Star Wars Snowspeeder question...

[Treadwell]

What kills me about that last scene on Hoth...

Yup, that was Wedge, and Denis Lawson went to Norway to be seen walking across the snow for about 3 seconds! :lol

By the time he's talking, though, we're on Luke climbing into the X-Wing, which was shot against sky behind Elstree. :lol I guess they did bring an X-Wing nose, though, as seen in the previous shot.

Notice Luke holding his arm as if it's hurt when he's walking? Another bit that escaped continuity before and after.

Good thing the Empire didn't send any bombers down. "Hey, lookie at the X-Wing staging area!" BOOOM

As for the transports: there is talk of getting Leia to the "last" transport. Han drags her out of the command center and she tells the staff to "get to your transports". WHAT transports?!

 

[Treadwell]

If you're looking for EU usage, in the Marvel comic, they could be seen (alongside earlier "snow"speeder designs) in the base the Rebels used in an issue or three just prior to ESB. It was on a forest planet. When it came to ESB, Marvel dovetailed into the movie plot and designs nicely.

After a quick glance via Google, it seems the issues I was thinking of took place after ESB. But still...snowspeeders without snow.

 

[binkleywalker]

And Luke and Han can survive in the cold, but the Tauntaun, an animal from the ice planet doesn't make it? What?

I know, the Tauntaun would usually be in a cave before night fall which brings the really cold weather and the rebels had amazing technology in their coats that kept them super warm. Goretex or something.

I get it.

Brian

 

[Larry Young]

The tauntaun died of exhaustion, not exposure.

 

[Solo4114]

If any did survive aside from Wedge's, I would assume they left all of them behind in order to high-tail it off Hoth.

When Luke is talking to the 2-1B medical droid, the droid says it'll take a while to evacuate the T-47s (the snowspeeders). Luke -- again, nonchalantly -- says "Well, forget the heavy equipment. There's plenty of time to get the smaller modules on board." (yes, I looked up the scene)

So, I guess either they figured they could replace them, or they simply recognized that they weren't gonna be able to salvage everything.

As for the overall "Well, that was fun. Off we go!" attitude at the evacuation, I've always looked at Hoth as the Rebellion's "Battle of France" and the evacuation itself as akin to the Dunkirk evacuation. Basically loading up everything they can, and then bugging out while they could. I guess you could argue that maybe they're far enough behind enemy lines, although that sort of calls into question the layout of everything at the base.

 

[Jack T Chance]

Used for space travel? YOU COULD SEE THROUGH THE SIDES! :lol

Those Rebels DO love their Transparisteel™ plating, don't they? :lol

 

[Laspector]

The tauntaun died of exhaustion, not exposure.

I agree with this statement (even though that one guy did say "your Tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker"). If Tauntauns are native to hoth (are they?) I would figure they could take the cold pretty well. I just always assumed that Han literally ran his tauntaun to death. The same thing applies to horses. If spurred on a horse will actually run until his lungs explode. Like what Rooster Cogburn did to Little Blackie in True Grit.

As for the speeders I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the speeders were only capable of flying only 50 feet or so off the ground. You never see one flying more than a little higher than the walkers...Hence called 'speeders' and not 'ships'..But that could be a false memory, I cannot confirm that.

 

[binkleywalker]

Now I'm torn. I didn't even consider the exhaustion thing- good point, but the guy did say he would freeze before the first marker- so they both make sense.

Maybe the spirit of Kenobi killed it when it ran through it. The fallen Jedi provided travel advice and a warm carcass.

Brian

 

[SSgt Burton]

Why is there any question about the tauntaun freezing to death when all the exposition is about how cold Hoth gets at night?

"Sir the temperature is dropping too rapidly." "Your tauntaun will freeze..."

Wasn't this also the reason for closing the shield doors? The base would become too cold if left open?



Kevin

 

[jlee562]

And Luke and Han can survive in the cold, but the Tauntaun, an animal from the ice planet doesn't make it? What?

I know, the Tauntaun would usually be in a cave before night fall which brings the really cold weather and the rebels had amazing technology in their coats that kept them super warm. Goretex or something.

I get it.

Brian

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Han utter a line about building a shelter? "Sorry about the smell kid, but this will keep you warm until I get the shelter built."

No?

 

[Larry Young]

Because Han and Luke don't.

 

[Purple Dagger]

If the plan with the speeders was blasters vs. AT-AT, wouldn't an X-wing with missles or torpedos work better? X-wings don't have ion cannons but they do have something heavier then speeder blasters no? And didn't luke say something about harpoons?

As for the tauntaun. Han ran him to hard AND the cold. They have the mount breathing heavy and mowning before it collapses to the ground...both play a factor I'd say.

 

[binkleywalker]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Han utter a line about building a shelter? "Sorry about the smell kid, but this will keep you warm until I get the shelter built."

No?

Yeah, you even see him start to build it. It's just weird that an animal that lives on the planet doesn't survive but the 2 humans do.

It would be like if Jar Jar got caught in a sandstorm on Tattoine and lived but a Bantha died.

Brian

 

[Larry Young]

Have you ever seen a Western where the hero rides hard to save his friend and the horse lives? :lol

 

[binkleywalker]

Maybe it was just sleeping really heavy and Han actually killed it with the lightsaber. Didn't have enough time to really study the creature and its' night time habits and it paid the price.

 

[Ford W Maverick]

Could be that cold will only kill them if they're exhausted maybe?

 

[wannab]

WTF are you going to tow with that cable anyway?

Maybe they're for some sort of rebel redneck rodeo Wampa ropin' contest? YeeeHaww!


Doug

 

[matrox75]

Maybe it was just sleeping really heavy and Han actually killed it with the lightsaber. Didn't have enough time to really study the creature and its' night time habits and it paid the price.

:lol I fell off my chair laughing

 

[Solo4114]

Maybe it was just sleeping really heavy and Han actually killed it with the lightsaber. Didn't have enough time to really study the creature and its' night time habits and it paid the price.

" 'E's not dead, 'e's resting! The Norwegian blue tauntaun prefers kippin' on 'is back." And, since they filmed in Norway, he probably WAS pining for the fjords.

If the plan with the speeders was blasters vs. AT-AT, wouldn't an X-wing with missles or torpedos work better? X-wings don't have ion cannons but they do have something heavier then speeder blasters no? And didn't luke say something about harpoons?

The harpoons were the magnetic things that allowed them to stick the tow cables to the walkers' legs. Luke says their armor's too strong for blasters, so you'll have to use harpoons and tow cables.

As for the tauntaun. Han ran him to hard AND the cold. They have the mount breathing heavy and mowning before it collapses to the ground...both play a factor I'd say.

Any of you guys ever go for a run in the cold? Breathing heavily in the cold really feels like it's ripping the hell out of your throat and chest. If Han pushed the tauntaun too hard, maybe it died of fluid in the lungs or something. It did seem to gurgle a lot.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Han utter a line about building a shelter? "Sorry about the smell kid, but this will keep you warm until I get the shelter built."

No?

Yeah, he did. You see it the next morning when Zev finds them. The speeders fly by, Han waves to them, and he's standing near a tent-like structure.

Why is there any question about the tauntaun freezing to death when all the exposition is about how cold Hoth gets at night?

"Sir the temperature is dropping too rapidly." "Your tauntaun will freeze..."

Wasn't this also the reason for closing the shield doors? The base would become too cold if left open?



Kevin

No, they closed the shield doors because Gen. Riekan yelled at them and said "SHUT THE DOOR! We aren't trying to heat the whole neighborhood!"

 

[Treadwell]

When Luke is talking to the 2-1B medical droid, the droid says it'll take a while to evacuate the T-47s (the snowspeeders). Luke -- again, nonchalantly -- says "Well, forget the heavy equipment. There's plenty of time to get the smaller modules on board."

I believe the T-47s and the snowpeeders being one and the same was not the original intent, but the result of someone in the EU (perhaps Decipher or West End Games) misinterpreting the scene and sticking the name on a snowspeeder diagram or something...and it stuck. Why would Onebee have any interest or knowledge of the "motorpool" (so to speak)? His realm of responsibility is medical equipment, and that's what I think he was talking about. Plus, why would someone call a speeder "equipment", or infer that they are "modules"?