Star Wars Andor (Disney+ TV series)

[Mara Jade's Father]

They also may the prequels which was the story of a guy we knew was good, went bad, and dies in ROTJ.....wait, maybe that's a bad example...

I had thought of that too but I was afraid of bringing up the prequels with this bunch.

 

[Jamesfett]

Spoiler alert. The main character is already dead and we know how. Takes some tension out.

So you are not watching Obi Wan Kenobi? You know he dies later in another movie too, right? So okay, we know Andor will not die but there will probably be other characters who could like that you will be concerned with and even mission and goal objectives that you will wonder if they will fail or succeed. I don't think knowing the fate of one character strips the drama.

Why did Boba Fett get 6 crappy episodes.

Obi gets 6 or 8. Can't remember, but
a series no one asked for gets 12 plus another 12 next season.

Ok, there is another on of my points as you seems like you might be having a issue more with the other series than this one. You can check but I think what most interviews say is that the simply base the episodes on the story runners objective to tell the story they want to tell.

Additionally, did you actually poll the fan base and find out that "no one" asked for it? I may not have asked for Andor but I did ask for a series that further explored the rebellion prior the events of R1 and A New Hope. More so than what Rebels did.

Also, I think if we were to take your question, we might also say in the same way... Who asked for Star Wars? Just because people do not ask for something, does not mean it does not have value.

Where the Fudge is my beloved U wing??????????????

Once again this sound like a judgement because people don't get what they want rather than what the series has to offer. This was a teaser trailer. So we do not know what craft will show up or when, Are you going to really throw a strike against a whole series if a U-Wing does not appear in this series?

No K2SO in the first season. The best character in Rogue one and one of the best post OT.

See above comment.

Why does my beloved Star Wars hate me so????????????????

Kind of seems like it is the other way around. But that's just my opinion




I agree with you MJF.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

With the exception of Kyle, the rest came from the books, no? Before the books were released - any of them - LFL put out a statement saying they were allowing the books but if more SW came after the books, they were not beholden to them. So, everyone was told that in advance, but when they actually do it, they're in the wrong??

The early proto-EU was not "policed". By the time of the Star Wars Renaissance of the 1990s, the publishers and LucasArts and staffers at Lucasfilm were working to actively make sure all the new EU content meshed, and were finding ways to massage older contradictory material. Things didn't get problematic until Episode I, when George not only reserved the right to ignore or use anything in the EU (he liked Tim Zahn's name for the pre-Empire capitol, and used it) but contradicted his own lore, notes, and commentary. Still no real problems until Episode II, when he utterly steamrolled all of the EU material about Boba Fett, and the tie-in authors had to madly jig to come up with rationalizations to make it all work. But they did. Episode III really threw a wrench into the lore, with the drawn out events -- as previously established by George in his commentary and notes -- of the Clone Wars (plural), dissolution of the Jedi, declaration of Empire, death/fall of Anakin, birth of the twins, and death of Padmé... all now take place on the same day. But it still didn't over-write most of the EU or the characters therein. So yeah. We felt "safe", if you will.

Then Clone Wars came along, and completely reconceptualized Mandalore and the Mandalorians. That was just after the Story Group was formed, and one wonders what they made of that vis-a-vis their role. Even then, there followed another five years of lore-building, with the EU still largely intact, rationalized, and otherwise "certain point of viewed" into something resembling how it had started out. It really was only with the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney that things changed drastically. First there was the one-two punch of them declaring the EU "Legends", and invalidating all the post-ROTJ stories and characters (and messing with a nonzero number of PT/OT-era characters and stories, too), coupled with the justification of "one canon". To have them then not follow that big assertion, it feels a bit like, "Well, then, why'd you bother to wipe out the EU when not even your precious new canon is safe"?

It wasn't that Lucasfilm reserved the right to ignore anything in the EU. It's that they largely didn't, but now that everything is supposedly equally sacrosanct, they're contradicting ancillary content left and right.

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

The gatekeeping/rudeness/insults in the SW and ST threads really need to stop. I want to read everyone's ideas, always open to learning, even from those I don't typically agree with.

 

[Axlotl]

The RPF has always been like this.
20 years ago it was arguments about the prequels.

 

[cboath]

The early proto-EU was not "policed". By the time of the Star Wars Renaissance of the 1990s, the publishers and LucasArts and staffers at Lucasfilm were working to actively make sure all the new EU content meshed, and were finding ways to massage older contradictory material. Things didn't get problematic until Episode I, when George not only reserved the right to ignore or use anything in the EU (he liked Tim Zahn's name for the pre-Empire capitol, and used it) but contradicted his own lore, notes, and commentary. Still no real problems until Episode II, when he utterly steamrolled all of the EU material about Boba Fett, and the tie-in authors had to madly jig to come up with rationalizations to make it all work. But they did. Episode III really threw a wrench into the lore, with the drawn out events -- as previously established by George in his commentary and notes -- of the Clone Wars (plural), dissolution of the Jedi, declaration of Empire, death/fall of Anakin, birth of the twins, and death of Padmé... all now take place on the same day. But it still didn't over-write most of the EU or the characters therein. So yeah. We felt "safe", if you will.

Then Clone Wars came along, and completely reconceptualized Mandalore and the Mandalorians. That was just after the Story Group was formed, and one wonders what they made of that vis-a-vis their role. Even then, there followed another five years of lore-building, with the EU still largely intact, rationalized, and otherwise "certain point of viewed" into something resembling how it had started out. It really was only with the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney that things changed drastically. First there was the one-two punch of them declaring the EU "Legends", and invalidating all the post-ROTJ stories and characters (and messing with a nonzero number of PT/OT-era characters and stories, too), coupled with the justification of "one canon". To have them then not follow that big assertion, it feels a bit like, "Well, then, why'd you bother to wipe out the EU when not even your precious new canon is safe"?

It wasn't that Lucasfilm reserved the right to ignore anything in the EU. It's that they largely didn't, but now that everything is supposedly equally sacrosanct, they're contradicting ancillary content left and right.

They werent beholden to stuff prior to heir to the empire and they werent beholden to anything before the ST. Only the content after that was 'equal' andcsame level canon. I dont know if they are ignoring that as i havent read any of it. It they ignore that, that would be an issue.

With heir and forward it was we they might use it as is, as they see fit, or not all. I read those books with that in mind and any change never affected me other than some minor disappointment. As for ignoring Kyle, i love those games but was never under any impression they were more than just games. I do a show on Kylex ould be great too.

 

[Wolfsburg]

I frankly think things are more civil now than they were 10 years ago. That said, I'm not really sensing any overwhelming disdain for Andor. Concerns sure, but no real hatred. I'm curious about it, if nothing else.

 

[Jodo]

I had thought of that too but I was afraid of bringing up the prequels with this bunch.

…Get the pitchforks.

 

[joberg]

Nah, it’s like James Bomd. You know he won’t d…. Oh wait.


I think this may be more how part of him dies having so much taken away by the Empire and having to do what must be done. So there is a terrible journey there.

Agreed! We know his end...and I think that the "gritty" in that trailer is a way to show his finitude after all those struggles

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

I was discussing this with someone yesterday, & with both this & Kenobi, we know the character's end, so what could be the appeal?

To me, it's more about the way the title character influences others that DO carry on after the character's end. To me, STAR WARS isn't just a single movie, or trilogy, or character, it's a UNIVERSE, & all kinds of stories can be told in universe, as long as they don't break it. That's the appeal for me to keep coming back, cause I LOVE the universe. Knowing the universe gives us a type of shorthand in understanding the story WITHOUT a TON if exposition to explain things like hyperspace, the political systems, the types of characters, etc. We can go into a story that's branded "STAR WARS" & pretty much hit the ground running.

That being said, with the ANDOR series, I'm looking to learn more about who the Cassian Andor we met in ROGUE ONE was, but mostly, I'm hoping to learn how Cassian Andor influenced the Rebellion that we first met in ANH.

If nothing else, I'm pumped to get some character development from Mon Mothma. That one shot from the trailer, when her voiceover says something about being watched, she walks away from a conversation smiling, but immediately gets a look of either disgust or fear on her face. Seeing her trying to balance service in the Senate & building a Rebellion is interesting to me.

Which brings me back to my conversation from yesterday. People will feel like this just doesn't "feel" like STAR WARS, & they're 100% right. ANH set the bar for Space Fantasy, has a very specific feel, but I enjoy that we can have other type stories, be it CLONE WARS, THE MANDALORIAN, EWOK ADVENTURES, or ROGUE SQUADRON that are different genres of stories that can speak to different audiences, but still be STAR WARS... to me, anyways. Your mileage & feelings may vary.

 

[CopperRevan]

Diego Luna is a good actor and was at least, believable in his role. What i appreciated the most about Rogue One was the acting. I saw Rogue One with my grown up sons and wife in the theater. At the end, i asked everyone at the same time what they thought. In almost perfect sync, every one of us said the exact same thing which was very weird and the first time thats ever happened. We said, "man, i don't know...if it wasn't for that Vader scene at the end it was kinda boring." lol. To me, i wanted to see Jedha explored and not blown up. Maybe Andor will explore more of Jedha somehow so i atleast have to give them credit for introducing a new place that intrigued me some. Of course i love lightsabers and Kyber Crystals and anything Jedi but that's just me.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Diego Luna is a good actor and was at least, believable in his role. What i appreciated the most about Rogue One was the acting. I saw Rogue One with my grown up sons and wife in the theater. At the end, i asked everyone at the same time what they thought. In almost perfect sync, every one of us said the exact same thing which was very weird and the first time thats ever happened. We said, "man, i don't know...if it wasn't for that Vader scene at the end it was kinda boring." lol. To me, i wanted to see Jedha explored and not blown up. Maybe Andor will explore more of Jedha somehow so i atleast have to give them credit for introducing a new place that intrigued me some. Of course i love lightsabers and Kyber Crystals and anything Jedi but that's just me.

From the trailer for JEDI: SURVIVOR, I'm thinking that Jedha might play a big role in that game.

 

[CopperRevan]

From the trailer for JEDI: SURVIVOR, I'm thinking that Jedha might play a big role in that game.

I haven't seen it yet. I'm not a huge gamer...since the NES and local arcades...lol

 

[CopperRevan]

I was wrong...Kotor was the last big game i played dealing with Star Wars and loved it!!

 

[Master Boda]

I haven't seen it yet. I'm not a huge gamer...since the NES and local arcades...lol

Man you missed out on ESB for Atari,that game had some of best looking 8bit pixels for 1981/1982.
I kind of hope in Andor we see more rebellion and almost cloak and dagger feel to it,was also cool to see Mon Mothma in the trailer.

 

[CopperRevan]

Man you missed out on ESB for Atari,that game had some of best looking 8bit pixels for 1981/1982.
I kind of hope in Andor we see more rebellion and almost cloak and dagger feel to it,was also cool to see Mon Mothma in the trailer.

I remember Atari but i was 6 yrs old...lol. My processing speed has severely slowed down so i should be able to handle the transition from 2 buttons and a thumb pad to 1 button and a joystick...lol

 

[Master Boda]

I remember Atari but i was 6 yrs old...lol. My processing speed has severely slowed down so i should be able to handle the transition from 2 buttons and a thumb pad to 1 button and a joystick...lol

I think you would do just fine,practice on PAC-Man for a few then you’ll be good to go.

 

[CopperRevan]

I think you would do just fine,practice on PAC-Man for a few then you’ll be good to go.

Not to detract from the thread, but when my older sons asked me to try Call of Duty i won the award for the most deaths and respawns in a single game...lol, They were so impressed they invited me to play Fortnite and the video was sent to SNL...lol

 

[Darth Lars]

Man you missed out on ESB for Atari,that game had some of best looking 8bit pixels for 1981/1982.

A little off-topic but: If you'd like to play that game again on a more modern computer with better graphics, there is a brand new port out of the game for the Commodore 64.

 

[CT1138]

Pure and simple fact: Star Wars continuity has always been loose and contradictory, and has been so since RotJ. Lucas has always retconned himself if he felt it necessary to his own vision. If you're going to complain that this doesn't jive with that, you're probably not going to enjoy the OT, where Luke retroactively tongues his sister TWICE, and only because Lucas wanted to retcon their relationship. What is actually "canon" in Star Wars is up to whoever is in charge of LucasFilm, and it always has been.