Regardless of how we perceived the first two films, the entire franchise has been very much influenced by GL's appeal to kids. I agree his having children was likely a major contributor towards that. But back OT, this show is a kids a show and there is nothing off the wall or out of left field about it despite some of the characterizations in this thread. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Star Wars: Detours trailer
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On that we can agree! :thumbsup
Nothing wrong with there being a show like this, I just have an opinion. Personally, it's not the show that I'm overly annoyed with. It's just that Star Wars, even now, doesn't seem all that interested in taking risks. Say what you want about how awesome the Clone Wars is, but the show is still bound by what happens in Episode III, which is the movie that made me cut of being a fan of Star Wars in the first place. There's no "New Direction" in Star Wars anymore, and it's really becoming stale. If they want to keep it this way? Fine. If they want to kill it? Fine. Just don't tell me that no one out there wants to see something happen to Star Wars that doesn't outright live off of the previous installments.
Oh, one other thing. I've seen Star Wars Detours already.... 10 freaking years ago. And it looked a heck of a lot better.
Mola Rob
Sr Member
Well said.
OK Jeyl, but just because we would welcome additional more adult content they are running a business and feel this is the direction they want to take. And I would suggest that both the Clone Wars and some of the video game offerings, including the new 1313 game, they are trying to cater to a teen/young adult audience. This has been with mixed success but at least LucasFilm continues to try an innovate and keep the franchise relevant. On that score I would suggest they have succeeded as we are having this conversation.
Speaking of innovation and keeping the franchise relevant,
Final 'Star Wars' prequels get back-to-back 3D releases
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Yeah, but here's the problem. I am a legacy SW fan and I can't wait to see these in 3D. I don't go see movies in theaters often but I will always go watch SW on the big screen and I am a fan of modern 3D. So what you find a snoozer I am looking forward to it. And I am looking forward to Detours, it looks like fun and the clips made me smile.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
These threads always amuse the hell out of me. On the one hand, you have people who understand that Star Wars was set up for kids (Fine, call it a "family movie", but it is still the same.). On the other, you have those who expect Lucas to have changed who he is and how he writes because they have grown up. Lucas wrote these as an adult with some of the silliest dialog EVER. Sure, they were whittled down and changed over the course of development, but he is still the same guy now that he was 30+ years ago.
Oh, for the record, I'll be seeing the Prequels in 3D on the big screen. Nothing else like Star Wars on the big screen.
Oh, for the record, I'll be seeing the Prequels in 3D on the big screen. Nothing else like Star Wars on the big screen.
I hear going through a divorce and choosing to raise three kids can change a guy.
So will I. I won't rob my kids the chance to see these in theatres no matter what I think of them. I'm genuinely looking forward to Jurassic Park in 3D as well! That will be awesome...
To get back on topic, I do not know who the intended audience for this show is, but it isn't me. The animation style is aimed at early elementary school kids, but some of the jokes were aimed at junior high kids. It seems like the writers and animators were working on different shows.
I think part of what people are having a hard time wrapping their head around is the Robot Chicken guys doing a show targeting kids. I'm missing out on Titan Maximum for this?
I think part of what people are having a hard time wrapping their head around is the Robot Chicken guys doing a show targeting kids. I'm missing out on Titan Maximum for this?
Lucas has changed over the years. I think to argue that he is the same filmmaker he was when he started is false. When he started he was a wunderkind who was able to buck the system and win. But his success was also his downfall as an artist. By earning his freedom from the Hollywood system, he no longer works with people who are willing to question him, and consequently his creative work suffers. Film and television are collaborative efforts. Something Lucas seems to think of as compromise of his imaginative freedoms, when in fact it's the collaboration of the team to bring one vision into reality, that can really boost the strength of a story.
Lucas is running companies now. He has salaries to pay, and employees who are depending on him for a living. I can respect that, and I think it's great that he is as successful as he is. I understand and respect that Star Wars was created as a wholesome adventure series that a family could enjoy. But there is no reason why entertainment can't also teach a lesson, or have some sort of value or lasting humor. One of the very reasons that Star Wars was such a major hit was the fact that it was entertainment with a message. May the Force be with You meant believe in yourself and go for your dreams with everything you've got.
So little of entertainment now has anything equivalent to that. It's just selling something. Add to the fact that George is constantly changing his mind. Endlessly tinkering and making improvements, all the while telling his fans that the films are better. He may have the right to do these things, but don't tell me that you aren't a little insulted when he tells people in interviews that his changes make logical sense, or that they better the story. They don't. When asked by reporters why he is no longer going to make any more Star Wars films, he claimed that everyone hated his new films, so why would he bother making more of them? And yet all he has been doing is rereleasing version after version of them. Creating spin off after spin off television shows. Don't you find that a bit ironic?
Since 2005 when ROTS was released he's said he's going back to make personal art films that no one will want to see. He's done with Star Wars. But that's not true at all. He can't let it go. I would LOVE to see what kind of avant garde films he could make with his resources. But he'll likely never make them.
The anger and frustration with Star Wars is that Lucas is constantly telling people what they want, instead of trusting that his audience can make up their own minds. I don't like it when people I don't know insult my intelligence or talk down to me, and then tell me I'm whining when I don't understand something that makes no logical sense. If a filmmaker or author trusts his audience then they don't have to dumb down their work.
Lucas is running companies now. He has salaries to pay, and employees who are depending on him for a living. I can respect that, and I think it's great that he is as successful as he is. I understand and respect that Star Wars was created as a wholesome adventure series that a family could enjoy. But there is no reason why entertainment can't also teach a lesson, or have some sort of value or lasting humor. One of the very reasons that Star Wars was such a major hit was the fact that it was entertainment with a message. May the Force be with You meant believe in yourself and go for your dreams with everything you've got.
So little of entertainment now has anything equivalent to that. It's just selling something. Add to the fact that George is constantly changing his mind. Endlessly tinkering and making improvements, all the while telling his fans that the films are better. He may have the right to do these things, but don't tell me that you aren't a little insulted when he tells people in interviews that his changes make logical sense, or that they better the story. They don't. When asked by reporters why he is no longer going to make any more Star Wars films, he claimed that everyone hated his new films, so why would he bother making more of them? And yet all he has been doing is rereleasing version after version of them. Creating spin off after spin off television shows. Don't you find that a bit ironic?
Since 2005 when ROTS was released he's said he's going back to make personal art films that no one will want to see. He's done with Star Wars. But that's not true at all. He can't let it go. I would LOVE to see what kind of avant garde films he could make with his resources. But he'll likely never make them.
The anger and frustration with Star Wars is that Lucas is constantly telling people what they want, instead of trusting that his audience can make up their own minds. I don't like it when people I don't know insult my intelligence or talk down to me, and then tell me I'm whining when I don't understand something that makes no logical sense. If a filmmaker or author trusts his audience then they don't have to dumb down their work.
sdmicp
Active Member
I really enjoy reading all the different points of views expressed about this cartoon. If you are interested, watch the documentary on Netflix called "The people Vs. George Lucas". It will answer a few questions regarding his thought process. The fans have been making these same arguments for a long time now. This is nothing new.
What I thought was interesting, was he said himself that he made Star Wars for the kids. Which is what we were when we first saw the OT. And I still have the OT. I have it on VHS, DVD and Blueray. I can watch it whenever I want. I love the SW universe so much I got my kids into it. They have buckets of loose characters, vehicles and you name the ship. Its cool seeing my daughters battle it out with FX Lightsabers that are way better then what I had. All my vintage stuff is well cared for and is "display only" obviously :lol
I showed this cartoon to my 6 y.o. daughter on the old Ipad and she absolutely loved it. I thought it was good the first time but became bored after the third time through. She cant stop watching it and then she pulls out the SW toys. I think George Lucas knew what he was doing. I will probably have to show her all six trailers again in the morning before school.:facepalm
Like I said before, Its a show for the kids. And just maybe some of us 40 y.o. fanboys might get a kick out of it too. With that said, I would love to see an episode/sequel that would be on par with the OT. I just dont think its gonna happen. I think he was too beat down after the Prequel. So I'll just have fun watching my kids have fun with my old toys that made me happy. :thumbsup
Larry :cool
What I thought was interesting, was he said himself that he made Star Wars for the kids. Which is what we were when we first saw the OT. And I still have the OT. I have it on VHS, DVD and Blueray. I can watch it whenever I want. I love the SW universe so much I got my kids into it. They have buckets of loose characters, vehicles and you name the ship. Its cool seeing my daughters battle it out with FX Lightsabers that are way better then what I had. All my vintage stuff is well cared for and is "display only" obviously :lol
I showed this cartoon to my 6 y.o. daughter on the old Ipad and she absolutely loved it. I thought it was good the first time but became bored after the third time through. She cant stop watching it and then she pulls out the SW toys. I think George Lucas knew what he was doing. I will probably have to show her all six trailers again in the morning before school.:facepalm
Like I said before, Its a show for the kids. And just maybe some of us 40 y.o. fanboys might get a kick out of it too. With that said, I would love to see an episode/sequel that would be on par with the OT. I just dont think its gonna happen. I think he was too beat down after the Prequel. So I'll just have fun watching my kids have fun with my old toys that made me happy. :thumbsup
Larry :cool
MooMooEgg
Sr Member
You know, when thinking about this, I realized the only non-SW related projects he's been involved in (as a writer/producer) were the Indiana Jones movies, Willow, and Red Tails. :facepalm
I probably take the whole thing too seriously. But it's hard not to when you've fallen in love with something. Plus as an amateur writer, I just get infinitely frustrated at the possibility that if he'd only relent some control he could make some seriously amazing stories come to life.
Zombie_61
Master Member
You forgot American Graffiti.
MooMooEgg
Sr Member
Sorry, I meant after Star Wars.
Hawk TK9401
New Member
So is this a show that is coming out or what?
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