Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[jcoffman99]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I see it as, no matter what, everyone will say it's better than the prequels but not as good as the originals.

 

[Zombie_61]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I see it as, no matter what, everyone will say it's better than the prequels but not as good as the originals.

Unless they really screw it up, this is a strong possibility if for no other reason than because most fans hold the Original Trilogy movies in such high regard (well, A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back anyway).

 

[Father]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I see it as, no matter what, everyone will say it's better than the prequels but not as good as the originals.

Definitely this.

And even going back and watching the originals... the only one I really enjoy and can watch from beginning to end is ESB, followed by RotJ and then ANH. They were great when I was a kid, but I supposed either my standards gotten higher or I am too critical of older movies. I give it all the credit it has earned for being groundbreaking, trendsetting, and mindblowing.

The prequels had some good moments but I could never say they were anything more than a special effects extravaganza. The acting (even from the well established actors) was God awful more than likely in large part due to the God awful direction.

I have high hopes that these next three movies will be great, but I'm skeptical given then flaws of pretty much everything JJ Abrams has layed his hands on.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It wasn't George Lucas that made a bunch of people famous. It was a bunch of people, including Lucas, working together, that made a bunch of people, including Lucas, famous. They won awards for their work. When Lucas went back and thought "Nah, this isn't the way it should have been done" he was toying with other people's work. Not just his own.

AND FOR GOD'S SAKE! HAN SHOT FIRST!

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You have painted yourself into a fascinating paradox. If you wish to remove credit for the OT from GL in an effort to make your point by being a supporter for all the other creative people involved then you must also share the blame for your dislike of the PT accordingly. But keep trying, I enjoy this.

 

[rodneyfaile]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

A team of people working together made Star Wars. Employees made the prequels.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

A team of people working together made Star Wars. Employees made the prequels.

This.

Short and to the point.

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You have painted yourself into a fascinating paradox. If you wish to remove credit for the OT from GL in an effort to make your point by being a supporter for all the other creative people involved then you must also share the blame for your dislike of the PT accordingly. But keep trying, I enjoy this.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at. But I'm glad you're enjoying it.

 

[hansicle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It's like you read my mind!

Definitely this.

And even going back and watching the originals... the only one I really enjoy and can watch from beginning to end is ESB, followed by RotJ and then ANH. They were great when I was a kid, but I supposed either my standards gotten higher or I am too critical of older movies. I give it all the credit it has earned for being groundbreaking, trendsetting, and mindblowing.

The prequels had some good moments but I could never say they were anything more than a special effects extravaganza. The acting (even from the well established actors) was God awful more than likely in large part due to the God awful direction.

I have high hopes that these next three movies will be great, but I'm skeptical given then flaws of pretty much everything JJ Abrams has layed his hands on.

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

A team of people working together made Star Wars. Employees made the prequels.

Employees aren't people?

How will JJWars be any different? This isn't 1976-7, JJ isn't exactly going to recreate the blockbuster phenomenon Star Wars is - with a bunch of alleged "yes men" at his disposal.

 

[robstyle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

JD,

JJ's people arnt yes men and he has a much more massive amount of control than you could phanthom. As prior stated he has fought for core elements such as practical sets, location filming, actual miniatures, as limited as possible usage of CGI, shot on film... No other director would have stepped on on those points and held true. The issue is going to come back to the time frame thats been set by the suits for the films release. I suspect, just as with the original Star Wars, the film wont be completed as visioned upon release and tweaks will be made during or after the initial release. Just a hunch is all. That release date, again as prior mentioned, isnt practical for whats on the table. But that date is set.

 

[seelsa73]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

JD,

JJ's people arnt yes men and he has a much more massive amount of control than you could phanthom. As prior stated he has fought for core elements such as practical sets, location filming, actual miniatures, as limited as possible usage of CGI, shot on film... No other director would have stepped on on those points and held true. The issue is going to come back to the time frame thats been set by the suits for the films release. I suspect, just as with the original Star Wars, the film wont be completed as visioned upon release and tweaks will be made during or after the initial release. Just a hunch is all. That release date, again as prior mentioned, isnt practical for whats on the table. But that date is set.

That date is more than practical when you consider how long they've already had to be working on this movie...but hey if they push it back to may 2016 instead of December I would be cool with that.

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

That date is more than practical when you consider how long they've already had to be working on this movie...but hey if they push it back to may 2016 instead of December I would be cool with that.

We have just under 2 years to do this and, as far as anyone knows, don't even have a finished screenplay, let alone anyone cast (yes, that includes the Big Three), or any of the pre-production stuff done that'd be necessary to do the film right. This all may be in the works, but if so, nobody knows about it. We don't know how long of a shoot they'll do, either, nor what kind of post-production schedule they have. But it seems pretty tight to me to get EVERYTHING done in just under 2 years. My hope is that we're a lot further along in the process than news stories would have us believe, but we honestly don't know. I, too, would be fine with a 2016 opening...but the bean counters have a plan, and I would expect things to stick to that plan.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I hope they take as much time as they need to produce a film that will meet the expectations of Star Wars fans. I would deal with it being pushed back to 2017 if that were the case. I have a lot of faith in the crew that's working on it though and I believe they can get it done in the time they've been given, at this point.

 

[Father]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

No other director would have stepped on on those points and held true.

I'd argue that one. I think there are still a few hig-profile directors who would prefer to take the same approach. Peter Jackson immediately comes to mind although I can't imagine him doing a sci-fi epic after so many years of fantasy epics?

 

[joberg]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

That's the thing, JJ is an intelligent man and he knows that to please the fans, ranging from 7 to 77 years old, he has to go back to the Source (as Rob said) and cannot re-invent the wheel...that's right, the Source (or the Force)it's the only way. He has already checked a few main boxes and by doing so cannot be accused later on of not respecting the bases that makes StarWars.

 

[Father]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

First thing they need to do in this movie is a historical flashback taking us on a trip to the planet where midichrlorians were first discovered by the Jedi-Prime... I think it was a Gungan pioneer that found this place. Then he clones himself, so he has a little son/side-kick and injects the clone with the midichlorians during a dance/music montage sequence.

 

[chaosprince]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I hope they take as much time as they need to produce a film that will meet the expectations of Star Wars fans. I would deal with it being pushed back to 2017 if that were the case. I have a lot of faith in the crew that's working on it though and I believe they can get it done in the time they've been given, at this point.

I agree wholly.
Shoot, push the films to 2020 and I would be okay with it, knowing that the time they put into the movie will reflect the final product.

Seriously though, it's coming out pretty soon considering how recently the project was picked up and initiated into development.
I'm excited to see the cast and the story.
Those are my two main big concerns pre-shoot.

After that, cinematography and post-production should take at least a good 8 months in my opinion.

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First thing they need to do in this movie is a historical flashback taking us on a trip to the planet where midichrlorians were first discovered by the Jedi-Prime... I think it was a Gungan pioneer that found this place. Then he clones himself, so he has a little son/side-kick and injects the clone with the midichlorians during a dance/music montage sequence.

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

JD,

JJ's people arnt yes men and he has a much more massive amount of control than you could phanthom. As prior stated he has fought for core elements such as practical sets, location filming, actual miniatures, as limited as possible usage of CGI, shot on film... No other director would have stepped on on those points and held true. The issue is going to come back to the time frame thats been set by the suits for the films release. I suspect, just as with the original Star Wars, the film wont be completed as visioned upon release and tweaks will be made during or after the initial release. Just a hunch is all. That release date, again as prior mentioned, isnt practical for whats on the table. But that date is set.

We all know what happens when we assume. Your last half of your first sentence implies a lot and might even counter the first half... "and he has a much more massive amount of control than you could phanthom." (And I can "phanthom" (sic) quite a bit).

The simple fact is we don't know what kind of movie JJ Abrams will produce. We don't know that all Lucas dealt with was a bunch of "yes men" during the prequel trilogy. Maybe Arndt is not with production anymore is because he wasn't caving to JJ's will?

Speculate all you want, everyone else here does. I am curious as to why the casting and scripting is taking as long as it is seeming to... lots of rumors.

 

[robstyle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'd argue that one. I think there are still a few hig-profile directors who would prefer to take the same approach. Peter Jackson immediately comes to mind although I can't imagine him doing a sci-fi epic after so many years of fantasy epics?

Please no Peter Jackson, just, no. no no no no.... Unless they have an Ewok movie then he can run with it.

 

[robstyle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Speculate all you want, everyone else here does.

There is more than speculation going on around here but time will tell. Then again this is the internet, im a race car astronaut secret agent playboy billionaire.

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

When I think of it, I try and remind myself this is a guy who's been able to hold the contents of two flicks secret for the most part (that monster movie and Super 8) if not more. Additionally, we live in a time where they were able to keep the contents of certain who episodes and the 50th anniversary special under wraps as well.

Just because the entire basis of a movie is leaked before release doesn't preclude them from being able to keep one completely secret. I don't know that that's the case here, i just hope that it is. It does seem the general assumption here is that because we know nothing, nothing has happened yet. That, i don't believe.

The guy calling the shots is a proven secret keeper. That's not in debate. I go with that until i hear proof otherwise.