Spider-man Disney/Sony deal over? New Deal achieved for Spidey 3 & involvement in Marvel MCU

Wasn't it rumored last year that the reason Sony announced all the Spidey villain stand-alone movies was to "up" the value of Sony Pictures and entice a company like Disney or Comcast to buy it? I've read Sony's current CEO isn't too keen on the viability of their film entertainment wing (Sony Pictures). I wonder if this is still Sony's own endgame so to speak.
 
I do find one thing kinda funny...

I mean you cut a deal to share a character, knowing there will be a renegotiation down the line....

So Marvel goes and makes Spider-man a pretty integral part of the Avengers... I mean bringing Peter back was the driving force behind Tony risking his family.

Sony musta been watching just rubbing hands together laughing... it's like renting your house out to someone and they're renovating it while they live there - then when you want to sell they're like, "Yeah! I get 50% right?!"

"Hahahah... nah. Thanks tho!"

Not a perfect analogy... but feels like that...

Disney, maybe you shouldn't have made Peter the next "Tony Stark" until you renegotiated... Now you don't hold the cards.
 
Wasn't it rumored last year that the reason Sony announced all the Spidey villain stand-alone movies was to "up" the value of Sony Pictures and entice a company like Disney or Comcast to buy it? I've read Sony's current CEO isn't too keen on the viability of their film entertainment wing (Sony Pictures). I wonder if this is still Sony's own endgame so to speak.
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"Oh I'm gonna get that Company...."
 
So Sony came out today and said this split is less about money, and more about Feige not being able to be involved as much as they’d like now that he’s got the Fox properties on his hands.

I can kind of see that point.

Sony wants a Spidey flick as often as possible, but with Feige now working on current MCU character films, figuring out a way to bring X-Men into the fold, and working on Fantastic Four stuff...he probably can’t guarantee So y that he’ll be able to do a Spider-Man film every two years.

I mean...that’s still technically all about money, but it’s not necessarily JUST about splitting costs and profits.
 
I’m just really disappointed, was really looking forward to seeing where this character goes...
 
It’ll still happen. I’m calling it.

Feige LOVES Spider-Man... and just like his love and need for Gunn in phase 4, he’ll want spidey as well.

Sony has gold with Miles Morales, but I think they know as well they can’t do Peter Parker without Happy trying to get with Aunt May.
 
It’ll still happen. I’m calling it.

Feige LOVES Spider-Man... and just like his love and need for Gunn in phase 4, he’ll want spidey as well.

Sony has gold with Miles Morales, but I think they know as well they can’t do Peter Parker without Happy trying to get with Aunt May.

Neo I sure hope so
 
Even though it means we'd probably get worse Spider-Man movies, I kinda like how Sony told Disney to F off lol.
 
Can't buy sony's take. Marvel has been setting up Peter to take over the Tony role nearly from the beginning knowing that RDJ was going to exit at some point. Letting him go throws a large wrench into their plan. Don't see them willingly letting him go.

I can very much buy the reasoning that they don't want to wait until phase 5 for another spiderman, but one of the successes of marvel i think is they aren't putting out the same character every 18-24 months. There's value in the break...
 
Sony needs Spiderman in the MCU more than the MCU needs Spiderman in it. The MCU-Spiderman is a profitable combination that does everything Sony dreamed about, taking the character solo once again will result in another string of 'Amazing Spiderman' disappointments.

While they were place setting Parker to be the "new" Tony Stark, I do not really see it that much. Peter is an endearing character, but he just used the tech that Tony created. He is not rich, he is not an innovative genius, he does have fighting skill now and he is heroic, but that is not enough to replace Tony IMO.
 
This is going to be a major boondoggle if they don't get it straightened out and I don't buy Sony's shade throwing explanation in the least. I find it much more plausible that Disney wanted to renegotiate for more money and Sony wouldn't budge. That being said, now that Spider-Man has been in the MCU I'm not interested in one that isn't. I've got plenty of things to spend money on that don't piss me off.
 
Either way it shakes out, Marvel can work with it. Peter goes into hiding after his identity is blown, and he takes his aunt and friends with to protect them, and they're never seen or heard from again. Meanwhile, a teenage/twenty-something Reed Richards rolls up to be the new wunderkind.

Hopefully obviously, my preference is for them to get this sorted out in a way they can keep Peter in the MCU, but I know Sony doesn't have a whole lot of bargaining leverage and I afraid they don't realize that.

I'm already bitter enough that the ABC and Netflix series that I invested so much time in are now now even peripherally tied to the MCU. I feel that does such a disservice to those productions, and im hoping they change their mind at some point.
 
Without me sitting in the room during negotiations I can only go by what I have read and I have to say SONY sounds like they are full of it. Look at how many fumbles SONY has made with their properties, from the Ghostbusters reboot to the horrible Spider-man 3 and Garfield Reboots. They have had WAY more misfires than Marvel has had. I honestly think what happened is that since they lucked out and Venom did well at the Box Office that a bean counter accountant decided to lead the charge that they could do it all on their own. This is a mess anyway you look at it, how will they resolve the end of Spider-Man Homecoming? That has a LOT of Marvel characters in it that will be needed to wrap up the storyline. Other than ANOTHER reboot I can not see what the heck Sony could do to get this straightened out.
 
Back for a 70/30 split.


It’s about time. Sony and MCU were both taking damage from the protracted impasse.
Is this true? I do not see anything online confirming it. I read a few articles that said Sony WASN'T EVEN WILLING TO GIVE DISNEY 30% DEAL.



Another article even said: "It should be noted that co-finance deals also don’t always involve an equal splitting of earnings, which is something else people will ignore as they continue their misinformed online outrage fits. Also, there have been some rumors floating around that Disney went as low as wanting 20%, which Sony still rejected."
 
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Is this true? I do not see anything online confirming it. I read a few articles that said Sony WASN'T EVEN WILLING TO GIVE DISNEY 30% DEAL.



Another article even said: "It should be noted that co-finance deals also don’t always involve an equal splitting of earnings, which is something else people will ignore as they continue their misinformed online outrage fits. Also, there have been some rumors floating around that Disney went as low as wanting 20%, which Sony still rejected."

It would be amazing if it was, but as you say, can't find any breaking news anywhere else on the net

J
 
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