Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club (PIC HEAVY!)
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LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED Oct29th (PIC HEAVY!)
I had that happen to me once after I put the engine back in my '76 Pontiac Ventura.:lol
I had that happen to me once after I put the engine back in my '76 Pontiac Ventura.:lol
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED Oct29th (PIC HEAVY!)
Thanks, greylocke! I hope the next update is very soon...I must go for supplies first, though!
Thanks, greylocke! I hope the next update is very soon...I must go for supplies first, though!
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED Oct29th (PIC HEAVY!)
An update before I embark on my final work night of the week...
Following the suggestion of IEDBOUNTYHUNTER and Robn1, I purchased the bondo spot putty and applied it to the nose cone. Just a thin layer to "round out" some of the low areas. While I'm at work tonight, this can dry out, and I can try sanding it tomorrow...
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Could turn out great, could be a disaster. We shall soon see..!:confused
An update before I embark on my final work night of the week...
Following the suggestion of IEDBOUNTYHUNTER and Robn1, I purchased the bondo spot putty and applied it to the nose cone. Just a thin layer to "round out" some of the low areas. While I'm at work tonight, this can dry out, and I can try sanding it tomorrow...
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Could turn out great, could be a disaster. We shall soon see..!:confused
crackerjazz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
The suspense is killing me, Bob -- how'd it turn out? : )
The suspense is killing me, Bob -- how'd it turn out? : )
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Crackerjazz! Buddy! Long time no hear! I was wondering what happened to you. Now all we need to do is round up chrisisall, and it'll be like old home week! Now, let your suspense, well...be suspended!
Update, part 1:
I sanded down the red spot putty from last time, to round out the flatter spots...
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Since it's practically impossible (for me, at least) to visualize the contours in this rough form, I spray primered the piece, which always makes the crude spots pop right out...
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I resumed sanding, trying to get ever closer to the desired shape...
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Re-primered...
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Adding a bit more putty here and there, and sanding once again...
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...and yet another coat of primer...
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It's starting to look pretty good now. I'll probably do a bit more touching up at a later time, but I have to remind myself that 90% of what is now visible will be hidden underneath those thick outer plates. Still, the better it is before that, the better the end results will be...hopefully!
Update, part 2:
I think I mentioned in a previous post how the lathe I was going to use to make the engine bells was sneakily sold out from behind my back. Well, I was pretty stuck on how I was going to construct them, so I went on a mission to those dollar stores, looking to "pull a Darren" and find some plastic glassware to use for the shapes. Well, I got lucky...
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I found these lovely drinking vessels :sick for a dollar each. It seems a shame to ruin such beautiful items :sick for a model project, but one must make sacrifices.
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The dimensions of the lower half of the 'glass' is astonishingly close to the bell dimensions on my Eagle blueprint. And the plastic is thick enough to give it a look of functional weight. Now, like Darren, I must find a way to groove the contours into them. I may be experimenting with a drill, as suggested earlier by someone (I apologize for not naming this individual, since I'm writing this offline, but I will when I get to this task).
I hope you enjoyed this installment!
Crackerjazz! Buddy! Long time no hear! I was wondering what happened to you. Now all we need to do is round up chrisisall, and it'll be like old home week! Now, let your suspense, well...be suspended!
Update, part 1:
I sanded down the red spot putty from last time, to round out the flatter spots...
View attachment 125464View attachment 125465View attachment 125466
Since it's practically impossible (for me, at least) to visualize the contours in this rough form, I spray primered the piece, which always makes the crude spots pop right out...
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I resumed sanding, trying to get ever closer to the desired shape...
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Re-primered...
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Adding a bit more putty here and there, and sanding once again...
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...and yet another coat of primer...
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It's starting to look pretty good now. I'll probably do a bit more touching up at a later time, but I have to remind myself that 90% of what is now visible will be hidden underneath those thick outer plates. Still, the better it is before that, the better the end results will be...hopefully!
Update, part 2:
I think I mentioned in a previous post how the lathe I was going to use to make the engine bells was sneakily sold out from behind my back. Well, I was pretty stuck on how I was going to construct them, so I went on a mission to those dollar stores, looking to "pull a Darren" and find some plastic glassware to use for the shapes. Well, I got lucky...
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I found these lovely drinking vessels :sick for a dollar each. It seems a shame to ruin such beautiful items :sick for a model project, but one must make sacrifices.
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The dimensions of the lower half of the 'glass' is astonishingly close to the bell dimensions on my Eagle blueprint. And the plastic is thick enough to give it a look of functional weight. Now, like Darren, I must find a way to groove the contours into them. I may be experimenting with a drill, as suggested earlier by someone (I apologize for not naming this individual, since I'm writing this offline, but I will when I get to this task).
I hope you enjoyed this installment!
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
That's a pretty impressive update! Your CM is really taking shape now and it's looking really nice!
I shall be very interested to see how you sculpt/mould the plates to sit on top, especially the front nose piece.
Those glasses were a great find, too and, to be honest, you are definitely doing the world a favour by cutting them up and painting them!! :lol
I think they will work out just great!
For my part, I am having serious problems with my eagle spine. I need to find a way to get a stronger bond between the wood and the aluminium so that the joins are stronger! Because they keep breaking open. I have been thinking about drilling and somehow pinning each joint but just the thought of that makes me feel sick inside. I may have to scrap my spine completely and start again with other materials, be that copper tubing or plastic.....at this point I am pretty despondent, as this comes right on the back of my cockpit cockup.... To be honest, right now I am pretty hacked off with the whole build...
Great work on your side though, Bob. Seriously impressive stuff!
That's a pretty impressive update! Your CM is really taking shape now and it's looking really nice!
I shall be very interested to see how you sculpt/mould the plates to sit on top, especially the front nose piece.
Those glasses were a great find, too and, to be honest, you are definitely doing the world a favour by cutting them up and painting them!! :lol
I think they will work out just great!
For my part, I am having serious problems with my eagle spine. I need to find a way to get a stronger bond between the wood and the aluminium so that the joins are stronger! Because they keep breaking open. I have been thinking about drilling and somehow pinning each joint but just the thought of that makes me feel sick inside. I may have to scrap my spine completely and start again with other materials, be that copper tubing or plastic.....at this point I am pretty despondent, as this comes right on the back of my cockpit cockup.... To be honest, right now I am pretty hacked off with the whole build...
Great work on your side though, Bob. Seriously impressive stuff!
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Thanks, Darren! Yeah, I too will be interested to see how I sculpt/mold the plates! :confused
I was amused at the cash register, when the lady commented, "oh, those are nice!" :lol
I was just reviewing the section backthread where you made the spine. I could hear the happiness in your voice. Now, all you need is a way to attach the parts more strongly. The glue that is coming your way may well be good for that, I'm not sure. I recall using it on metal in the past, but to be honest I can't recall how that worked out. Another possibility would be to wrap a single layer of masking tape under the aluminum to "force" the pieces to stay in place. As for attaching the separate rods together, wood on wood, the glue which is coming your way may work well for that. Drilling holes into the pieces and inserting long, thin machine screws may work as well. It's hard fore me to say without it all in front of me.
My point is, there is a solution.
Please don't be. When that lathe got sold out from behind my back (I seem to keep saying that, don't I?), my first thought was, "Well, so much for my Eagle." I didn't have a clue as to how to build the engine bells any other way. I took a page from your book, and looked for plastic glasses. That, and a little luck in searching, got me four glasses for four dollars, far less than the cost of a lathe.
I'm not expressing this well, but don't give up. Expect problems. What about Thomas Edison, experimenting with like a thousand different types of filaments for his light bulb? His genius was not a by-product of getting it right the first time.
I may be having similar problems before long. Attaching the front and back sections of my CM is not going to be a picnic. The margin for error is quite great. I think I can say confidently that the CM as a whole is the most difficult part of this build for both of us. That makes it our challenge to overcome, not the point at which we stop! We're both going to need fortitude for this. I will try to help you in any way I can. This is our build club, not build contest! Besides, you may end up doing great, and I'll be the despondent one after I get spray primer coating the interior of the module because my mask failed!
March on, I say! :thumbsup
Thanks! It's nice to know someone is reading...:confused
Thanks, Darren! Yeah, I too will be interested to see how I sculpt/mold the plates! :confused
I was amused at the cash register, when the lady commented, "oh, those are nice!" :lol
I was just reviewing the section backthread where you made the spine. I could hear the happiness in your voice. Now, all you need is a way to attach the parts more strongly. The glue that is coming your way may well be good for that, I'm not sure. I recall using it on metal in the past, but to be honest I can't recall how that worked out. Another possibility would be to wrap a single layer of masking tape under the aluminum to "force" the pieces to stay in place. As for attaching the separate rods together, wood on wood, the glue which is coming your way may work well for that. Drilling holes into the pieces and inserting long, thin machine screws may work as well. It's hard fore me to say without it all in front of me.
My point is, there is a solution.
Please don't be. When that lathe got sold out from behind my back (I seem to keep saying that, don't I?), my first thought was, "Well, so much for my Eagle." I didn't have a clue as to how to build the engine bells any other way. I took a page from your book, and looked for plastic glasses. That, and a little luck in searching, got me four glasses for four dollars, far less than the cost of a lathe.
I'm not expressing this well, but don't give up. Expect problems. What about Thomas Edison, experimenting with like a thousand different types of filaments for his light bulb? His genius was not a by-product of getting it right the first time.
I may be having similar problems before long. Attaching the front and back sections of my CM is not going to be a picnic. The margin for error is quite great. I think I can say confidently that the CM as a whole is the most difficult part of this build for both of us. That makes it our challenge to overcome, not the point at which we stop! We're both going to need fortitude for this. I will try to help you in any way I can. This is our build club, not build contest! Besides, you may end up doing great, and I'll be the despondent one after I get spray primer coating the interior of the module because my mask failed!
March on, I say! :thumbsup
Thanks! It's nice to know someone is reading...:confused
jedimaster
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Na.... I'm still readin..... Just never been one to say..." wooo..... Nice sanding dude ". Keep it coming... I'm sure you'll get a response from me soon.opcorn:lol
Na.... I'm still readin..... Just never been one to say..." wooo..... Nice sanding dude ". Keep it coming... I'm sure you'll get a response from me soon.
opcorn:lolRe: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
lol:lol
" If you build it, [they] will come!" - Field OF Dreams...
Na.... I'm still readin..... Just never been one to say..." wooo..... Nice sanding dude ". Keep it coming... I'm sure you'll get a response from me soon.
lol:lol" If you build it, [they] will come!" - Field OF Dreams...
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
:lol Very true, very true. I guess it has been pretty much sanding 'till the cows come home lately! I was originally just gonna wait to post, but I wanted to preserve the 'you are there' feeling, and suddenly showing up one day with "The command module is now finished" seemed like a lazy way out. Better yet, just post the finished product and say "I built this Eagle"! Hard to know sometimes when to update things!
Just let me know when I go too far and start doing "I removed the x-acto knife from the drawer, and noticed it needed a new blade, so I replaced it. Then I carefully cut open the styrene bag and removed a piece from it..." type stuff! :confused
Na.... I'm still readin..... Just never been one to say..." wooo..... Nice sanding dude ". Keep it coming... I'm sure you'll get a response from me soon.
:lol Very true, very true. I guess it has been pretty much sanding 'till the cows come home lately! I was originally just gonna wait to post, but I wanted to preserve the 'you are there' feeling, and suddenly showing up one day with "The command module is now finished" seemed like a lazy way out. Better yet, just post the finished product and say "I built this Eagle"! Hard to know sometimes when to update things!
Just let me know when I go too far and start doing "I removed the x-acto knife from the drawer, and noticed it needed a new blade, so I replaced it. Then I carefully cut open the styrene bag and removed a piece from it..." type stuff! :confused
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
I'm reading to. Good works still being done. The remeadial issues are a 'challenge' not a problem! Just keep repeating that.
I'm doodling my 'build' in sketchup to iron out the external/internal conundrum. Prior to doing a 'real build' myself.
So please keep at it chaps. Your successes and 'challangers' will help me.
F3n
I'm reading to. Good works still being done. The remeadial issues are a 'challenge' not a problem! Just keep repeating that.
I'm doodling my 'build' in sketchup to iron out the external/internal conundrum. Prior to doing a 'real build' myself.
So please keep at it chaps. Your successes and 'challangers' will help me.
F3n
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Nice job! Wish I'd done something like that, it might have saved a lot of little headaches along the way! :wacko
That'd be awesome to see another build!
Nice job! Wish I'd done something like that, it might have saved a lot of little headaches along the way! :wacko
That'd be awesome to see another build!
crackerjazz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
I'm reading. And dreaming....about one sitting on my desk. Yes, that was a pretty impressive update about your sanding progress Darren, have you considered using 2part kneadable epoxy for your wood and aluminum joints? I remember doing that one time on my RC stuff and it held on pretty well. Had to create a little notch on the wood and pressed the stuff into it. The epoxy had no problem clinging to the aluminum.
I'm reading. And dreaming....about one sitting on my desk. Yes, that was a pretty impressive update about your sanding progress
Darren, have you considered using 2part kneadable epoxy for your wood and aluminum joints? I remember doing that one time on my RC stuff and it held on pretty well. Had to create a little notch on the wood and pressed the stuff into it. The epoxy had no problem clinging to the aluminum.
LMFAOSchwarz
Sr Member
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Crackerjazz may be onto something there. If that stuff will hold up for rc purposes, it should do nicely for a static model!
Good thinking!
Crackerjazz may be onto something there. If that stuff will hold up for rc purposes, it should do nicely for a static model!
Good thinking!
Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Hi Gents
I think I've settled on my internal set up ready for an attempt at a build.
For me I've gone for the chairs on a raised plinth, as done by others, as it is easier to align the doors.
The door is recessed from the exterior and the connecting door from the walkway has an extended frame which plugs into the command module door recess.
The module interior has been stretched width ways and the floor and ceiling adjusted to stay within the hull walls and allow for the 'matching' scale occupants.
As a side point The scale factor between the studio 43.25" and Atlantia's 52.25" is 1.21. This makes my 60mm tall figures 72.6mm. Which at 2.85" is pretty close to the figures Atlantia has used for his build.
Here's an image of the CM.
F3n
Hi Gents
I think I've settled on my internal set up ready for an attempt at a build.
For me I've gone for the chairs on a raised plinth, as done by others, as it is easier to align the doors.
The door is recessed from the exterior and the connecting door from the walkway has an extended frame which plugs into the command module door recess.
The module interior has been stretched width ways and the floor and ceiling adjusted to stay within the hull walls and allow for the 'matching' scale occupants.
As a side point The scale factor between the studio 43.25" and Atlantia's 52.25" is 1.21. This makes my 60mm tall figures 72.6mm. Which at 2.85" is pretty close to the figures Atlantia has used for his build.
Here's an image of the CM.
F3n
LMFAOSchwarz
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Re: Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club UPDATED NOV 3RD (PIC HEAVY!)
Hi, F3!
Looks like you've done your homework, for sure!
I had thought about raising the CM seats, too...almost did. The module is a brain-twister, to be sure... but I love to see the various solutions that people come up with! You and Darren have done far more research than I, which will only help you in the long run. There were a couple of times I was tempted to throw mine in the trash and give up, rather than figure out the conundrums! :confused
Hi, F3!
Looks like you've done your homework, for sure!
I had thought about raising the CM seats, too...almost did. The module is a brain-twister, to be sure... but I love to see the various solutions that people come up with! You and Darren have done far more research than I, which will only help you in the long run. There were a couple of times I was tempted to throw mine in the trash and give up, rather than figure out the conundrums! :confused
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