Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[Zombie_61]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

...I say: stop speculating and expressing your desires for the next movie(s), and just go see 'em when they come out. Then you can be disappointed for what's actually in the movie, not what isn't (and you believed there should have been).:facepalm

+1. We can all sit at our computers and post about what we want the next three movies to be about and which characters should and/or shouldn't appear in them, but the bottom line is that it's all nothing more than mental masturbation--it makes us feel good, but it doesn't accomplish anything. As it has always been, Lucasfilm (and now Disney) will do what they want with the Star Wars franchise regardless of what we fans want; all we can do is wait to see what they come up with, then decide whether or not we like it.

 

[CTF]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Brain masturbation?!

 

[Riceball]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Jedi have lightsabers. That's a given. It's a Jedi weapon. The fact the Sith had them too in the PT totally killed the Emperors comment in RotJ about it being a Jedi weapon fall flat on its ass as a scuffing insult.

But it makes sense since by the time of the prequels, and probably for quite some time before as well, Sith had become something of an evil version of the Jedi, an Anti-Jedi if you will. That's why I never thought twice about the Sith having light sabers, I guess that, to me, they were not only the weapon of Jedis but all force users.

 

[seelsa73]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Jedi have lightsabers. That's a given. It's a Jedi weapon. The fact the Sith had them too in the PT totally killed the Emperors comment in RotJ about it being a Jedi weapon fall flat on its ass as a scuffing insult.

You do know Darth Vader was a Sith, right? Remember when he fought both Obi-Wan and Luke...with a lightsaber? It was never JUST Jedi who carried lightsabers, so the emperors comment fell flat long before the PT came out.

 

[TKSteve]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

+1. We can all sit at our computers and post about what we want the next three movies to be about and which characters should and/or shouldn't appear in them, but the bottom line is that it's all nothing more than mental masturbation--it makes us feel good, but it doesn't accomplish anything. As it has always been, Lucasfilm (and now Disney) will do what they want with the Star Wars franchise regardless of what we fans want; all we can do is wait to see what they come up with, then decide whether or not we like it.

Exactly, LOL. This is why people went into Ep. I expecting it was going to be the first Matrix, then left talking about Lucas effing their childhood.

 

[clancampbell]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

You do know Darth Vader was a Sith, right? Remember when he fought both Obi-Wan and Luke...with a lightsaber? It was never JUST Jedi who carried lightsabers, so the emperors comment fell flat long before the PT came out.

No, Vader BECAME a Sith....he was described by Obi-Wan as "a young Jedi".....when i was young, i always thought Vader had altered his Jedi Weapon to be more powerful, hence, the red colour.

I also believed that Jedi used lightsabers, bad guys just used the dark side of the Force. That's what made them bad.....( a Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defence, never for attack...)

Nobody ever knew The Emperor was Sith...(The only Sith we knew was Vader, like he was the last recruit of an evil sect.)..and i still find it disappointing to this day.....He wasn't Palpatine.....he was THE EMPEROR!!! Just a really powerful, evil, Force user.

Then Lucas had to try and explain everything and it all became quite hum-drum and boring......(oh, you mean it's all politics????)

Rich

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

You do know Darth Vader was a Sith, right? Remember when he fought both Obi-Wan and Luke...with a lightsaber? It was never JUST Jedi who carried lightsabers, so the emperors comment fell flat long before the PT came out.

You do know he was a Jedi before that right... and the Emperor scuffed at him too for carrying the weapon.

"A Jedi's weapon. Much like your fathers."

The Emperor didn't need such Jedi weapons to do his thing in RotJ - he looked down upon them and those who used them, meaning Vader as well, for the very fact that he couldn't let go of that Jedi part of him... which is what Luke sensed and why he believed he could be redeemed.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

+1. We can all sit at our computers and post about what we want the next three movies to be about and which characters should and/or shouldn't appear in them, but the bottom line is that it's all nothing more than mental masturbation--it makes us feel good, but it doesn't accomplish anything.

But I'm not here to accomplish anything, I'm here to feel good! And nothing makes me feel more good than sitting at my computer droning on and on about what the new SW movies should be.

 

[Zenwalker]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

STAR WARS

Episode VII

RISE OF THE MANDALORIANS




That's what I think would be cool.

And that way we could see Boba Fett come back as leader of the Mandalorian Warrior race which has begun to take over systems on the edges of the galaxy. I don't think it would be to hard to imagine Fett escaping the Sarlaac Pit, especially with all the gadgets he's carrying. Against this backdrop and in the midst of this new threat Luke Skywalker is trying to finish training a new order of Jedi, one of which is his son. His son is unbalanced and has a strange fascination with Vader and has shown to be ambivalent toward the Jedi Order at a young age, much like his Grandfather.

Give the film a dark tone. Show the Manadalorians hit and run the Jedi forces in small effective numbers. And add in some guerilla warfare techniques on some the the planets they have overrun. Keep the effects lean and interesting with not a lot of glossy CGI, make the battles gritty and poetically violent.

At the end Fett hunts down and kills Solo in revenge (Harrison Ford gets his wish).:lol

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

You do know he was a Jedi before that right... and the Emperor scuffed at him too for carrying the weapon.

"A Jedi's weapon. Much like your fathers."

The Emperor didn't need such Jedi weapons to do his thing in RotJ - he looked down upon them and those who used them, meaning Vader as well, for the very fact that he couldn't let go of that Jedi part of him... which is what Luke sensed and why he believed he could be redeemed.

It would appear the only sith to fit that mold would be the emperor...

Darth Tyranus/Dooku - lightsaber
Maul - lightsaber (and a bass ass one at that).
Anakin/Vader - lightsaber.

If Palps is supposed to teach his apprentices the way of the sith, and the true way of the sith isn't a lightsaber, he must suck as a teacher

 

[Astrokid248]

Can someone post the quote in which Palpatine made fun of sabers? Because if it's the quote I'm thinking of, I thought he was just proclaiming himself to be too badass to need one.

 

[Dart]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

STAR WARS

Episode VII

RISE OF THE MANDALORIANS

Y'know... that might be really cool. Not sure it'd stretch out to three flicks but it'd make for an interesting one-shot flick.

 

[Falk]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Darth Tyranus/Dooku - lightsaber
Maul - lightsaber (and a bass ass one at that)

That implies you consider the so-called prequels "Star Wars"...

opcorn

 

[dt23]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

STAR WARS

Episode VII

RISE OF THE MANDALORIANS




That's what I think would be cool.

And that way we could see Boba Fett come back as leader of the Mandalorian Warrior race which has begun to take over systems on the edges of the galaxy. I don't think it would be to hard to imagine Fett escaping the Sarlaac Pit, especially with all the gadgets he's carrying. Against this backdrop and in the midst of this new threat Luke Skywalker is trying to finish training a new order of Jedi, one of which is his son. His son is unbalanced and has a strange fascination with Vader and has shown to be ambivalent toward the Jedi Order at a young age, much like his Grandfather.

Give the film a dark tone. Show the Manadalorians hit and run the Jedi forces in small effective numbers. And add in some guerilla warfare techniques on some the the planets they have overrun. Keep the effects lean and interesting with not a lot of glossy CGI, make the battles gritty and poetically violent.

At the end Fett hunts down and kills Solo in revenge (Harrison Ford gets his wish).:lol

that's great, I'd buy that! :thumbsup :thumbsup

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It would appear the only sith to fit that mold would be the emperor...

Darth Tyranus/Dooku - lightsaber
Maul - lightsaber (and a bass ass one at that).
Anakin/Vader - lightsaber.

If Palps is supposed to teach his apprentices the way of the sith, and the true way of the sith isn't a lightsaber, he must suck as a teacher

And two of those are ex-Jedi. So, it's basically just Maul and the prequel Palpatine that works against the RotJ comment.

The PT also made it seem that lightsaber usage was the top skill a Jedi or Sith could accomplish, making the Force secondary and basically insignificant, whereas in the OT any random joe could wield a lightsaber, but only a Jedi and Sith wielded the Force and the more you knew, the less you needed weapons and even the lightsaber.

You continually see Luke being bested by Force usage, in the duels he partake in, whereas he holds his ground pretty well, when they are just dueling with the sabers.

Can someone post the quote in which Palpatine made fun of sabers? Because if it's the quote I'm thinking of, I thought he was just proclaiming himself to be too badass to need one.

Could be. But any meaning is totally invalidated by his lightsaber usage in RotS. So... he's basically talking nonsense if you feel the PT has any value. It completely kills any bad-assery and weight to that comment, when it is clearly established in the PT that the Force is secondary to a lighstaber and Luke could just have avoided being zapped all to hell, by not throwing his saber away.

 

[dt23]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Hokey Religions & Ancient Weapons Are No Match For A Good Blaster At Your Side, Kid.

 

[Timmythekid]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Exactly, LOL. This is why people went into Ep. I expecting it was going to be the first Matrix, then left talking about Lucas effing their childhood.

No, that happened because apart from his story, Lucas completely dropped the ball on the execution of TPM. Even he knows it, as evidenced in "The Begining" - the movie had a lot of ideas in it, and a lot of things he wanted to accomplish, but it's a mess. It's a beautiful, catastrophic mess, but it's a mess.

And Mandalorians? Well, I guess maybe, but please no Fetts. Whatever mystique the character once had, LFL flushed it but good once they realized the character's popularity. Fett is done.

 

[eco]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

id love to get an extra part in ep7.
id fund gettin wherever its filmed myself just to say "thats me".

thatd fullfil my star wars life of 35years.

 

[Zenwalker]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

that's great, I'd buy that! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Great, I'll start working on the story treatment.:lol

No, that happened because apart from his story, Lucas completely dropped the ball on the execution of TPM. Even he knows it, as evidenced in "The Begining" - the movie had a lot of ideas in it, and a lot of things he wanted to accomplish, but it's a mess. It's a beautiful, catastrophic mess, but it's a mess.

And Mandalorians? Well, I guess maybe, but please no Fetts. Whatever mystique the character once had, LFL flushed it but good once they realized the character's popularity. Fett is done.

I agree to some extent the mystique that was Fett has been somewhat ruined by the prequels. But I still think there is something there to work with, especially the Manalorians as a warrior race akin to the ancient Greek Spartans. Before the prequels I always imagined the Mandalorians as an Aryan type race that messed with it's own genetic structure to heighten their warrior abilities and skills, had very little respect for other races, stuck mainly to themselves and were ruthless warriors.

Honestly, if I were Disney I would just bury the prequels in a vault and redo them after Episodes 7,8 and 9.

 

[gonk27]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

... unbalanced and has a strange fascination with Vader...

Forgive me for chopping down your post Zen, but that's a pretty apt description of any number of members here, myself included!