Solo ANH Hero Scope Mount. New Pics near the end

You're quite correct, Dave. I hadn't considered that. :)

Looking at my MARK IV Denix, the magazine taper is obvious, and Mark Worley even used a higher spacer in the back and a shorter one in the front to reproduce the Chronicles tilt on his replica:

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Strangely enough, however, the shorter front spacer and the narrower magazine do not make for a very noticable tilt to the naked eye. I imagine equally thick spacers would make the tilt even less evident. That's why I'd like to see your pics.

Gav - I don't know if the taper on a Denix is greater or lesser than on a real Mauser. Could you please check this out, i.e., the difference in thickness between the rear section and the magazine?

Thanks,

- Gabe
 
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Here are two top views of my Denix based ANH Hero (I wish that I had a better digital camera and was better at using it). They give a pretty good idea of the angle of the bracket along side the mauser although the top pic is distorted from the angle I was taking it (I tried to match it to the Chronicles pics as best I could when I was building it) .

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Cheers,

Dave C
 
Dave,

Your blaster kicks ass. :thumbsup

I really like how you attached the cradle to the vertical bracket - matches my design rather closely, I think. :) The ony accuracy comment I can safely make is that the screw holes on the cradle should be non-concentric the flanges. It also looks cast to me - is it metal? The way the vertical bracket attaches to the horizontal bar is also identical to my MARK IV - do you own one of his kits, or did you design and fabricate everything yourself? I'm not familiar with Bobadebt's or anybody else's kits.

Could someone also post close-ups of their MR blaster scope bracket? I've never seen one of those up close either.

Thanks,

- Gabe
 
Originally posted by Prop Runner@Nov 3 2005, 12:53 PM
Dave,

Your blaster kicks ass. :thumbsup

I really like how you attached the cradle to the vertical bracket - matches my design rather closely, I think. :)  The ony accuracy comment I can safely make is that the screw holes on the cradle should be non-concentric the flanges.  It also looks cast to me - is it metal?  The way the vertical bracket attaches to the horizontal bar is also identical to my MARK IV - do you own one of his kits, or did you design and fabricate everything yourself?  I'm not familiar with Bobadebt's or anybody else's kits.

Could someone also post close-ups of their MR blaster scope bracket?  I've never seen one of those up close either.

Thanks,

- Gabe
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Thanks Gabe, I 'preciate the compliments :)

My blaster is a mishmash of parts: Boba Debt, Blast-Tech, Corellian Exports, and custom made. The scope/mount and muzzle are modified Boba Debt parts. The screw holes thing bugs me slightly but I couldn't figure out a way to safely re-drill them at the time because the metal they are cast from is rather soft (but at least they're metal.). The vertical bracket originally attached directly to the horizontal. I added the rectangular spacer in between. I had russrep fabricate it for me to my drawing (he also made the round spacers for me and a blank billet from which I made the bull barrell myself).

I don't want to get off topic but if you want I can post some more "in progress" pics showing how I modified the scope bracket, et al.

Dave C

P.S. Thanks to Wackychimp for hosting the pics.
 
Originally posted by dcarty@Nov 3 2005, 04:00 PM
I don't want to get off topic but if you want I can post some more "in progress" pics showing how I modified the scope bracket, et al.
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Dave,

As a rule, I believe you can't post enough pics of anything on this forum. you never know when one might inspire someone to build or improve their own replica or lead to a breakthrough in the discovery of a part or its construction. So post away. :)

Here's a little nugget I found yesterday:

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Chris: please check eBay and do us proud like last time. ;)

- Gabe
 
OK, well, if no one objects here are some of the pics I took while I was working on my Han Hero blaster. I got it off eBay about 3 years ago for Christmas. It arrived as a metallic blaster shaped lump covered in thick paint. After I stripped it down I got to work to try and re-engineer how things went together and make them a little sturdier. A picture's worth a thousand words so here we go:

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I cut a slightly offset rectangular hole into the scope cradle to insert the vertical bracket. I drilled two holes through the side of the vertical bracket and into the cradle and inserted brass pins into them to help lock the mount in place. I glued everything together with JB weld then ground down the top of the vertical bracket with a drum sander in my Foredom tool.
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I also reshaped the mounting rings (they were too thick) and added more accurate screws. Here they are roughed before I went at them with some files:
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Here's the nearly finished mount. The vertical bracket is filleted in with JB weld. You can see how it's all held together with a machine screw from the inside:
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Bull Barrell drilled and tapped ready with some handy allthread:
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I tried to hollow out the solid end of the muzzle with a file as best I could (wish I could have machined this):
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Here's everything in place before my second attempt at painting it:
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I also added the little dimple on the bottom of the magazine, re-shaped the grip and the trigger (which I'm rather proud of). You can see how the previous owner attempted to assemble things and why it took a bit of re-thinking to get things to go together properly:
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That's the Cliff notes version of the story. Hope this gives you an idea of the steps I went through. I'm sincerely hoping that next year I can begin another Hero based off a real Mauser (with a nice, new replica MG-81 muzzle :) ).

Mega-thanks to Wackychimp.

Cheers,

Dave C
 
Originally posted by Corellianexports@Nov 29 2005, 01:07 PM
Gabe,
How thick do you think that "T" mount is? 3/8"?
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I modeled mine at 1/4", but it could be as much as 5/16". 3/8" looks too thick.

I've got the "Sitting Target" DVD and an original 35 mm teaser trailer reel coming from eBay this week, so I hope one or both of them will contain some useful information. I'm not done with this design yet - not by a long shot. :D

- Gabe
 
Ok, so far no jackpot. I received my bootleg UK DVD of "Sitting Target" today and thankfully it played without a hitch on my PC's combo drive. The quality, however, is extremely poor, due to the age and quality of the VHS tape it was digitized from. Whether or not the PAL format of the tape further degrades the image is something I'm not qualified to answer.

This was an unbelievably madenning, frustrating, and exasperating experience... :cry Why? Well, the gun and scope appear in a good DOZEN SCENES throughout the movie, and in EXTREME CLOSE-UP, too... However, aside from the poor image quality, the .$#%$*&. lighting and angle whenever they're shown is positively DISMAL.. The scope bracket is ALWAYS in shadow, or shown from the side we're already familiar with. It's like the entire time I was being taunted and teased, with no payoff. I'm now suffering from the equivalent of freeze-frame blue balls. :p

But I'd rather show you the "best" shots and let you judge for yourself. Thanks in advance to Whackychimp for hosting. :D :thumbsup

First, the DVD itself:

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The dubber managed to create 18 navigable chapters, which at least helped me time-index the crucial prop scenes.

The first time the scope is seen, Oliver Reed's character is casing his target without his 9mm Mauser C-96 model 712 select-fire pistol w/detachable shoulder stock and 20 round clip. But he's gripping the entire vertical bracket in his hand from the moment he takes it out of his overcoat to the scene break:

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Here is the exact type of Mauser Reed uses throughout the film:

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In a later scene, Reed is sitting in the back of a van, smoking and cleaning the oil off the Mauser, bracket, and scope. The damn rag obscures most of the detail, and due to the bumpy ride and his rapid hand movements, not a single frame was sharp. This really was the best pause frame I could save. In it, you see the scope's rear bell to the right, barrel facing the windshield, and just above Reed's hand you can see the front and rear vertical bracket arms and cradle:

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Here, in the first of two "assembly" scenes (I was keeping my fingers crossed for just one, and there were two. :) ), Reed slides the vertical bracket over the dovetail block from the rear to the front, then holds the scope in place with his left hand while tightening down the thumb screw with his right. You can see that the front of the dovetail block is protruding in front of the vertical bracket, not aligned with it, as seen in the B&W publicity still:

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A second later:

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Two seconds later:

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Three seconds later:

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In the two shots above, Reed's left thumb is obscuring the "hole" between the front and rear arms of the vertical bracket.

In the second "assembly" scene, had it not been for the gorram darkness, one COULD have seen details of the inside of the vertical bracket where it attaches to the dovetail block, but it's still shown from the top, so no underside details of the cradle... :angry

Here's probably the sharpest and cleanest shot of the bracket in the movie, near the very end, but as you can see, the angle and shadows obscure any useful detail in the transition between the cradle and vertical bracket:

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Finally, in this scene, we see the familiar pose of Reed and Ian McShane, captured by a still photographer during one of the takes:

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I'll be watching the movie again tomorrow without frame-by-frame jogging to see if somehow I can glean any useful details, but I'm not optimistic. The only hope I have at this time is the 35 mm teaser reel that I'm expecting in the mail. If I find anything promising on it, I'll take it to a photo store and see if they can magnify and digitize the frame(s), and manipulate the contrast to yield more details.

Ideally, if I stumble across a full reel of this film, I'll try and purchase it. If anyone can help with leads, I'd appreciate it. Here's the IMDB link:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069273/

I already e-mailed the person who posted the film's synopsis. No response yet.

If anyone thinks they can milk more details out of this DVD, by all means please let me know and I'll mail you a copy. I've never burned an entire film to DVD before, but I could do that too if anyone wants a copy and is willing to pay for the DVD-R & S&H. Please e-mail me at proprunner@aol.com - no PMs on this request, please.

- Gabe
 
Hey Gabe,
I've tried cleaning up the pics a little. Unfortunately, the source isn't all that good, so this is the best I could do:

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Thanks to WC for hosting

-Fred
 
Awww... :) Fred, you're a pal - thanks for trying.

Hope it didn't take you too much time, because tomorrow I'm picking up a CD-ROM with 20 super-hi-res scans of 40 frames of film from the "Sitting Target" 35mm teaser reel I bought off a guy on eBay. Each uncompressed JPEG file will be approx. 17 MB...

Yes - I went through the reel frame by frame with a loupe and a light box, spent 2 days narrowing down the best shots of the gun & bracket (it was CHOCK FULL OF THEM...), and after a little guilty hesitation, I took scissors to the reel and cut out all the marked frames, mounting them in slide holders, and sending them off for digitizing.

Expect some amazing close-ups of the braket tomorrow - people, you WILL be amazed. :D

- Gabe
 
Originally posted by Prop Runner@Dec 13 2005, 10:35 PM
Awww... :)  Fred, you're a pal - thanks for trying.

Hope it didn't take you too much time, because tomorrow I'm picking up a CD-ROM with 20 super-hi-res scans of 40 frames of film from the "Sitting Target" 35mm teaser reel I bought off a guy on eBay.  Each uncompressed JPEG file will be approx. 17 MB...

Yes - I went through the reel frame by frame with a loupe and a light box, spent 2 days narrowing down the best shots of the gun & bracket (it was CHOCK FULL OF THEM...), and after a little guilty hesitation, I took scissors to the reel and cut out all the marked frames, mounting them in slide holders, and sending them off for digitizing.

Expect some amazing close-ups of the braket tomorrow - people, you WILL be amazed. :D

- Gabe
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Just send them my way Gabe. I'll lighten them up and post them. :D

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Originally posted by Prop Runner@Dec 14 2005, 02:35 AM
Awww... :)  Fred, you're a pal - thanks for trying.

Hope it didn't take you too much time, because tomorrow I'm picking up a CD-ROM with 20 super-hi-res scans of 40 frames of film from the "Sitting Target" 35mm teaser reel I bought off a guy on eBay.  Each uncompressed JPEG file will be approx. 17 MB...

Yes - I went through the reel frame by frame with a loupe and a light box, spent 2 days narrowing down the best shots of the gun & bracket (it was CHOCK FULL OF THEM...), and after a little guilty hesitation, I took scissors to the reel and cut out all the marked frames, mounting them in slide holders, and sending them off for digitizing.

Expect some amazing close-ups of the braket tomorrow - people, you WILL be amazed. :D

- Gabe
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Don't mention it, Gabe. Though to be honest, I would have been surprised if you didn't come up with hi-res pics the day after I tried to fix up the pics :lol.

Can't wait to see the pics you got :D.

-Fred
 
Gabe,
You're definitely a Hero Blaster maniac.

The screen caps in that film remind me a lot of ANH. Because the blaster is black and there are shadows in all the scenes where it is shown, it's next to impossible to see any thing.

I'm beginning to wonder if there's any knurling on that center knob. In one or two of the screen caps, it looks like it might be there.

Keep up the good work.
 
Pay dirt, guys. :D

Courtesy of a 33-year-old 35 mm teaser trailer reel (note the soundtrack lines on the left):

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And the best one by far:

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Still can't tell if there's a damn knurl or not. :cry

I have more, but in the spirit of the teaser real, this post is just a tease... :D

Seriously, though - there are more frames that need to be enhanced for contrast and detail definition, and Brother Brinn here has graciously volunteered to give it a shot, so I'll be forwarding the relevant master files to him and keep my fingers crossed. Hopefully those enhancements will yield evidence of knurling (or lack thereof) and what the HECK is going on at the bottom of the cradle where it meets the vertical bracket... I'll also post a couple more raw shots tomorrow and if I have time, updated 3D CAD renders based on what I'm seeing here...

I'm late for a holiday party, so discuss until I get back. :)

- Gabe
 
Great work guys, :thumbsup

the one thing that always messed me up with the Star Wars pistols is that being a gun nut i know that you would not mount a scope on the right side of a pistol and shoot it right handed.

but i am sure they did it so the pistols would fit in a holster nice. :)

in this case they just reversed the mount.and moved it back then used the bar to keep from drilling into the trigger group.

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Great images from good source material will definitely help w/ this project.

Q: how is the film itself?

I like The Naked Runner before the connection was made: the low lighting; plot; Sinatra.; and the whole Cold War thing.

Just wondering how this film is, content-wise?
 
Originally posted by mgoob@Dec 18 2005, 09:57 AM
Great images from good source material will definitely help w/ this project.

Q: how is the film itself?

I like The Naked Runner before the connection was made: the low lighting; plot; Sinatra.; and the whole Cold War thing.

Just wondering how this film is, content-wise?
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Oliver Reed portrays a criminal who breaks out of jail and sets out to kill his cheating wife. He's consumed with revenge, and is blind to the doublecrossing and plotting by his own escape partner, played by Ian McShane. For its day, a very violent and brutal film. Wouldn't be surprised if Quentin Tarantino was inspired by it. For some insightful viewer reviews, go here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069273/usercomments

The Mauser and scope are front and center throughout the entire movie, and there are plenty of great scenes on the bootleg DVD from which I could have gotten excellent captures of the scope bracket from various angles had the dubing quality been better. But alas, nobody is yet selling the entire film on reel yet, so I'll stay on the lookout, although I'm not optimistic it will become available. It would also be a shame to cut up, considering so few copies of the film are probably left...

Hope to post more close-up shots of the bracket after Brinn takes a whack at them. :)

- Gabe
 
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