Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)
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NAZGÛL
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Agreed this is plausable. I can see Luke having a bigger part though. Actually I hope he has. Lukes jorney was great in the OT, and a story worth continuing IMO.
Agreed this is plausable. I can see Luke having a bigger part though. Actually I hope he has. Lukes jorney was great in the OT, and a story worth continuing IMO.
Colin Droidmilk
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We always hear Ford dissing Solo in preference for his later roles, but frankly I got sick of seeing the guy in all these sour-faced, dull, morose roles, Ryan, Fugitive etc. - roles that sometimes make Solo look like the more fully-rounded character! His first post-SW serious roles, in BR, and Witness, were great but boy did his serious stuff tail off. Apart from these two and maybe Frantic, Ford's most interesting piece of serious acting that I've seen post-SW was the tiny but very effective part in Apocalypse Now. I always wished we could see him do more work like that.
I'm surprised he's so hostile to the Solo role - I mean in the first film. It's actually quite a broad role. In some ways broader than some of his later stuff. The role lets him do heroic and romantic, but also comedy - classy comedy in the old Hollywood tradition of screwball (His Girl Friday etc.). Which he's very good at. I've missed that 'Golden Age Hollywood' side of him. We only ever really saw it in SW and here and there in the Indy films. A waste.
We always hear Ford dissing Solo in preference for his later roles, but frankly I got sick of seeing the guy in all these sour-faced, dull, morose roles, Ryan, Fugitive etc. - roles that sometimes make Solo look like the more fully-rounded character! His first post-SW serious roles, in BR, and Witness, were great but boy did his serious stuff tail off. Apart from these two and maybe Frantic, Ford's most interesting piece of serious acting that I've seen post-SW was the tiny but very effective part in Apocalypse Now. I always wished we could see him do more work like that.
I'm surprised he's so hostile to the Solo role - I mean in the first film. It's actually quite a broad role. In some ways broader than some of his later stuff. The role lets him do heroic and romantic, but also comedy - classy comedy in the old Hollywood tradition of screwball (His Girl Friday etc.). Which he's very good at. I've missed that 'Golden Age Hollywood' side of him. We only ever really saw it in SW and here and there in the Indy films. A waste.
rodneyfaile
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Don't forget Presumed Innocent and The Fugitive.
Don't forget Presumed Innocent and The Fugitive.
Too Much Garlic
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IMDB is notorious for being slow with updating their lists.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
We got a writer!
It's Official: Michael Arndt to Draft Star Wars: Episode VII - ComingSoon.net
We got a writer!
It's Official: Michael Arndt to Draft Star Wars: Episode VII - ComingSoon.net
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Awesome. Glad to see it's official. He's a fantastic writer, Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3 were both brilliant. I'm sure the new storyline he'll come up with will be awesome. I'm a bit curious/worried about how he's going to handle a Star Wars script, considering he hasn't been tasked with anything like this before. I'm sure we'll all be pleased with what he delivers though. I just hope they go with a darker tone.
Awesome. Glad to see it's official. He's a fantastic writer, Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3 were both brilliant. I'm sure the new storyline he'll come up with will be awesome. I'm a bit curious/worried about how he's going to handle a Star Wars script, considering he hasn't been tasked with anything like this before. I'm sure we'll all be pleased with what he delivers though. I just hope they go with a darker tone.
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I haven't found him to be all that hard on Solo in the first film. It's just that his arc was over by the end of that film, and Ford felt the character was stagnant for the remaining two, and I can understand him not feeling particularly engaged as an actor at that point.
I haven't found him to be all that hard on Solo in the first film. It's just that his arc was over by the end of that film, and Ford felt the character was stagnant for the remaining two, and I can understand him not feeling particularly engaged as an actor at that point.
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I think he can write great characters and that's what STAR WARS needs.
I think he can write great characters and that's what STAR WARS needs.
neosporing
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not sure how he'll do with stipulations like using uncle george's original treatment and shoe-horning in the OT characters... i didn't tom stoppard help out with ATOC; look what a miserable mess that was.
Also considering all of the writing he's been doing lately, is he human? the guy must be burnt out.
not sure how he'll do with stipulations like using uncle george's original treatment and shoe-horning in the OT characters... i didn't tom stoppard help out with ATOC; look what a miserable mess that was.
Also considering all of the writing he's been doing lately, is he human? the guy must be burnt out.
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Funny, I would have expected the second film to have been much more fun/interesting to shoot from Ford's perspective. Between Kershner directing, the script, and the tone of the whole thing . . . It would seem like a lot more to sink your teeth into from his shoes.
I agree his character arc was over by the end of ESB, but I don't think Han Solo got boring any time before then.
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Funny, I would have expected the second film to have been much more fun/interesting to shoot from Ford's perspective. Between Kershner directing, the script, and the tone of the whole thing . . . It would seem like a lot more to sink your teeth into from his shoes.
I agree his character arc was over by the end of ESB, but I don't think Han Solo got boring any time before then.
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DARTH SABER
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Well, it looks like Disney is indeed dipping into Pixar for Epvii. (Good news IMO)
First we have the writer of Toy Story 3, and now Brad Bird is being considered for directltor.
Oscar Winner Michael Arndt Confirmed as Star Wars: Episode VII writer
Well, it looks like Disney is indeed dipping into Pixar for Epvii. (Good news IMO)
First we have the writer of Toy Story 3, and now Brad Bird is being considered for directltor.
Oscar Winner Michael Arndt Confirmed as Star Wars: Episode VII writer
ozz
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I never said the story would be written following any EU book storyline. Just that the books will have to have some kind of impact on the movie story, and that it will take place after ROTJ (not directly where it left off). Nor that they will be using any of the EU characters, or stories in the movies. I never said that. No one knows that...yet. I simply stated that it would effect some of the story line, not that it would BE the storyline. (Tho (IMO), if they insert Han and Leias' kids, I can't foresee them re-naming them)
T.Z. has already stated that the movies were more than likely not going to follow his books. Whether they use any of it or not, is entirely up to them:
"You go away for a weekend...
We got home from Tampa and Necronomicon late last night (after a full day of flying) to the stunning news of the Disney/Lucasfilm deal. It's going to take a little time to process my thoughts, but I'll try to post some comments here later today.
But to answer a few of the most immediate questions:
1. No, I haven't been contacted by either Disney or LFL.
2. There's no indication that anything from the Thrawn Trilogy (or any other EU book/comic will be part of the new movies.
3. There's also no indication that they *won't* make an appearance. Right now, we really have nothing on any of those details.
4. If Disney *did* want to use anything from the EU, they wouldn't need the author's approval or permission to do so. Everything that's been written under the Star Wars logo is LFL properly (as is only right and proper), and they can do with it as they please.
5. If by some miracle Disney *does* want my input on the project, I *will* be on the next flight to California. Heck, I'll charter a plane if I have to.
That's all for now. More thoughts when my brain wakes up a bit." ~Timothy Zahn
The books have had an impact already on the movies dialogue. Ep III for instance. It has an impact on the banter between Obi and Anikin, and how they "owed" each other for saving one another from past conflicts, and whenever they say "remember what we did on ____?".... found only in the books.
If I were to throw out an exact reference link between EU and the movies, it would be.... Boba Fett. Fett was brought into the movies because the fans liked the character, even tho the source (SW Holiday Special) sucked. His character has created at least one (or more) additional characters for the SW movies alone, and influenced the storyline dramatically. No Boba, no Jango, the clones would have been slightly effected (they would still be created, just different story), Han's character....
So, to say that the books would not effect the movie, would not be entirely true. My EU "reference" was strictly saying the above...At no time was I saying that the movies would be BASED on the EU or any books. I was simply saying that if they killed off a character in the Books (EU), that they wouldn't write that character into the movie AFTER the book killed them off. (Unless the movie took part before this happened).
We will all have to wait and see what is true....
Sorry for the confusion.
I never said the story would be written following any EU book storyline. Just that the books will have to have some kind of impact on the movie story, and that it will take place after ROTJ (not directly where it left off). Nor that they will be using any of the EU characters, or stories in the movies. I never said that. No one knows that...yet. I simply stated that it would effect some of the story line, not that it would BE the storyline. (Tho (IMO), if they insert Han and Leias' kids, I can't foresee them re-naming them)
T.Z. has already stated that the movies were more than likely not going to follow his books. Whether they use any of it or not, is entirely up to them:
"You go away for a weekend...
We got home from Tampa and Necronomicon late last night (after a full day of flying) to the stunning news of the Disney/Lucasfilm deal. It's going to take a little time to process my thoughts, but I'll try to post some comments here later today.
But to answer a few of the most immediate questions:
1. No, I haven't been contacted by either Disney or LFL.
2. There's no indication that anything from the Thrawn Trilogy (or any other EU book/comic will be part of the new movies.
3. There's also no indication that they *won't* make an appearance. Right now, we really have nothing on any of those details.
4. If Disney *did* want to use anything from the EU, they wouldn't need the author's approval or permission to do so. Everything that's been written under the Star Wars logo is LFL properly (as is only right and proper), and they can do with it as they please.
5. If by some miracle Disney *does* want my input on the project, I *will* be on the next flight to California. Heck, I'll charter a plane if I have to.
That's all for now. More thoughts when my brain wakes up a bit." ~Timothy Zahn
The books have had an impact already on the movies dialogue. Ep III for instance. It has an impact on the banter between Obi and Anikin, and how they "owed" each other for saving one another from past conflicts, and whenever they say "remember what we did on ____?".... found only in the books.
If I were to throw out an exact reference link between EU and the movies, it would be.... Boba Fett. Fett was brought into the movies because the fans liked the character, even tho the source (SW Holiday Special) sucked. His character has created at least one (or more) additional characters for the SW movies alone, and influenced the storyline dramatically. No Boba, no Jango, the clones would have been slightly effected (they would still be created, just different story), Han's character....
So, to say that the books would not effect the movie, would not be entirely true. My EU "reference" was strictly saying the above...At no time was I saying that the movies would be BASED on the EU or any books. I was simply saying that if they killed off a character in the Books (EU), that they wouldn't write that character into the movie AFTER the book killed them off. (Unless the movie took part before this happened).
We will all have to wait and see what is true....
Sorry for the confusion.
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