Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)

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The scavenger Rey saves BB-8 from: the AT-PT hull the beast is wearing makes this the first canonical appearance of that vehicle, which up to now appeared only in the EU.

Sorry if old news.
 
As for the bonus features, we already know there's another release of the film coming.. the "3D release later this year" that they mentioned. I don't think that's going to be just a 3D version, I think that's going to be the big-ass Collector's Edition with all the bonus features and commentaries and all the stuff that's missing from this release.

I watched the documentary on the BD tonight, and while it's not the worst, it's definitely not the best BTS doc I've ever seen.
 
The last few evenings my four year old and I have been watching a slightly edited version. When he saw the Falcon for the first time his eyes lit up and he said, "They're sure going to get away on that fella." That's the joy of Star Wars to me. Those adventures seen through young unjaded eyes.
 
This is Star Wars. In 2 years there will be a 5-disc Mega-Bonus-Super-Collector's Special-Director's-Cut with 19 hours of never-before-seen behind-the-scenes footage. Everybody just chill.


Yeah, Lucas was always cranking out redundant copies of the movies with a few more features just to make a buck . . . except he wasn't. It's a myth. From 1997 (the creation of the SE's) to now, there have been no more editions of SW for sale than any other popular movie by any other studio.
 
Yeah, Lucas was always cranking out redundant copies of the movies with a few more features just to make a buck . . . except he wasn't. It's a myth. From 1997 (the creation of the SE's) to now, there have been no more editions of SW for sale than any other popular movie by any other studio.

But to be fair, that's kinda crappy as well.

Any movie released as much as Star Wars pretty much gets the eye rolling. At one time I had 4 copies of Army of Darkness at my place (didn't buy for myself, but didn't toss either because they had different material)

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The last few evenings my four year old and I have been watching a slightly edited version. When he saw the Falcon for the first time his eyes lit up and he said, "They're sure going to get away on that fella." That's the joy of Star Wars to me. Those adventures seen through young unjaded eyes.


Is that like my slightly edited "Temple of Doom" When I was a kid?

"Close your eyes while I fast forwards through this next scene..."
 
life got in the way today... wasn't able to swing by and pick up my copy. hoping for tomorrow...
 
Got to Costco tonight... only saw a small pile of DVD's. Got super irritated.

"You GOTTA be KIDDING ME!?!? They didn't PREPARE for the amount of people that would buy this?!!? Ohhhhh fiiiiine! I waited ONE DAY and now I can't-

*notices enormous stand full of Blu-rays*

*cough* *mumble* nevermindIfoundthem...."

*casually grabs one and walks away*
 
I'm currently on a cruise in the Caribbean. Last night they had a showing of TFA on the top deck. It was the third tine i saw it. Although it was great to sit out like that, my original review still stands. There are parts of it that i love, but overall, It was a messy fan film.

I think the one part of this that I find annoying is the reliance on subsequent source material to enhance your enjoyment of the film. As much as I love star wars, I do believe that the movies should stand on their own. We shouldn't need to read novels and comic books to help us flesh out the political situation.

I don't need everything spelled out to me in movies but this movie was pretty convoluted in it's storytelling.

When maz teases us with "THAT is a story for another time", that means that we need to come back to it in a film. It shouldn't be glossed over later and we shouldn't have to buy a comic to find out the story

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When maz teases us with "THAT is a story for another time", that means that we need to come back to it in a film. It shouldn't be glossed over later and we shouldn't have to buy a comic to find out the story

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To me, how the saber ended up there isn't an important detail. I don't even need another story to satisfy my curiosity.
 
Got to Costco tonight... only saw a small pile of DVD's. Got super irritated.

"You GOTTA be KIDDING ME!?!? They didn't PREPARE for the amount of people that would buy this?!!? Ohhhhh fiiiiine! I waited ONE DAY and now I can't-

*notices enormous stand full of Blu-rays*

*cough* *mumble* nevermindIfoundthem...."

*casually grabs one and walks away*

I am guilty of exactly this on so many occasions.

But I can't rage until the 21st as that's the date it is released here in DK.
 
I'm currently on a cruise in the Caribbean. Last night they had a showing of TFA on the top deck. It was the third tine i saw it. Although it was great to sit out like that, my original review still stands. There are parts of it that i love, but overall, It was a messy fan film.

I think the one part of this that I find annoying is the reliance on subsequent source material to enhance your enjoyment of the film. As much as I love star wars, I do believe that the movies should stand on their own. We shouldn't need to read novels and comic books to help us flesh out the political situation.

I don't need everything spelled out to me in movies but this movie was pretty convoluted in it's storytelling.

When maz teases us with "THAT is a story for another time", that means that we need to come back to it in a film. It shouldn't be glossed over later and we shouldn't have to buy a comic to find out the story

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I don't read any novels, comics, or supplemental material and I didn't feel like I was missing anything. I hope they never explain the lightsaber. I like the mystery and being able to use my imagination. I agree some things could have been fleshed out more but it personally doesn't bother me.
 
I do think it's important to consider what's relevant to the immediate narrative, and what's more just a tangent that ties into that narrative.

The Force Awakens is basically the story of the new leads: Ren and Finn specifically, with Poe to a lesser degree. It's their interaction with everyone else that drives the story forward.

So, while the story about how Luke's sabre ended up in Maz's possession is certainly interesting and connects to the overall story, it's not really the point. It's a distraction that slows down the story. Might be interesting to explore if we had more than 2.5 hrs to tell the story, but in a movie, you only have so much time.

It's kinda like this: the point in Game of Thrones isn't to examine how Stannis wound up at the Wall after his ships were destroyed in the battle of the Blackwater. Or at least, it's not worth showing the whole process of how he gets a new navy and his travel northwards to the Wall. It's enough -- in the books -- to know that he wound up there after reconstituting his fleet and his army. The rest isn't really relevant to the main story.

Interestingly (to me, anyway), I think we have come to crave this kind of information, as a society, due to the proliferation of "side story" media, but due even more to the "Golden Age" of prime time television. Television, as a longer-form narrative, has time to, say, do an episode that shows you how that sabre showed up there. And given how television production values have come to rival film production values, it's almost like really well-done TV shows end up being the equivalent of a multi-film franchise. As a result, we now are starting to expect more from films than it may be fair to expect from them.
 
Here is the story of the lightsaber:

A 47 year old on the Cloud City Janitorial Staff was cleaning out the central-vac system one day and was like, "Hey, this must be why the suction in hose 53 was so low" as he pulls out a gleaming metal tube packed with lint. "I've heard about these things", he exclaims as he sticks it in his pocket. He kept it for a number of years, displayed above his fireplace mantel. Then, one day he hit a bit of a rough patch. The Cloud City was becoming more and more automated and started laying off some of it's work-force. When his wife found out he was being laid off, she asked for a divorce. Facing the prospect of being jobless and having to go through a costly divorce he decided to sell the lighstaber he found, because it had absolutely no sentimental value and just looked like a cool conversation piece. He took the lightsaber to a pawnshop and got 400 galactic credits for it...

One day Maz Kanata was in a pawn shop and saw a lightsaber and was like "Oh man, I haven't seen one of these in a while. I should pick one up so I can pretend to be a jedi in my castle basement".

The end.
 
But to be fair, that's kinda crappy as well.

Any movie released as much as Star Wars pretty much gets the eye rolling. At one time I had 4 copies of Army of Darkness at my place (didn't buy for myself, but didn't toss either because they had different material)

I have four versions of Army of Darkness right now, three DVD versions and an old laserdisc. They put out different editions with different content, specifically to get you to buy the same movie over and over and over again.
 
Here is the story of the lightsaber:

A 47 year old on the Cloud City Janitorial Staff was cleaning out the central-vac system one day and was like, "Hey, this must be why the suction in hose 53 was so low" as he pulls out a gleaming metal tube packed with lint. "I've heard about these things", he exclaims as he sticks it in his pocket. He kept it for a number of years, displayed above his fireplace mantel. Then, one day he hit a bit of a rough patch. The Cloud City was becoming more and more automated and started laying off some of it's work-force. When his wife found out he was being laid off, she asked for a divorce. Facing the prospect of being jobless and having to go through a costly divorce he decided to sell the lighstaber he found, because it had absolutely no sentimental value and just looked like a cool conversation piece. He took the lightsaber to a pawnshop and got 400 galactic credits for it...

One day Maz Kanata was in a pawn shop and saw a lightsaber and was like "Oh man, I haven't seen one of these in a while. I should pick one up so I can pretend to be a jedi in my castle basement".

The end.

Ha. Although, an alternate line that wouldn't take up any more story time in TFA would have been:

Solo: "Where did you get that?"
Maz: "It's a long story, but not as exciting as you'd think."
 
I might catch some flak for this this, but...

I don't think everything in the SW universe has to be some grand adventure. I know a lot of avid fans of virtually every franchise fall into that sort of mindset, and SW fans are probably one of the guiltiest perpetrators. To me, when every little thing is some huge adventure, it detracts from the MAIN adventure. If everyone and everything encounters some grand heroism, what makes the central plot so special? What separates that from the rest of all of the adventures?

Some things just happen and it doesn't really matter why. I thought 3PO's red arm was a great example of that... until I found out they are making a comic about it. There are a lot of things that are better left mysteries in SW.
 
I might catch some flak for this this, but...

I don't think everything in the SW universe has to be some grand adventure. I know a lot of avid fans of virtually every franchise fall into that sort of mindset, and SW fans are probably one of the guiltiest perpetrators. To me, when every little thing is some huge adventure, it detracts from the MAIN adventure. If everyone and everything encounters some grand heroism, what makes the central plot so special? What separates that from the rest of all of the adventures?

Some things just happen and it doesn't really matter why. I thought 3PO's red arm was a great example of that... until I found out they are making a comic about it. There are a lot of things that are better left mysteries in SW.

Worse yet, they made very sure in the movie to point it out, like it wasn't ridiculously obvious already. Yes, we know it's red. No, I honestly don't care why. No, I'm not going to read the comic. I just don't care. I would have been happier though had they not made such a point of it, if it had just been in the movie and nobody had said a thing and if they mentioned it later, fine, if not, fine.
 
Worse yet, they made very sure in the movie to point it out, like it wasn't ridiculously obvious already. Yes, we know it's red. No, I honestly don't care why. No, I'm not going to read the comic. I just don't care. I would have been happier though had they not made such a point of it, if it had just been in the movie and nobody had said a thing and if they mentioned it later, fine, if not, fine.

Apparently you missed the point of that dialogue. The red arm was supposed to be just a bit of humor.

Also, J.J. was not aware that they were putting out a comic about the arm until after the scene was shot. The comic was a result of the scene, not the other way around and nobody attached to the film had anything to do with it.
 
Apparently you missed the point of that dialogue. The red arm was supposed to be just a bit of humor.

Also, J.J. was not aware that they were putting out a comic about the arm until after the scene was shot. The comic was a result of the scene, not the other way around and nobody attached to the film had anything to do with it.

Second that.

When Threepio gave his line, I chuckled... typical Abrams dialogue (As well as "you must be VERY brave...")...

The comic and everything coming from it is just typical marketing.

I'm dealing with a marketing team right now with the flick I'm editing on, and it's funny how it works... a group of people who had NOTHING to do with the flick for the first 3 years, jump in on the end and have all these ideas... and they're always head-scratchers.

So the Disney marketing team watching TFA and then deciding, "Let's make a comic about the red arm!" sound just about right...
 
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