Wolfsburg
Master Member
Ugh, No thanks.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)
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Ugh, No thanks.
astroboy
Master Member
I am continually shocked by the scorn that show gets and the praise for rebels.
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joshvanrad
Sr Member
As soon as I heard "Skyguy" I knew I was going to hate CW,
I think TFA is going to have the opposite journey as the PT. In that, the more people watched the PT, the more it fell into plot holes, failed writing, and felt less and less like the Star Wars we were promised. The more people watch TFA, and with the coming releases I think people will come to enjoy TFA more and more. We've already seen statements supporting that from numerous people here. TFA will find it's spot in the Star Wars universe as a very solid movie and addition (excluding the Rathtars bit) when the full trilogy is out available to everyone.
I think TFA is going to have the opposite journey as the PT. In that, the more people watched the PT, the more it fell into plot holes, failed writing, and felt less and less like the Star Wars we were promised. The more people watch TFA, and with the coming releases I think people will come to enjoy TFA more and more. We've already seen statements supporting that from numerous people here. TFA will find it's spot in the Star Wars universe as a very solid movie and addition (excluding the Rathtars bit) when the full trilogy is out available to everyone.
cboath
Master Member
I was going to say, the two are never even in the same scene until AFTER han is a block of carbonite. Fett was not Han's villain. Not sure he even had one, but if he did it'd be jabba - and they never fought directly either.
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As to the style of TFA - i think that what it borrows from ANH/ESB could very well be intenional in the story line itself.
As the old saying goes, those who don't learn from their history are doomed to repeat it. The good guys won - then preceded to take the empire lightly by signing a treaty and basically disarming themsevles - apparently with absolutely no oversight of the former empire to make sure they weren't building up arms. All that smacks of the WWI/WWII stuff we all know about from our own history. The jedi are (seemingly) forgotten by all but a couple on each side, etc...
Clearly the galaxy didn't learn the first time around. Hopefully a good portion of this is addressed in E8...
Solo4114
Master Member
Insofar as I think that long-form, episodic storytelling is arguably more enjoyable than a condensed, 2-2.5hr movie, I agree. That said, while I enjoy the Clone Wars cartoon (mostly beginning with the end of Season 1), it definitely had its uneven/weak aspects.
I've really enjoyed Rebels. I find that it has the "feel" of the first film, or at least gets as close to that as you can get. I think they could stand to develop things more, but we'll see where it goes. It's fun right now, though, and i've been really enjoying how it sort of incorporates the world-building elements from the EU (if not the plot points).
Contec
Master Member
Not FIGHT fight... more his nemesis.
JediG60racer
Sr Member
Other than that incident where Fett nearly takes Han captive in The Star Wars Holiday Special, after pretending to be his friend, they had no interaction at all until Han is freed from carbonite and about to be sacrificed to the Sarlaac. Unless he was that bounty hunder on Oord Mantell that Han refers to in ESB, but we still have no canon history of what that actually entailed.
Personally I liked the Star Wars comic book storyline where Fett was a woman, and jilted ex/partner of Han's from smuggling. That was far more interesting than his actual portrayed screen history.
Personally I liked the Star Wars comic book storyline where Fett was a woman, and jilted ex/partner of Han's from smuggling. That was far more interesting than his actual portrayed screen history.
I loved CW as well. They canceled it because it was $$$$$.
astroboy
Master Member
astroboy
Master Member
They dropped the sky guy stuff immediately. And ashoka grew to become one of the best characters in the galaxy. She's up there with obi wan, luke, anakin, and leia .
I firmly believe that she was much more important to anakin's "fall" than anything to do with padme
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annanake
Sr Member
Would not surprise me if Disney did use intimidation ! they used in on a theatre chain that QT had reserved for the opening of the hateful 8 on Christmas over a year ago because they were still set. Up to show 70 mm and Disney told them to break there contract with QT over that one location for that one showtime or they would pull star wars from the entire chain of 30 or so theatre's ! QT is sueing them now because they did as Disney told them and he had to retrofit a theater for his premiere.
Wolfsburg
Master Member
I think the thing I liked most with Rebels is the mining from old concept art. It was neat to see that stuff pop up but season 2 quickly became a snoozefest for me.
annanake
Sr Member
That's something I was wondering was he stuck there ? That is why he could not be found his shipped crashed or broke or he got abandoned there somehow unable to leave . I like that better than him just hiding out while everyone else battled on .
annanake
Sr Member
Or another force baby like anakin who freaked her mother out when she startes manifesting powers ! With that video in mind I repeat what I said pages ago about the music used when palpatin disscuses plagus with anakin in the theater to snokes cadence they are very similar as well
Opps I did not see you mention the smoke theme thing I jusdt watched the bid sorry.
Ahh every time I put snoke it auto corrects me!!!!! Argh and leaves jusdt like it is a word lol
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To those who are unforgiving of the plot similarities between TFA and ANH:
By the same standard why isn't anybody critical of Fury Road for being just as derivative of The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome? Max is the reluctant savior of a bunch of people he encounters in the wasteland and is the only one who can protect them from an evil gang.
In The Road Warrior Max falls in with the great northern tribe. In Thunderdome it’s those Blue Lagoon kids. In Fury Road it’s the brides. Max starts by hating those people and ends up being their reluctant savior.
Lord Humungous = Aunty Entity = Immortal Joe.
Wez=Blaster=Rictus
Gyro Captain=Jedediah=Nux ... heck, they even used the same actor for the Gyro Captain and Jedediah
All three movies feature a "promised land" (north coast = "civilization" = "Green Place") where the people want to go and inevitably end up at Bartertown/Joe's Citadel.
All three movies have the exact same climax featuring a large rig of some sort pursued by smaller vehicles.
In fact even less happens in larger arc of these films than in SW. Max begins and ends in the exact same situation and lives the same story over and over again in each movie.
And yet Fury Road is universally praised... that's because, like TFA, it's one of those films whose virtues are in the execution and the journey. TFA has special meaning for those who have known and loved Star Wars and felt something was lost after 1977 or 1980.
By the same standard why isn't anybody critical of Fury Road for being just as derivative of The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome? Max is the reluctant savior of a bunch of people he encounters in the wasteland and is the only one who can protect them from an evil gang.
In The Road Warrior Max falls in with the great northern tribe. In Thunderdome it’s those Blue Lagoon kids. In Fury Road it’s the brides. Max starts by hating those people and ends up being their reluctant savior.
Lord Humungous = Aunty Entity = Immortal Joe.
Wez=Blaster=Rictus
Gyro Captain=Jedediah=Nux ... heck, they even used the same actor for the Gyro Captain and Jedediah
All three movies feature a "promised land" (north coast = "civilization" = "Green Place") where the people want to go and inevitably end up at Bartertown/Joe's Citadel.
All three movies have the exact same climax featuring a large rig of some sort pursued by smaller vehicles.
In fact even less happens in larger arc of these films than in SW. Max begins and ends in the exact same situation and lives the same story over and over again in each movie.
And yet Fury Road is universally praised... that's because, like TFA, it's one of those films whose virtues are in the execution and the journey. TFA has special meaning for those who have known and loved Star Wars and felt something was lost after 1977 or 1980.
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