Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

[janglesworthy]

I agree that another Vader Obi Wan fight is likely but I doubt Vader will go back to Tatooine again though. His mother died there which he blames himself for and going there would open that wound (but then again Vader is clearly a total masochist as he chose Mustafar to build his Castle on). I'm sure some part of him also blames the Lars family for his mother's death. If he was on Tatooine I would imagine that he would want to kill them which would be slightly problematic for continuity.

well he did end up back at tat chasing leia, and in a way he did kill the lars. Just used his troopers to do it. You can only imagine what was going through his mind if the troopers had reported back to him they had tracked the droid to a Lars homestead.

My guess it deals with obi learning how to become a blue glowy and vader with at least 1 conversation with qui. A wild question would be will they bring darth maul back into it and retcon his death?

 

[Halliwax]

I hope they don’t retcon his death.. and seeing how filoni was in charge of that I can’t see him changing his mind

I was pretty upset at the comic when it showed vader on tatoonie..

I always believed like others have thought that because of what his mother went through and all those years as a slave he would never step foot back on the planet.. and maybe that was another reason why Obiwan chose to stay there..

He knew vader would never walk that planet

Then when the comic came out I was like “whhhhhhhhaaaaat”

 

[janglesworthy]

Maybe Bail get's into some trouble and obi has to go BAIL him out of it. ZING!

 

[Halliwax]

They are now reporting those are cassian andor set, not kenobi

 

[janglesworthy]

with all the live action shows in production it makes sense that they would most likely share sets between them all. Adopting more of a game of thrones style production for certain locations like tat.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I would find it problematic to have Obi-Wan go into hiding to protect the knowledge of Luke's existence from Vader and the Emperor, only to go on covert missions off world. It could very well undermine the nobility of Obi-Wan as a character because he swore an oath to protect the child of his greatest failure. Luke is literally the personification of Obi's redemption.

For me if they even have Obi-Wan leave once, the show has failed. Lucas intended Obi-Wan's mission to be to sit there and protect, then teach Luke. That's it. That's Obi-Wan's life. If they have him leave it would cheapen his character the same way the Sequels did to Luke taking down the Emperor. When Obi-Wan agrees to help in ANH and he cuts off walrusman's arm, that should be the first time he overtly used his lightsaber since Order 66. That should be his "I'm done hiding" moment. I'm not saying he can't do anything, but he has to do it covertly and on Tatooine.

 

[Toadmeister]

You can only imagine what was going through his mind if the troopers had reported back to him they had tracked the droid to a Lars homestead.

I never thought of the events this way. Interesting.

My guess it deals with obi learning how to become a blue glowy and vader with at least 1 conversation with qui. A wild question would be will they bring darth maul back into it and retcon his death?

If they re-created the Obi vs Maul duel in live action from Rebels....could be EPIC.

 

[janglesworthy]

if the fight was exactly the same as the cartoon, would people be pissed though...

 

[harrisonp]

if the fight was exactly the same as the cartoon, would people be pissed though...

I’m trying to remember if they ever cut away to Ezra while that fight is going on, tht would give them room to add to it during a retelling.

 

[Halliwax]

For me if they even have Obi-Wan leave once, the show has failed. Lucas intended Obi-Wan's mission to be to sit there and protect, then teach Luke. That's it. That's Obi-Wan's life. If they have him leave it would cheapen his character the same way the Sequels did to Luke taking down the Emperor. When Obi-Wan agrees to help in ANH and he cuts off walrusman's arm, that should be the first time he overtly used his lightsaber since Order 66. That should be his "I'm done hiding" moment. I'm not saying he can't do anything, but he has to do it covertly and on Tatooine.

Can’t agree with you more

 

[Toadmeister]

if the fight was exactly the same as the cartoon, would people be pissed though...

Same events but with different camera angles, lighting, editing, pacing. The cartoon is just one interpretation of the events. This is where a good director could really shine.

 

[HeartBlade]

Can’t agree with you more

kind of a worst-case scenario but what if they have Obi Wan appear on other planets and fighting but reveal that it is Obi Wan force projecting from Tatooine, thereby making force projection canon and Obi Wan (or his journals) being what taught Luke how to force project in TLJ?

 

[harrisonp]

kind of a worst-case scenario but what if they have Obi Wan appear on other planets and fighting but reveal that it is Obi Wan force projecting from Tatooine, thereby making force projection canon and Obi Wan (or his journals) being what taught Luke how to force project in TLJ?

Why does it have to be Obi-Wans journals that teach Luke, he had a decade and then some of active Jedi exploration and training. Not everything has to be retconned to “fix” the sequels.

Ben Force projecting to get around being stuck on Tatooine is more egregious to me than Luke being able to do it without earlier explanation.

 

[Psab keel]

if the fight was exactly the same as the cartoon, would people be pissed though...

Same events but with different camera angles, lighting, editing, pacing. The cartoon is just one interpretation of the events. This is where a good director could really shine.

And this is where CW fans would get pissed because now that canon will be ret-conned. And the OT canon will be further changed to tell this story. Mark my words.

This is just one minor example of how telling stories with known characters creates continuity problems. It also doesn't help when a story relies on "filling in the blanks" by slotting in between a series of films because if they are at all concerned about consistency then they are very limited in the story they can tell. Now if the writers are talented enough they can make it work but sadly most of these writers aren't capable of it. The quality of the writing has long been the issue and it's pretty much been the only issue when it comes to Star Wars.

This is why I'm constantly questioning why they can't tell new stories with new characters instead of having to tell and retell the same ones. It's like that friend of yours who always tells you the same story but always embellishes it to make it more compelling but only diminishes the impact of the first time they told it to you.

Come up with some new material buddy. I thought you were this great story teller...

 

[Toadmeister]

kind of a worst-case scenario but what if they have Obi Wan appear on other planets and fighting but reveal that it is Obi Wan force projecting from Tatooine, thereby making force projection canon and Obi Wan (or his journals) being what taught Luke how to force project in TLJ?

Oh boy....

 

[Toadmeister]

And this is where CW fans would get pissed because now that canon will be ret-conned. And the OT canon will be further changed to tell this story. Mark my words.

This is just one minor example of how telling stories with known characters creates continuity problems. It also doesn't help when a story relies on "filling in the blanks" by slotting in between a series of films because if they are at all concerned about consistency then they are very limited in the story they can tell. Now if the writers are talented enough they can make it work but sadly most of these writers aren't capable of it. The quality of the writing has long been the issue and it's pretty much been the only issue when it comes to Star Wars.

This is why I'm constant questioning why they can't tell new stories with new characters instead of having to tell and retell the same ones. It's like that friend of yours who always tells you the same story but always embellishes it to make it more compelling but only diminishes the impact of the first time they told it to you.

Come up with some new material buddy. I thought you were this great story teller...

Totally see your point, and if Kathleen Kennedy were running things at Lucasfilm I would be in agreement.

I have some more faith in Favrau and Filoni however. I go with “glass half full” with them.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

I’m trying to remember if they ever cut away to Ezra while that fight is going on, tht would give them room to add to it during a retelling.

Obi Wan had sent Ezra away before the fight started. Basically told him it wasn't his fight, cause Ezra wanted to help him defeat Maul.

 

[Toadmeister]

Obi Wan had sent Ezra away before the fight started. Basically told him it wasn't his fight, cause Ezra wanted to help him defeat Maul.

They could even cut Ezra completely out, he’s not needed. It can be a flashback and stick just to the one scene.

 

[harrisonp]

They could even cut Ezra completely out, he’s not needed. It can be a flashback and stick just to the one scene.

That’s kind of my point, if there were moments during Rebels where they cut away and we saw Ezra it would give them more run time for a fight where they don’t cut away but still loosely match the original

 

[HeartBlade]

Why does it have to be Obi-Wans journals that teach Luke, he had a decade and then some of active Jedi exploration and training. Not everything has to be retconned to “fix” the sequels.

Ben Force projecting to get around being stuck on Tatooine is more egregious to me than Luke being able to do it without earlier explanation.

just to emphasize, I don’t want it to happen but I COULD see Disney go this route or something similar to add in materials in post to “canonize” the sequel trilogy. I do think a lot of fans took issue with force projection being something Jedi can suddenly do with the force so adding it in to “OT” with Obi Wan makes it a legitimate power that the Jedi always had, in Disney’s eyes at least.

I agree that as much as I like Obi Wan as a character, we don’t need his adventure story on his time in Tatooine and it will very likely cause issues in canon in doing so. Obi Wan is on Tatooine for 2 reasons: 1) watch over Luke, 2) hide from Vader.

Obi Wan leaving Tatooine would be breaking both of these goals and doesn’t seem like something Obi Wan would do. There are a lot of threats in Tatooine (hutts, raiders, etc) but Obi Wan would probably want to keep a low profile for obvious reasons.