Star Trek Into Darkness (Post-release)

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If The Internet Had Existed When 'Wrath of Khan' Hit Theaters | Film School Rejects
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What's funny is that this isn't too far off the mark with some of the critics back in '82. Spock dying caused quite the uproar back then.


I've watched the movie twice in two days. Loved it! Liked it better the second time. I find that with the sometimes frenetic pace of films these days, it is difficult to absorb everything on the first viewing.

Nothing will equal Wrath of Khan for me, however I would put this film in my top three Trek films! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it!

I view this as the first adventures of our crew before they settled into their five year mission. I certainly had a lot of "adventures" in my youth before I settled into my career, and my life "slowed down."


Kevin
 
SSgt Burton said:
What's funny is that this isn't too far off the mark with some of the critics back in '82. Spock dying caused quite the uproar back then.


I've watched the movie twice in two days. Loved it! Liked it better the second time. I find that with the sometimes frenetic pace of films these days, it is difficult to absorb everything on the first viewing.

Nothing will equal Wrath of Khan for me, however I would put this film in my top three Trek films! Loved it! Loved it! Loved it!

I view this as the first adventures of our crew before they settled into their five year mission. I certainly had a lot of "adventures" in my youth before I settled into my career, and my life "slowed down."


Kevin
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Exactly! And wouldn't it be something to see a TV series come of the new 5-year mission?!!!! There was a glimmer of hope: J.J. Abrams Planned ?Star Trek? TV Show; Rights Issues Led to Jump to ?Star Wars??
 
I'm not sure if this has already been covered but for what reason whatsoever was it necessary for the Enterprise to submerge itself under water like it did at the beginning of the film?

Aside from my personal biases against having the ship operate in an atmosphere, it has transporters and shuttle craft... and for a supposed stealth mission in which it was imperative that none of the locals be made aware of their presence for fear of violating the Prime Directive... wouldn't the aforementioned transporter and shuttle craft be a tad more 'stealthy' than a 725 meter long starship?

The whole concept of the transporter was created by Gene Roddenberry because someone asked him how the ship was supposed to land.

Other than a plot point to have Kirk 'lose' his command for violating the Prime Directive, can anyone think of a reason why we needed to have submarine Enterprise?

That point aside... I can honestly say that I really enjoyed the film... it may not be the Trek that I watched in re-runs growing up, but it was still a fun roller coaster ride... well maybe for the whole "Khaaaaan" thing... I agree with some of what others have written about that taking you out of what up to that point was a very well done dramatic scene...
 
"If The Internet Had Existed When 'Wrath of Khan' Hit Theaters | Film School Rejects"

LOVED the movie. Saw 2d might try 3d with my other son. One problem related to the link above. I tried to avoid all discussion or clips of the film.
One article that someone posted on Twitter I saw my accident and the 1st line in bold was
Well now we know that the big secret is Khan
I feel a little cheated that I saw that. With that said I still loved the movie. It's that good.
 
Proper said:
Yes, me too. And the mention on the bridge of a 5-year mission at the end gave me goose-bumps; very exciting!
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Too bad JJ couldn't take the opportunity to show us something NEW and instead reuse old characters. Complete waste of it all when he could have shown us part of the 5 year mission we never saw on TV.
 
Kerr Avon said:
Too bad JJ couldn't take the opportunity to show us something NEW and instead reuse old characters. Complete waste of it all when he could have shown us part of the 5 year mission we never saw on TV.
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Sorry, I completely disagree. The movie was fantastic! It was 2 hours and 12 minutes of riveting Star Trek. Sorry you didn't enjoy it. TWOK "reused old characters" and it's a fan favorite--in fact I believe it's voted the best Trek movie prior to JJ's alternate U. And I concur.
 
Maybe this was already discussed, but why did Harris go find Kahn in this timeline, when in the original it was Kirk who discovered him later on. Maybe Harris had some information from original timeline Spock, or found in his ship?

Scott
 
While I do have a few nitpicks about some story logic, I did think the acting was really great throughout... except for one moment.

When Khan reveals himself to Kirk, he delivers the line with far too much grandiosity. "My name is Khaaan."

Rang false for me. JJ clearly wanted the delivery to be servicing to the fans. To get that ZOMG!! GASP!!! IT'S KHAN!!! reaction. But he forgets that Kirk and Co. don't know who the heck Khan is at that point.

I would have MUCH preferred a much more understated "my real name is Khan Noonian Singh."
 
Proper said:
We were both glued to our seats for 2 hours and 12 minutes. I was blown away by everything on the screen: the tongue-in-cheek story, the well-known heroes so faithfully re-created for us "original" fans, the mind-blowing special effects to snare the fans to follow. I laughed and cried, cheered and clapped. I gasped with surprise and nodded with satisfaction. ...

... What I am is very happy and appreciative that JJ Abrams is making Star Trek movies and Star Trek ships. Nothing takes away from my enjoyment of the continuing voyages. That's enough for me-and my son.
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That is exactly how I feel :thumbsup

Hey, we could have easily ended up with the equivalent of Yoda with mouse ears :lol
 
I went to see "Into Darkness" at it's late night showing and then last Sunday with some friends. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, more then the first if I am honest.

It's really nice to come here and read the comments left by fellow members and see I'm not the only person who thought the character interaction was much better in this movie, they all just seemed more at ease, which aided the film greatly. I accepted some time ago that the Star Trek i grew up with, is now resigned to fan made web productions. I can live with that, times have changed and the format of Star Trek has to adapt just like any other show. Doctor Who certainly hasn't done too bad since it's reboot.

I look forward to the next movie, tho it is with a little trepidation. I read online that J.J will most likely be too busy with Starwars to have time for making a ST:3. I really hope whom ever they get in to make the film, has the same skills to pull off a good movie and not some lousy movie that hangs on special effects and little or no story. Which seems to be the vice of most Hollywood movies these days.
 
Skaught said:
Maybe this was already discussed, but why did Harris go find Kahn in this timeline, when in the original it was Kirk who discovered him later on. Maybe Harris had some information from original timeline Spock, or found in his ship?

Scott
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You mean Adm Marcus, not Harris right?

He sought out Khan because of his superior intelligence and insight into warfare and military ship design. He believed that war with the Klingons (or any aggressive species) was inevitable and that Starfleet in its current role of exploration and peace would not be ready for it. So Khan helped design the Venegance ship- which is why Khan was able to help Kirk and Scotty take over the ship later.

Technically... a serious take on the plot of Demolition Man. ;)


Kevin
 
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Marcus wasn't looking specifically for Khan, he was looking for anything that would give Starfleet an advantage over the Klingons. Finding Khan was a happy accident.
 
Marcus didn't find Khan in the original timeline, so I assume something in the altered timeline triggered his search. Seems kind of dumb...he needed something to help so he poked around randomly in space in case something useful was out there?

Scott
 
Skaught said:
Marcus didn't find Khan in the original timeline, so I assume something in the altered timeline triggered his search. Seems kind of dumb...he needed something to help so he poked around randomly in space in case something useful was out there?

Scott
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I think the Nero incursion caused Starfleet to start a search to make sure no other threats were nearby. They came across the Botany Bay, and the rest is as we know it.
 
One thing I would like to say (since I've been listening to the Into Darkness score all morning):

I FRACKING LOVE the music Michael Giacchino has been doing for these Trek films. I believe that it's become second only to Jerry Goldsmith's score for The Motion Picture in terms of my favorite Trek music.
 
Zuiun said:
One thing I would like to say (since I've been listening to the Into Darkness score all morning):

I FRACKING LOVE the music Michael Giacchino has been doing for these Trek films. I believe that it's become second only to Jerry Goldsmith's score for The Motion Picture in terms of my favorite Trek music.
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I agree... Now if he would only stop coming up with those ridiculously punny titles for each piece, it'd be perfect...

Star Trek Track Listing:
1. Star Trek (1:03)
2. Nailin’ the Kelvin (2:09)
3. Labor of Love (2:51)
4. Hella Bar Talk (1:55)
5. Enterprising Young Men (2:39)
6. Nero Sighted (3:23)
7. Nice To Meld You (3:13)
8. Run and Shoot Offense (2:04)
9. Does It Still McFly? (2:03)
10. Nero Death Experience (5:38)
11. Nero Fiddles, Narada Burns (2:34)
12. Back From Black :)59)
13. That New Car Smell (4:46)
14. To Boldly Go :)26)
15. End Credits (9:11)

Star Trek: Into Darkness Track Listing:
1. Logos/Pranking The Natives (3:01)
2. Spock Drops, Kirk Jumps (1:43)
3. Sub Prime Directive* (2:23)
4. London Calling (2:09)
5. Meld-merized (2:40)
6. The Kronos Wartet (5:25)
7. Brigadoom (3:41)
8. Ship To Ship (2:50)
9. Earthbound And Down (2:37)
10. Warp Core Values (2:56)
11. Buying The Space Farm (3:17)
12. The San Fran Hustle (5:00)
13. Kirk Enterprises* (3:00)
14. Star Trek Main Theme* (3:25)
 
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I think we can pretty much just say the Nero incursion changed everything. Even things that took place before the Kelvin attack. :lol
 
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