Star Wars The Acolyte (tv series)

[Ron]

Want to know what a hypocritical ingrate looks like? This person aided a known sexual predator for years but now George Lucas is the misogynist??? I'd say I'm hoping for this show to bomb but no point in wasting hope for the inevitable.

Edit: I used some harsh language to describe Headland which I've since edited out. It angered me to hear what she said but still, I should've been more civil and certainly more Godly in my post. Apologies to anyone who found it distasteful. I try not to get worked up about stuff like this but sometimes I do and it's only because I care about it so much. Regardless of whatever I or anyone else thinks of Star Wars under Disney's tenure, I think we all agree we owe George Lucas a great deal of thanks for giving us so much joy over the years through his world. To see someone who has been given the privilege of adding her own story to that world be so ingrateful and so disrespectful to George is infuriating.

 

[CopperRevan]

Ron, You and i both know how dispicable this is. I thought Theory did a wonderful job communicating in this. "She has an ego the size of the Death Star". He couldn't have been more on point. I too, remember being blinded by a huge ego. But remember...we are the so-called hateful, negative, grumpy old men, get off my lawn crowd that has been brainwashed? Really? He echoed my sentiment perfectly too by stating he remembers talking about plot points and other "movie stuff" on forums but now we have to talk about this because we can't let this kind of thing go. Her dismissing George Lucas as the creator of Star Wars goes way deeper than most might think.

This mindset is not just confined to Star Wars...but unfortunately, has invaded society like a cancer. We all know why she is in the position she is in...it's no secret. The Puppeteer that controls the puppeteer puppets that are pulling the strings of more puppets all for one purpose. To use even entertainment outlets to decieve the hearts and minds of people in order to cause division on a grand scale. With this company especially, it's not about telling a story as much as it is to promote division amongst us and con us into paying for it. To stick with Star Wars anologies, she's been decieved and changed by the Emperor's lies and it's going to take some courageous Luke and Leia types led by the Force to try to convince her and others to come to the light in the form of speaking the truth and boycotts. Yes, that too is love.

The same ones that have a problem with voicing our displeasure on this matter probably didn't agree with Luke confonting Vader either...they would have rather he stayed home on the moisture farm and shut his mouth. What they don't realize is that if he had, Leia would still be in a holding cell on the Death Star a captive, the Emperor still in charge and Darth Vader unchanged. Tell me, is that a loving thing to do?...To stay silent while people destroy themselves and others?

My wife has malignant brain cancer...Apart from the grace of God, if someone didn't go in there with precision and skill and remove the malignant tumor i would be widowed and my children motherless. Thank God because now we have more time together. Even though the tumor is gone, the cancer cells remain . They re moved it in the nick of time too as it was so large she was having multiple full blown seizures. There is still a chance it can come back and it's the type that usually does and if it does it will come back very aggressively. I tell you this to make the anology. We cannot be passive about things, it's not the loving thing to do.

Note: In case anyone who reads this is wondering...Because of Grace, Love and Action, it's been almost 10yrs and nothing has returned. Thank You *****!
My heart is with anyone reading this if their circumstance turned out in a different way. It wasn't because we were more righteous than you or that God loved us more...He still loves you. He never changes and thankfully through the stillness and the storms of our life, He promises never to leave or forsake those who put their faith and trust in Him and who've been adopted as His children through the life, death and ressurrection of ***** ****** and He ever lives to keep trying to reach hearts that despise His love. He never gave up on me and i'm thankful He didn't remain stagnant or silent when it came to saving me, my wife and my whole household for all Eternity.

I sincerely hope one day this director realizes that she's biting the hand that feeds her...I certainly can say i've been guilty of that myself when it comes to God. Thankfully, He forgave me and changed my heart and mind by His grace alone. Unfortunately actions don't change until the heart and mind does too.

 

[Psab keel]

Hypocrites often can't see their own hypocrisy. I'll gladly cheer for this show's demise. Gladly.

 

[janglesworthy]

I'm not going to watch that video, anyone got a quick quote of what she said?

 

[Psab keel]

According to this genius, George Lucas is a misogynist, even though she was Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant for a year. So, yeah. That should tell you everything you need to know.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Hypocrites often can't see their own hypocrisy. I'll gladly cheer for this show's demise. Gladly.

Completely agree on the hypocrisy, but I'm still hoping this show has more meat than bones.

 

[janglesworthy]

ah she's that person. Good luck I guess....

 

[Psab keel]

Completely agree on the hypocrisy, but I'm still hoping this show has more meat than bones.

She's openly stated that she's using Star Wars as a platform to discuss current events, so I sincerely doubt it. Sci-fi and fantasy can be a great way to discuss controversial topics, but those types of stories are much different in tone than what Star Wars is at its heart. In fact, Star Wars as a series was in large part a response to the cynical view of the world at the time of it's initial release. That's why so much of the content since 2015 has had a mixed reception at best.

 

[tgtiw]

I left Miramax in 2003, her name doesn't ring a bell, but Harvey had multiple assistants at any given time so she's definitely cashing in on his name.

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

She's openly stated that she's using Star Wars as a platform to discuss current events, so I sincerely doubt it. Sci-fi and fantasy can be a great way to discuss controversial topics, but those types of stories are much different in tone than what Star Wars is at its heart. In fact, Star Wars as a series was in large part a response to the cynical view of the world at the time of it's initial release. That's why so much of the content since 2015 has had a mixed reception at best.

It's horribly obnoxious when people use platforms/forums that are designed for entertainment/sci-fi/fantasy to their advantage to push their personal social, religious, political beliefs or agendas...Bold of her.

I think you're right about the mixed response to post 2015 content being largely due to a different world view.

 

[Psab keel]

‘Russian Doll’ Co-Creator: Why the Auteur Myth Is Misogynistic (Guest Column)

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[VanPersie]

It's horribly obnoxious when people use platforms/forums that are designed for entertainment/sci-fi/fantasy to their advantage to push their religious beliefs....

Good job nobody on this thread did this one....

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Want to know what a hypocritical ingrate looks like? This person aided a known sexual predator for years but now George Lucas is the misogynist??? I'd say I'm hoping for this show to bomb but no point in wasting hope for the inevitable.

Edit: I used some harsh language to describe Headland which I've since edited out. It angered me to hear what she said but still, I should've been more civil and certainly more Godly in my post. Apologies to anyone who found it distasteful. I try not to get worked up about stuff like this but sometimes I do and it's only because I care about it so much. Regardless of whatever I or anyone else thinks of Star Wars under Disney's tenure, I think we all agree we owe George Lucas a great deal of thanks for giving us so much joy over the years through his world. To see someone who has been given the privilege of adding her own story to that world be so ingrateful and so disrespectful to George is infuriating.

Why, she has the insight of someone who clearly knows the audience that they are trying to reach with this series.

She is also launching this project in that uniquely special way that only modern Lucasfilm can; a way that inspires the fans to get behind the project with enthusiasm…

I wish her great success with this new series.

 

[Joek3rr]

It's horribly obnoxious when people use platforms/forums that are designed for entertainment/sci-fi/fantasy to their advantage to push their personal social, religious, political beliefs or agendas...Bold of her.

I think you're right about the mixed response to post 2015 content being largely due to a different world view.

Good job nobody on this thread did this one....

That's thing. I think everyone is going to insert their political and/or religious worldviews in what they do. Whether that is subconsciously (like Tolkien's works) or consciously (like Lewis and Narnia). It just happens when someone is very conscious and overt about it tends to rub us the wrong way. It comes across as preachy.

 

[3Dsf]

It's horribly obnoxious when people use platforms/forums that are designed for entertainment/sci-fi/fantasy to their advantage to push their personal social, religious, political beliefs or agendas...

You mean the way Lucas did in the first six films? The way Trek pushed its beliefs?

Every form of entertainment is deeply embedded within a social, political world view, and expresses it more or less clearly.

If you don't notice it it simply means that you happen to agree with the views being pushed by that particular thing, and assume it's The Way Things Are rather than an opinion or world view. If you do notice it, and find it obnoxious, it simply means it's something you personally don't agree with.

 

[Psab keel]

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I remember when Lucas still owned the company and posted photos like these to raise the ire of his audience for disliking the Prequels. Oh how special were the days when he labeled them racists, homophobes and actively trolled them. Oh wait... he never did this crap but Disney does it on the reg and they've got the media in their pocket to pile on. For a company that prides itself on inclusiveness, they sure know how to make long time fans feel unwelcome.

If people honestly can't see the difference in leadership between Lucas vs Disney, here's photographic proof. They do not care about you and certainly don't respect you. I feel no remorse whatsoever in calling them out and I don't feel bad that their brand is suffering for their terrible decisions.

 

[Psab keel]

You mean the way Lucas did in the first six films? The way Trek pushed its beliefs?

Every form of entertainment is deeply embedded within a social, political world view, and expresses it more or less clearly.

If you don't notice it it simply means that you happen to agree with the views being pushed by that particular thing, and assume it's The Way Things Are rather than an opinion or world view. If you do notice it, and find it obnoxious, it simply means it's something you personally don't agree with.

It's typically more noticeable when you disagree with the ideas being pushed, but I found that even films that push a perspective I do agree with can be equally obnoxious or the way they're presented can get in the way of telling an engaging story. I wouldn't say they were mutually exclusive.

Ultimately if the message ( regardless of what it is) overshadows the story then it's no longer art, it's propaganda.

 

[Ron]

Trek certainly delved into social commentary but it never came off (at least to me) as being preachy or agenda-filled but rather impartially thought provoking as good sci-fi can do and because of that, it maintains a timeless relevancy.

With Star Wars, again I've never gotten a sense of an overt political or social view other than the broad symbol-isms of tyrany, liberty, faith, heroism, etc. The one metaphor I have heard is in ROTJ, being close to the Vietnam era, the Empire is meant to symbolize America while the Ewoks are meant to symbolize the Viet Cong. I highly doubt George was suggesting a moral equivalency there. I could see where he was drawing a paralell with the Ewoks using their environment to fight a technologically advanced military but that's it. The prequels had some commentary on authoritarianism but again, it seems to me to have been in the broadest sense.

 

[CopperRevan]

Trek certainly delved into social commentary but it never came off (at least to me) as being preachy or agenda-filled but rather impartially thought provoking as good sci-fi can do and because of that, it maintains a timeless relevancy.

With Star Wars, again I've never gotten a sense of an overt political or social view other than the broad symbol-isms of tyrany, liberty, faith, heroism, etc. The one metaphor I have heard is in ROTJ, being close to the Vietnam era, the Empire is meant to symbolize America while the Ewoks are meant to symbolize the Viet Cong. I highly doubt George was suggesting a moral equivalency there. I could see where he was drawing a paralell with the Ewoks using their environment to fight a technologically advanced military but that's it. The prequels had some commentary on authoritarianism but again, it seems to me to have been in the broadest sense.

Star Wars OT were the perfect movies at the perfect time with a unifying message and it was crystal clear. That is why it was as popular as it was and is still today...totally timeless!!! I never once sensed a hint of agenda, of course i was young. Even watching it today i still don't sense any...it remains as youthful in my heart as it was back then. I personally like Star Trek Deep Space Nine for the fact that i loved the pilot introducing us to a strong, bold leader in Benjamin Sisko, who had already dealt with tragedy and had to raise his son as a military commander at his post. It really resonated with me. Since i was older i began to sense some political themes integrated within it for a few eye rolls but not enough to detract me from the main story and very memorable characters.

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

You mean the way Lucas did in the first six films? The way Trek pushed its beliefs?

Every form of entertainment is deeply embedded within a social, political world view, and expresses it more or less clearly.

If you don't notice it it simply means that you happen to agree with the views being pushed by that particular thing, and assume it's The Way Things Are rather than an opinion or world view. If you do notice it, and find it obnoxious, it simply means it's something you personally don't agree with.

No I mean the direct overt way where where zero reading between the lines is necessary. Which happens and often goes unchecked.