Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club (PIC HEAVY!)

Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

For my part, I am having serious problems with my eagle spine. I need to find a way to get a stronger bond between the wood and the aluminium so that the joins are stronger! Because they keep breaking open. I have been thinking about drilling and somehow pinning each joint but just the thought of that makes me feel sick inside. I may have to scrap my spine completely and start again with other materials, be that copper tubing or plastic.....at this point I am pretty despondent, as this comes right on the back of my cockpit cockup.... To be honest, right now I am pretty hacked off with the whole build...

is the wood painted or primed? That might be why you aren't getting good adhesion. I think, not sure but think you should primer individual surfaces first before joining. you might have to primer sand and then join them.
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Only me again.

Tweaked the set up slightly and tidied it up in sketchup. You can see the recessed door way in this picture set. Although not important for this virtual build I adjusted the Command module hull plates by reducing their thickness to better represent where I want to be.

I hope to soon get the CM views printed to start some sort of construction going for real.
I should also be able to use the command module interior, from the virtual model, to create the printed card/styrene 'real' parts for use in the model.

The hardest part of this is trying to stay true to the 'canon' of the series eagle despite the obvious and much discussed interior/exterior clashes.

F3n
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Hi, only you! :)

That's looking really interesting! I can see major advantages to the method you're using. Can't wait to see it evolve from this stage!:)

Update time!

Our friend greylocke has inspired me to attempt the drill-lathe method!:thumbsup

I picked up some more of those lovely :sick plastic goblets from the dollar store, figuring I'd mess up at least one of them while trying to lathe them into shape. If I don't mess up, I'll even have enough to perhaps build a booster unit for my Eagle if I choose to later on! :love
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I'm going to used one of them just to experiment with. I carefully drilled a center hole on the bottom of the glass, so it won't wobble ridiculously when spinning on the drill. That's critical!
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I inserted a bolt through the hole, and secured both sides with a washer and nuts. The bolt will insert into the drill chuck.
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I cut away the excess plastic with my band saw. That was pretty easy. I then tried it out on the drill, and it spun pretty smoothly with almost no perceptible wobble. So far, so good. I then put the plastic back on the band saw and cut away a little more of the edge.
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I clamped the drill into my vice, careful to make it snug, yet not so tight it would crack the drill casing. I then tried it out. Mostly with a file, I ground down the remaining rough edge along the bottom, controlling the drill speed with my finger on the trigger (this is why I mounted the drill upside-down, so I'd have better access to the trigger!). I can already see I'll have to devise a way to keep the drill more steady, as there was a bit of up-down movement from pivoting in the vise. That's okay, that's why I wanted to experiment with this one. I did get a bit carried away with too much speed and pressure, and a few hairline cracks formed along the edge where i assume the plastic heated too much and too unevenly. Even if this happens later on, I don't think it'll affect the finished product, but I want to play it safe.
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Since it basically seems to work, I'll have to secure the drill better. For now, I contented myself with cutting away the extra plastic (and drilling the bottom holes) on four of the glasses.
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Fun interlude: it was enjoyable to break away the melted edge of plastic after coming off the band saw. It reminded me of the childish joy one gets from breaking the little air beads on bubble wrap (except in this case there was no little 'pop' sounds!).
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Now I have four basic shapes awaiting my perfecting my improvised drill-lathe!
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While visiting a friend who happened to be packing up his things in preparation for ice fishing this winter, I happened to spy upon a few items in his tackle box, items which prompted me to go shopping in the sporting goods department...
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One never knows where inspiration will pop up, and for about $1.83, I picked up six fishing floats, four of which will become those round fuel tanks on the back of my Eagle! They come in a bunch of sizes, and these 1 1/4 inch ones will do quite nicely. I removed the inner spring mechanisms, and realized they even have pre-determined center holes on each side, which I will need! :)
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

What an update on those bells, Bob! I know those "eureka" moments when you discover something you could use from the most unlikely places :) Next thing they'll be selling those fishing floats as Eagle fuel tanks for 12 bucks a pop.
 
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Wow and DOUBLE WOW!!! :eek
Bob, those glasses are going to be GREAT! And the drill lathe looks like a great solution.

Fen, that CGI work is astounding and, like Bob, I look forward to more updates. Great work!:)

For my part, due to circumstances beyond my control, I have unfortunately been away from home this last week and will be back in a few more days hopefully. Then, I can also get back to building.

Keep it up guys, I love it!

And then there were three :)
 
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It's good to have another member joining the build (F3n)! Chrisisall, you are more than welcome to join in...we all know you have the talent! :)

Wow and DOUBLE WOW!!! :eek
Bob, those glasses are going to be GREAT! And the drill lathe looks like a great solution.

Yeah, so far it's going good. Started on one of the bells this morning, and the surface is nice and smooth, with no hairline cracking. The challenge is going to be scribing those grooves in the side: if too unevenly spaced, they will look crappy. And using my primitive set-up is not making things easier (at the moment my workshop bench no longer even exists. When I was clearing out for moving, I did not anticipate needing it then!)


For my part, due to circumstances beyond my control, I have unfortunately been away from home this last week and will be back in a few more days hopefully. Then, I can also get back to building.

When you return, your package should be awaiting you, too! :)

And then there were three :)

Let me guess: Genesis fan?
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

I meant: me, you, and F3n

Oh, I knew that's what you meant...I just wondered if it was a subtle reference to their album of that name! :lol

My work week starts this evening, so instead of sitting around watching the clock :sleep , I decided to do some engine bell work. I'm starting to get the hang of this drill!
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I transferred the dimensions from my blueprint to the bell with simple pen lines, drawn on while the "lathe" was turning. I then engraved the lines.
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Problem is, it's hard to see the finished results with the transparent material, so I tried primering to see where i was at.
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It's definitely heading in the right direction, I'd say, so I tried cutting and sanding down another bell.
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Hmm...I'm not liking this bell. Basing it on this blueprint, it's looking to me more like a flower pot :wacko ! Of course, that could be because I kept thinking of a potter's wheel while I was using it!
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It needs...something...so I'm going to use the styling from the original model (at least I think it's an original...regardless, I like the look better).
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I added more angularity to the sides and re-scribed new lines after grinding away the old ones. I held back somewhat on the angularity, for this plastic is somewhat thick, but I was worried about cutting through to the other side! I'm liking this much better though, and with a few more refinements, I think this will work! First version on the left, refined version on the right.....
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Well, that's all I had time for tonight. Till next time, be well, all! :)
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

To control the speed if your drill doesn't have a control built in use a router speed controller. To secure it in the vise better run 2 or 3 large hose clamps around the drill with some wood shims under them to give the drill flatter sides. My drill has a speed controller built into the trigger, but I can't adjust it once the trigger is locked down. With a router speed controller I can set the drill to full speed and then use the dial on the speed controller to adjust it.

They look good sir, I'm glad you were able to use the drill lathe method.
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Since the first time I saw this thread, I'm still looking for my lost jaw.
I'm beginning to think that the only thing that this model can't do is hopping around the real space. :eek
........Such a build

katsu
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

To control the speed if your drill doesn't have a control built in use a router speed controller. To secure it in the vise better run 2 or 3 large hose clamps around the drill with some wood shims under them to give the drill flatter sides. My drill has a speed controller built into the trigger, but I can't adjust it once the trigger is locked down. With a router speed controller I can set the drill to full speed and then use the dial on the speed controller to adjust it.

Those are interesting ideas, greylocke. Unfortunately, my workshop is dismantled at the moment, and many of my tools are not here. I was just lucky I had my big old heavy vice handy. Without even a work bench to mount it to, I had to set it on the floor to work. I'm just lucky my drill is variable speed! That, and some basic cutting tools I have enabled me (barely) to pull this off.
That said, I'm thinking about using a drill in the future to construct a custom mini-lathe to use for purposes just such as this. I'm not about to shell out for a new one for my modeling, since with my luck I'll never need one again, and this is working quite well even with my current limitations. A few refinements, a solid mount, a speed control such as you suggest, and I should be in business the next time I need to turn something!
I can't thank you enough for the idea. I really had no clue how I was going to do this. If I can be of any service in return, let me know!
I'm going to try to finish shaping these bells in the next couple of days.
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Since the first time I saw this thread, I'm still looking for my lost jaw.
I'm beginning to think that the only thing that this model can't do is hopping around the real space. :eek
........Such a build

katsu

Katsu-san, you flatter me with your words. My space ship is no comparison to the one you are constructing! But thank you for looking! :)

I hope my next project will be to your liking: it is something that will be original in design. That is all I will say for now! :)

But the three ships here will keep this thread busy for some time...enjoy them!
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Katsu-san, you flatter me with your words.

I hope my next project will be to your liking: it is something that will be original in design. That is all I will say for now! :)

Then I have to buy a jaw for spare!! :confused

Katsu
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Hi here is my own large scale scratchbuilt eagle she is just over 50 inches long and has been bought by a collector here I am holding my baby before she left to fly in space.

regards Barrie please let me know what you think.
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

Wow, Barrie! That is just so cool! Have you got any buildup pics somewhere? Bob, those engine bells are looking mighty great!
 
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Wow, barrie..that looks great! :thumbsup

Like crackerjazz, I'd be interested in seeing build pics, too. Or, just plain old "more pics"...she does indeed look like a beauty!

You guys are something: seems my 39" Eagle is the smallest one here!! :confused
 
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)

thank you very much for your comments, yes I have build images a great many I will try to get sum iploaded thought this is not my best thing on computers it alwaysseems to take a wrong turn somewhere.
if I fail feel free to e mail me at bcl2416661@aol.com now be caferul my address is lower case B for Barrie C for charlie and L for lema not a one I look forward to hearing from you should I be unable to get images on line.

regards barrie.
 
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