Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[JoeG]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Not really, they have his outlines for what happens post ROTJ, which they are supposedly using. He's also a consultant.

I doubt they are beholden to do anything GL said. They may choose to, but it wouldnt seem like Disney to buy Lucasfilm and not have total control.

 

[JLeezy23]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Lucas has been made a creative consultant, or THE creative consultant for the films, idk. I guess its cool to let him over see things even though he sold it. Kinda like how a previous owner of anything would check up on stuff and give pointers when theyre needed

 

[robstyle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

"creative consultant" keeps a paycheck coming in, has no final word or power to change/alter/demand anything what so ever. In other words GL is the face of SW just as Colonel Sanders was the face of KFC after he sold it, his likeness still is.

 

[Laspector]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

"creative consultant" keeps a paycheck coming in, has no final word or power to change/alter/demand anything what so ever. In other words GL is the face of SW just as Colonel Sanders was the face of KFC after he sold it, his likeness still is.

This is true. Just like how Stan Lee gets the title Executive Producer on every Marvel film. He has admitted (many times) that all he does is show up for his cameo and that's it. Granted, Lucas may have more input than that, but it just shows that titles sometimes do not mean anything.

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

"creative consultant" keeps a paycheck coming in, has no final word or power to change/alter/demand anything what so ever. In other words GL is the face of SW just as Colonel Sanders was the face of KFC after he sold it, his likeness still is.

Exactly, totally out of the picture. So again why?

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I was inclined to be dismissive as well of GL's involvement in the project post acquisition, but Jet Lucas was quoted as saying his Dad was in daily contact with JJ and Kyle Newman on RebelForce Radio also imbued he knew GL was very much still involved in the story and script development. I welcome that, I think as a consultant, he can offer a great deal as long as JJ and Kasdan get final say.

 

[rodneyfaile]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'm sure they consult Lucas ... get a few ideas ....... he is a great source ..... on what NOT to do.

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Hey now. I've long maintained that Lucas is an amazing idea man, as long as you only take the gold and leave or modify the rest.

Out of 10 total ideas Lucas has:

A) 5 are total crap. The kind of thing that people needed to say to him "George....that is a REALLY stupid idea. We're not doing that. What else ya got?"

B) 3 are pretty good, and can be made amazing with some tweaks. I'm talking like if Lucas had said something like "And then at the end, Vader will say 'No...I am your UNCLE!!!' I think that'd really be interesting."

C) 2 are the stuff of genius that leaves everyone amazed.

The original trilogy, and particularly the first two chapters, saw mostly B and C. You started seeing A show up a teensy bit in ROTJ. The prequels were A, B, and C. Except that B wasn't modified from the original idea.


Lucas as the behind-the-scenes consultant for the films, tossing out ideas that are rejected, accepted, and modified, that works. Lucas as the primary guy whose whims are totally unrestrained...not so good.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I will literally never forgive him for destroying the master copies of the original trilogy. I lost a lot of respect for him even before the disaster known as The Phantom Menace came out.

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[joberg]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

"Lucas- behind- the- scene": that's why I love what Kersh did on ESB.:cool Lucas did only two classics: "American Grafitti" and "StarWars" period (you cannot be a genius every time)

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

How pitiful is it that some folks still feel the need to disparage Lucas rather than just comment on Episode VII - the film that this topic is supposed to be about.

The prequel trilogy was successful and made lots of cash. Get over it.

 

[Jaitea]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

How pitiful is it that some folks still feel the need to disparage Lucas rather than just comment on Episode VII - the film that this topic is supposed to be about.

The prequel trilogy was successful and made lots of cash. Get over it.

Yeah, but they weren't great,....would you be happy if the new episodes were as critically bad as them?

J

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah, but they weren't great,....would you be happy if the new episodes were as critically bad as them?

J

I can't help it folks can't get over the prequels. Start a thread if you want to discuss it.

 

[Jaitea]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think we are all on topic, we're talking about the next episodes of Star Wars,..... Georges relationship with them,....and our fears if it goes wrong again,....nobody whining,.....relax

J

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think we are all on topic, we're talking about the next episodes of Star Wars,..... Georges relationship with them,....and our fears if it goes wrong again,....nobody whining,.....relax

J

Nope. It's the typical let's bash the prequels nonsense. Some folks liked them, George Lucas made them, they made lots of money... get over it. Be constructive about it rather than simply bash it. Too many whiners just mindlessly bash them... be better than that or find a different thread or medium to waste bandwidth - we get it, some folks didn't like the prequels, be constructive on how it relates to the VII or go someplace else to change your diaper.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Nope. It's the typical let's bash the prequels nonsense. Some folks liked them, George Lucas made them, they made lots of money... get over it. Be constructive about it rather than simply bash it. Too many whiners just mindlessly bash them... be better than that or find a different thread or medium to waste bandwidth - we get it, some folks didn't like the prequels, be constructive on how it relates to the VII or go someplace else to change your diaper.

Meh...

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[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Meh...

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Exactly.

:facepalm

 

[rodneyfaile]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

How pitiful is it that some folks still feel the need to disparage Lucas rather than just comment on Episode VII - the film that this topic is supposed to be about.

The prequel trilogy was successful and made lots of cash. Get over it.

First off, my comment was in response to Lucas being a consultant on Episode VII, so it was in fact related to Episode VII, thank you very much. This thread does have over 200 pages, and there is VERY LITTLE info on Episode VII right now, so I am thinking subject matter is kinda liberal at this time anyway.

If making a lot of cash was the only intention, then yes, those movies were successful.
If they wanted to make actual Star Wars movies that were good movies, then no, they were not successful.

Justin Bieber and One Direction make tons of money. I wouldn't consider their music to be very good though.

The amount of money a movie earns has zero to do with how successful I consider a movie to be.

Hey now. I've long maintained that Lucas is an amazing idea man, as long as you only take the gold and leave or modify the rest.

You have a point. Lucas is responsible for creating the Star Wars universe and Indiana Jones. He is a great conceptualist. (<---is that a word? lol)

But when was the last time he had a great idea? It wasn't just his directing that was bad in the prequel trilogy, the writing was bad too. As he himself said, he became the type of corporation he once opposed.


Sorry if I touched a nerve on some people. I thank Lucas for a tremendous amount of joy in my childhood, and even now as an adult, but selling Star Wars was 100% the best thing he could have done.

... be constructive on how it relates to the VII or go someplace else...

My opinion will be whatever I want it to be. If you don't like it, you go someplace else. I'm not trolling or being disruptive. We are not required to only like things. I'm happy Lucas is only a consultant, and I will express that opinion, and many others, whenever the subject arises.

 

[niennumb1]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

There better be a crap load more official news at the beginning of the year. This year has sucked holding out on updates. It's been like trying to watch a cauldron boil off a mini camp stove!

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

First off, my comment was in response to Lucas being a consultant on Episode VII, so it was in fact related to Episode VII, thank you very much. This thread does have over 200 pages, and there is VERY LITTLE info on Episode VII right now, so I am thinking subject matter is kinda liberal at this time anyway.

If making a lot of cash was the only intention, then yes, those movies were successful.
If they wanted to make actual Star Wars movies that were good movies, then no, they were not successful.

Justin Bieber and One Direction make tons of money. I wouldn't consider their music to be very good though.

The amount of money a movie earns has zero to do with how successful I consider a movie to be.

Wow, someone feels guilty I was not singling you or anyone in particular out.

You're entitled to your opinion... and just because you don't like a certain artist (be it Bieber or One Direction or Led Zeppelin or Johnny Cash), it doesn't make their art any less appealing to those that do. You're not the audience or someone that it would appeal to - that doesn't make it bad. If I were 11 years old or 51 - that has a lot to say about what I like and what I find "good."