabbling in Sith magic during retirement would be ridiculous.
The site generating the story states right up front that it's their theory and nothing more. The other sites' "sources" confirm it, but these guys are all in the same circle having the same conversation together. Their theories can get twisted to facts as they spread, like a game of operator. The info gets distorted as it spreads through all these 2nd and 3rd hand "sources" - these sites aren't calling Lucasfilm for a comment or something when they say their sources have confirmed a plot point.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I'm thinking this is misinformation "leaked" so it would be gobbled up and reverberated all over the internet, and everyone would focus on dissecting what had been "revealed" like a cat attacking a catnip mouse... All the while not realizing that they'd been effectively distracted from actively trying to find stuff out about the film.
I'm still not sure how I feel about the fighters. They look more like late-model Z-95s than they do X-Wings. The one big intake versus the two smaller ones (one for each wing), the stubbier fuselage, the shorter wings...
--Jonah
I'm thinking this is misinformation "leaked" so it would be gobbled up and reverberated all over the internet, and everyone would focus on dissecting what had been "revealed" like a cat attacking a catnip mouse... All the while not realizing that they'd been effectively distracted from actively trying to find stuff out about the film.
I'm still not sure how I feel about the fighters. They look more like late-model Z-95s than they do X-Wings. The one big intake versus the two smaller ones (one for each wing), the stubbier fuselage, the shorter wings...
--Jonah
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Tomorrow is the first day of JediCon, I am really curious how far the rumor has already spread and how the reactions are going to be.
Tomorrow is the first day of JediCon, I am really curious how far the rumor has already spread and how the reactions are going to be.
SmilingOtter
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One the one hand, the "Dark Empire" comic series was pretty good, having Luke study the dark side to better understand how to defeat it. He didn't go bad per se, but he was skirting mighty close.
OTOH, I absolutely HATED the Mission Impossible movie for turning Jim Phelps into the villain. The writers crossed a line with me, and while I might have seen the 2nd one, I had no real interest in the series after that.
So they can push the boundaries with Luke to a degree, but the further out they take it, the better the writing had better be.
One the one hand, the "Dark Empire" comic series was pretty good, having Luke study the dark side to better understand how to defeat it. He didn't go bad per se, but he was skirting mighty close.
OTOH, I absolutely HATED the Mission Impossible movie for turning Jim Phelps into the villain. The writers crossed a line with me, and while I might have seen the 2nd one, I had no real interest in the series after that.
So they can push the boundaries with Luke to a degree, but the further out they take it, the better the writing had better be.
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Torn on this... It does raise the stakes INCREDIBLY... which is what MUST happen to make a story compelling...
But n the other hand, Luke throwing his saber aside and taking a crap ton of lightening in ROTJ seems to have less weight.
But on the other, other hand, it makes the reveal even more "OH CRAP WHAT HAPPENED?!?!"
Argh my brain.
Han's reaction... Leia's... the rebels... How do you bring back something more threatening than the Death Star? This would do it...
Torn on this... It does raise the stakes INCREDIBLY... which is what MUST happen to make a story compelling...
But n the other hand, Luke throwing his saber aside and taking a crap ton of lightening in ROTJ seems to have less weight.
But on the other, other hand, it makes the reveal even more "OH CRAP WHAT HAPPENED?!?!"
Argh my brain.
Han's reaction... Leia's... the rebels... How do you bring back something more threatening than the Death Star? This would do it...
joshvanrad
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Paul Andrew
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I don't buy it yet.
I don't buy it yet.
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So why is AICN not reporting this and Latino Review just report the Max v. Sydow and Kira character stuff ? The Chewbacca info was news, but sounds outright silly. Hm ... maybe it´s good ol Chewie in the end who waited the whole time to take over the Universe, avenging Kashyyykk ...
So why is AICN not reporting this and Latino Review just report the Max v. Sydow and Kira character stuff ? The Chewbacca info was news, but sounds outright silly. Hm ... maybe it´s good ol Chewie in the end who waited the whole time to take over the Universe, avenging Kashyyykk ...
SVTStingRay
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
maybe JJ should have just gone back and redid the whole saga, with continuity this time intact and the lame parts (jarjar, NNNOOOOO!) removed
maybe JJ should have just gone back and redid the whole saga, with continuity this time intact and the lame parts (jarjar, NNNOOOOO!) removed
JD
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No, man... if anyone, it's Jar Jar. He's been there since day one, planning and orchestrating this whole thing. A Gungan lifespan is almost infinite and he's been biding his time.
Notice how no one knows Ahmed Best's whereabouts? Coincidence? I think not!
:lol
No, man... if anyone, it's Jar Jar. He's been there since day one, planning and orchestrating this whole thing. A Gungan lifespan is almost infinite and he's been biding his time.
Notice how no one knows Ahmed Best's whereabouts? Coincidence? I think not!
:lol
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How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love STAR WARS Again | Badass Digest
Looking back at this article now from Aug 2014 makes you realize why he was optimistic while he also hinted about these big changes. This is a good example of writing where you engage and excite your readers, without spoiling things for them.
The same reason Badass Digest reported the rest and withheld this (as explained in article on page 361 that they are still not posting it), even though they all knew it for sometime now. They didn't want to spoil such a big plot detail. Devin from BAD alluded about these shakeups in the story on Twitter several weeks ago but didn't give it away. Though now most will likely start reporting it.
How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love STAR WARS Again | Badass Digest
Looking back at this article now from Aug 2014 makes you realize why he was optimistic while he also hinted about these big changes. This is a good example of writing where you engage and excite your readers, without spoiling things for them.
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Luke and Leia. Holy Moses, she dropped the lbs and that beard keeps getting bigger.
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RougeAvenger81
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Saw this article and gave it some thought. It's a possibility and not far from the EU or something that kind of happened in one of the books after ROTJ, but I will let you read and come to your own conclusion. Take it with a grain of salt, however it could be a major spoiler so read it at your own risk. I put the link in spoiler tags because I don't want someone to click on it not realizing it could potentially be real and ruin it for them.
Saw this article and gave it some thought. It's a possibility and not far from the EU or something that kind of happened in one of the books after ROTJ, but I will let you read and come to your own conclusion. Take it with a grain of salt, however it could be a major spoiler so read it at your own risk. I put the link in spoiler tags because I don't want someone to click on it not realizing it could potentially be real and ruin it for them.
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Exactly. That's why I didn't like the Dark Empire series. If this rumor is true I'm done with new SW. That's just dumb. In fact it's about the dumbest thing they could come up with.
Exactly. That's why I didn't like the Dark Empire series. If this rumor is true I'm done with new SW. That's just dumb. In fact it's about the dumbest thing they could come up with.
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